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Oil prices could drop to $50 - Credit Suisse


:lol: :lol:


If Russia is sending attack helicopters to Syria, should US arm rebels ?


Look, folks


If America destabilizing Russian "vital interest" .. Syria

If America would arm Wahhabi & Sallafi gangs in Syria

if so

Russia could arm the Shia uprising in Saudi Arabia .. or .. the Yemeni opposition fighting Saudi and America

if so

Oil price would not go to 50 $/b .. but .. to 200 $/b

who benefits ? ?

the Oil companies

so

put 2 + 2 together

no matter what

Saudi Arabia on the way out

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United States and European Union must be cautious about just where the Saudis are leading them.


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Saudi Arabia does not have the ability to destroy Iran. Its lavishly funded military is mainly for show and its effort to get Iraq to do the job back in the eighties failed badly. Israel can hit Iranian targets repeatedly but not with devastating effect. The US of course can but is balking at the undertaking and in any case might not want to create more instability in the region.

Saudi Arabia, then, will likely seek a three-tiered policy of protracted weakening of Iran. First, Iran will be hit by continuing sanctions, by lower oil prices from boosts in Saudi production, and by currency manipulation that makes Iranian imports all the more costly. Second, Iran will continue to be struck by assassinations and bombings and perhaps by periodic air strikes by Israel and the US - perhaps with token participation by planes from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states.

Third, Iran will endure insurgent movements, supported from without, aimed at drawing off resources and threatening the territorial integrity of the country. Specifically, the Kurds in the northwest, the Baluchs in the southeast, and the Arabs in the western province of Khuzestan will be encouraged to resist, rebel, and otherwise oppose the regime and its IRGC enforcers.

Such efforts have been tried before, from Wilhelm Wassmuss's efforts to lead pro-German tribal revolts during World War I to Saddam's efforts to bring the Khuzestani Arabs to the Arab side. None has met with great success.

Again, the Saudis are unable to destroy Iran, nor can they get anyone to do it for them. Protracted weakening of Iran is, however, nearer to its reach and it can make Saudi Arabia the only significant power in the Gulf - one that other Gulf states will fall in line with even more readily than they are today.

The strategy, like any such effort in world affairs, has problems. First, low oil prices from increased Saudi output hurt not only Iran but all oil producers. This is especially true of Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states, which have doled out immense amounts of oil revenue to keep their populaces content. Generous disbursements of oil revenues constitute a principal basis of state legitimacy, and cutting back on state largesse is not without risks.

Second, states do not always use new power and hegemony wisely. All too often they act foolishly, arrogantly, and belligerently - to the dismay of other states in and out of the region. Saudi Arabia lording over the Gulf might become the newest case in point.

Third, encouraging terrorism and insurgency inside Iran could of course lead to Iranian repayments-in-kind inside Sunni states. All of them have appreciable Shi'ite population; some have Shi'ite majorities. In all cases, the Shi'ites are increasingly restive over lower status and limited opportunities. Minorities on both sides of the conflict may become problematic.

Curiously, Saudi oil reserves are concentrated in a Shi'ite region and Iran's are in an Arab region. Surely, the gods of geology and geopolitics have a sense of mischief.

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The Truth Behind Saudi Arabia’s Fear of a Nuclear Iran


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The Truth Behind Saudi Arabia’s Fear of a Nuclear Iran

Wednesday, June 20, 2012


Hassan Ahmadian

Expert of the Center for Strategic Research, Tehran

In a recent interview with the Israeli daily, Haaretz, Dennis Ross, a senior advisor to the United States President Barack Obama in Middle East affairs, said that in a visit to Saudi Arabia’s capital, Riyadh, in early 2009, he had been told by the Saudi King Abdullah that if Iran becomes a nuclear state, Saudi Arabia will rapidly develop its own nuclear bomb. More reports had been also published as earlier as February 2007, following King Abdullah’s meeting with the then Russian President Vladimir Putin which brought similar quotes from the Saudi king. Although those reports were never officially confirmed, Ross’ remarks prove beyond any doubt that such allegations which are made by Saudi Arabia from time to time should be taken quite seriously.


However, a logical question which may preoccupy a Middle East researcher’s mind here is: why Saudi Arabia is not as afraid of Israel’s nuclear arsenal as it is of a nuclear Iran? It is quite clear that Israel developed nuclear weapons when it was considered the archenemy of Arab countries in the Middle East. Three years later, in 1967, Israeli forces occupied vast pieces of land which belonged to their neighboring Arab countries, including two Saudi islands of Sanafir and Tiran. However, Saudi Arabia has never made any effort or even posed any threat about developing nuclear weapons and has never attempted to create nuclear balance with Israel. So, why Saudi Arabia is so fearful of a nuclear Iran? Can King Abdullah’s threat be taken as a serious omen of a looming nuclear race in the Middle East?

Saudi Arabia apparently looks upon Iran from the standpoint of regional rivalries and believes that nuclearization of Iran will be a dangerous turn of events for its regional calculations and relations. “Tension in return for pressure” is perhaps a good interpretation for Saudi Arabia’s anti-Iran moves and policies. In other words, whenever Saudi Arabia comes under mounting domestic, regional and/or international pressures, it tries to escalate tension with the Islamic Republic of Iran in order to distract attention from those pressures. In this way, Riyadh also tries to come up with a framework within which it would be able to cooperate with the source of pressure (both internal and external) by claiming that it is facing an alleged foreign risk (from Iran). Another point is the fact that conflict with the Islamic Republic of Iran can boost a sense of national identity in Saudi Arabia. This issue will be discussed in more detail below.

Saudi Arabia launched its wave of Iranophobia just at a time that following 9/11 terror attacks in the United States, it was under increasing pressure from the West and was doing its best to maintain relations and remain in alliance with the West. It was more so following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003. As the tension between Iran and the West built up, Riyadh also tried to escalate tension with Tehran. In fact, apart from traditional rivalry with Iran, Saudi Arabia has tried in this period to put more stress on the alleged threat of a nuclear Iran to regional and international peace and security and highlight that threat in the mind of Western states. In this way, Riyadh is trying to shift the West’s focus from fighting terrorism as well as role of Saudi Arabian terrorists in anti-American and anti-West activities both in the mass media and at official level among the states. As a result, Saudi Arabia has pursued a policy of confrontation with Iran in the aforesaid period at two bilateral and multilateral levels [through the (Persian) Gulf Cooperation Council, the Arab League, and the United Nations]. The assassination of the former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri, who also held Saudi citizenship, was a turning point in the confrontation between Saudi Arabia and Iran. As a result of that assassination, pressures on Iran's close ally in the Levant, namely Syria, soared so high that Damascus was finally forced to withdraw its forces from Lebanon, after they had been there for three decades. Pressures were also mounting on Hamas and the Lebanese Hezbollah as a result of efforts made by Saudi Arabia and its regional allies. All those efforts represented Saudi Arabia’s threat-based approach to Iran. In fact, Riyadh was moving in line with Washington’s policy to “cut Iran's regional wings first.” That policy directly sought military engagement with Iran after its close regional allies were routed out.

As a result of that policy, Saudi Arabia kept complete lull throughout two regional wars which were launched by Israel respectively against Lebanon in 2006 and against Gaza in 2008-09, with the direct goal of weakening the anti-Israeli resistance front. In doing so, Saudi Arabia was actually fulfilling its mission for separating Syria from Iran. They also tried to encourage Syria distance from Iran by making efforts to exonerate Damascus of its charges in Hariri’s assassination case. That policy aimed to first point an incriminating finger at the Lebanese Hezbollah after exonerating Syria, in order to kick off the subsequent process of increasing differences between Tehran and Damascus. A joint visit to Lebanese capital, Beirut, by the Saudi King Abdullah and Syria’s President Bashar Assad was, in fact, the outset of that process. Of course, Syria’s diplomatic prowess caused the plan to fail because after reaping the fruit of the visit (as envisaged by Saudi Arabia and the West), Syria refrained from distancing its position from Iran and letting a rift to be created between two main pillars of the resistance front.

Although increasing tension with Iran using the nuclear case as pretext has been a focus of attention for Riyadh since many years ago, it has gained even more importance after the recent spate of democracy seeking uprisings in the region. The wave of popular uprisings in Arab countries has put tremendous pressure on Saudi Arabia, like other Arab states, and has increased people’s expectations both inside and around the kingdom. Therefore, Riyadh has felt an urging need to reduce the focus on regional popular uprisings both among regional nations and Western states. As a result, Saudi Arabia has been trying to increase tensions with Iran and this has coincided with escalating pressures from the West over Iran's nuclear energy program, which have played into the hands of Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia used the alleged Iran threat in Bahrain – which was not substantiated even by the closest allies of Saudi Arabia in the (Persian) Gulf Cooperation Council – to suppress Bahraini people’s uprising by deploying the Peninsula Shield Force, which had been originally established to head off foreign threat against member countries. In the meantime, regional media affiliated to Saudi Arabia never ceased their hype about Iran threat and even carried reports about Iran's military moves to topple Bahrain’s Al Khalifa regime.

Apart from adopting a policy of escalating tension with Iran in order to foil or reduce domestic and foreign pressures, tension and confrontation with Iran is a matter of identity for Saudi Arabia. This means Riyadh has been regularly facing fundamental problems in its nation-building drive because sub-national (tribal) and transnational (Islamic and Arab) identities have been constantly more powerful in this country than a national identity. Therefore, Riyadh is trying to take advantage of a foreign enemy in order to unify the nation and strengthen the country’s sense of national identity around the pivot of Al Saud family. Although some analysts maintain that the Islamic identity can work as a good foundation for legitimacy of the government in Riyadh, such a transnational legitimacy cannot be necessarily a useful means of consolidating domestic situation in the country. This consideration about the Islamic identity has been even more pronounced in the period of popular uprisings in the Arab world. The Saudi nation has been constantly divided into opponents and proponents of developments in the Arab world and an Islamic identity has not been a good foundation for strengthening national spirit of Saudi Arabia’s people. In the meantime, anti-Iranian and anti-Shia propaganda by Riyadh (in spite of the presence of a big Shia minority in the country) has proven capable of bolstering nationalistic feelings and the national spirit of the Saudi nation. Therefore, intensification of such conflicts and confrontation with Iran has been very important to Saudi Arabian government from this viewpoint. On the whole, allegations about Iran's threat against Bahrain or Iran's nuclear threat against the whole region are aimed to provide Saudi Arabia with a good framework to keep Saudi’s incomplete nation-building process going. In other words, nuclearization of Iran would mean more strength for an enemy around which Saudi Arabia’s new identity has taken shape. Therefore, the focus on Iran should increase as Saudi Arabia tries to proceed with its nation-building effort.

There are many reasons why Saudi Arabia is not afraid of Israel’s nuclear bomb as much as it is scared of the nuclear Iran and why, instead of raising tension with Iran, it does not take advantage of tension with Israel to boost the country’s sense of national identity. In short, Israel has never been considered a major rival in Saudi Arabia’s regional policies. Secondly, when it comes to ideology, the tension between Saudi Salafi tendencies and Shiism is much more fundamental and serious than the tension between Salafis and Jews (who are at least considered People of the Book by Salafis). Thirdly, Saudi Arabia’s early fears of a nuclear Israel have gradually given way to a kind of imposed coexistence between Israel and regional Arab states, including Saudi Arabia. On the other hand, after Egypt signed the peace accord with Israel, thus, pushing the issue of Palestine out of the focus, tensions related to the conflict between Arab identity and Israel were lowered to a minimum. At the same time, however, Iran was a better object of hate because of the triumph of the Islamic Revolution in the country followed by the eight-year war with Iraq. Last but not least, Saudi Arabia and Israel are both among allies of Washington and the West in this sensitive region while Iran is at loggerheads with the West and does not accept the West’s influence in the region. This enables the Saudis to put pressure on Israel through Western channels, but their channels for diplomatic pressure on Iran, if any, are very limited. As a result, tension is the best option for Riyadh when it wants to take domestic and regional advantage of its relationship with Iran. The only concern of Saudi Arabia is how to manage that tension in view of conditions of time and place.

Creation and intensification of tension with Iran is usually put on Saudi Arabia’s political agenda every time that Riyadh feels the burden of domestic or foreign pressures. By using tensions with Iran, Saudi Arabian officials want to reduce focus on many problems inside the kingdom, on the one hand, while undermining Iran's position in regional rivalries by increasing pressures on Tehran, on the other hand. As a result, following 9/11 terror attacks in the United States, when Saudi Arabia came under heavy pressures from Western countries followed by domestic pressures, Riyadh moved to increase tension with Tehran. The subsequent occupation of Iraq and gradual increase of Iran's political clout in its western neighbor was another factor which helped to further raise tension between Tehran and Riyadh. During political crises in Lebanon and Gaza as well as in the course of popular uprisings in the Arab world, Saudi Arabia continued its policy of increasing unilateral and multilateral tension with Iran in order to decrease the pressure it felt on its shoulders. At present, tension with Iran is pursued through Tehran’s nuclear energy program. This new ground for tension is not only a result of traditional rivalry between Saudi Arabia and Iran, but is also crucial to help to strengthen a sense of national identity inside Saudi Arabia.

It follows from the above facts, that Saudi Arabia’s adversity to Iran's nuclear energy program is part and parcel of its identity-boosting conflict with Iran and Shiism in general. Attention to this point will make it easier to forecast future outlook of anti-Iranian actions of Saudi Arabia. Under new conditions in the Middle East, domestic and foreign pressures on conservative Arab monarchies which see themselves faced with popular uprisings are incessantly on the rise. Saudi Arabia is at loggerheads with democratic changes in the Middle East and, naturally, will be under more serious pressure. Internal and external pressures are sure to keep mounting on Saudi Arabia if the king dies and the conservative wing of the Saudi regime gains more power. If that happens, Riyadh will continue its past policy by using tension with Iran – in addition to other means – to overcome pressures and also to boost the sense of national identity in Saudi Arabia around the pivot of Al Saud family. Consequently, Saudi Arabia is actually using tension over Iran's nuclear program as a means of evading internal and external pressures and also to boost the country’s sense of national identity around the pivot of Al Saud family.

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This is from Mossad News Network - BullShit departement


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King Abdullah names Prince Bandar, director general of the Saudi Intelligence Agency, on top of his post as secretary-general of the National Security Council

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Last week, King Abdullah named Bandar, 62, director general of the Saudi Intelligence Agency, on top of his post as secretary-general of the National Security Council, which he has held since 2005.

Bandar's appointment to the Saudis' most important security post is no coincidence. For one thing, he's very well connected to the kingdom's leaders. His wife Haifa was the daughter of King Faisal, who was assassinated in 1975. Her brother Turki al-Faisal once headed Saudi intelligence, and another brother, Mohammed al-Faisal, is one of the kingdom's richest men.

But it seems the main reason for his appointment now is that Saudi Arabia is preparing for the next stage in Syria, after President Bashar Assad leaves the political stage one way or another and Syria becomes a battleground for influence.

An intense campaign is under way over this inheritance, with the United States, European Union and Russia taking part. But the ramifications of Assad's fall on Iran and Hezbollah - and Iraq - are more important. And when Egypt is hobbling in its effort to establish its "Second Republic" and the Arab League is paralyzed, Saudi Arabia is left to draw up the Middle East's new map.

The view from D.C.

From Washington's perspective, Bandar's appointment is important news. Sure, his wife was investigated by Congress a decade ago about her connections to Al-Qaida activists. But Bandar is considered the CIA's man in Riyadh. He's not just a rugby fan and man-about-town - he's known as a can-do person who makes quick decisions and doesn't spare resources to achieve his objectives.

When there was a need to transfer money to the Nicaraguan rebels in the 1980s, Bandar dealt with the Saudi "grants" requested by the White House. He also arranged things when Saudi Arabia was asked to help fund the mujahideen's battles in Afghanistan against the Soviets.

Bandar is a member of the part of the royal family that opposes the revolutions in the Arab states; they see the Muslim Brotherhood's rise no less of a threat than Iran's influence in the region.

He helped King Abdullah (when the latter was still crown prince ) put together the Saudi peace plan - later the Arab Peace Initiative - to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And he fashioned the Saudis' tough stance against Syria and Hezbollah after the assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri in 2005. A few years later, he suggested that the king change course and reconcile with Syria in an effort to cool relations between Damascus and Tehran.

From Bahrain to Tahrir Square

When the revolutions broke out, Bandar supported sending troops to the small kingdom of Bahrain next door to quell the Shi'ite revolt, which Saudi Arabia perceived as Iranian intervention in the Gulf states' affairs. Saudi Arabia also moved fast to support the new regime in Cairo, depositing more than $3 billion as a guarantee at the Egyptian central bank.

Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi knows well that this aid doesn't stem from Saudi Arabia's great love for the Tahrir revolution, let alone for the Muslim Brotherhood. But it's meant to block Iranian efforts to gain a foothold in Egypt. As a result, when Morsi was invited to Tehran for a conference of nonaligned nations, he stopped first in Riyadh so as not to give Iran the satisfaction of being the new Egyptian president's first host.

Saudi commentators say Bandar was the one behind the decision to give money to the Syrian rebels, and even to buy weapons for them. They say the Saudi demand that Assad step down is part of Bandar's strategy, which guides the kingdom far more than the positions of the 88-year-old king, whose health is failing.

The Saudi policy on Syria is being closely coordinated with the United States; both countries (like Israel ) want to separate Iran from its most important Arab base and slow the weapons flow to Hezbollah. These goals haven't eluded Iranian eyes, so Tehran is strengthening its position in Iraq and the Kurdish zone of northern Iraq. Moreover, according to reports from the Syrian opposition, Iran is making clandestine contacts with rebel representatives in Europe.

There's no way to know what Syria will look like after Assad, or which rebel faction it pays to invest in. Saudi Arabia, as is its wont, is investing in them all. Hopefully the United States will get the payoff
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Saudi riot police fire live rounds on Shiite protesters in Qatif - reports (VIDEO, PHOTOS)


we might have a regime change in Riyadh instead of Damascus :lol:


All Oil in Shia territory .. so .. folks .. keep the tanks topped :D


Come on, Hussein Barak, drop the Sheiks, Ahmadinejat is the future (Rhubarb will be accommodated)


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Rumors have it that Prince Bandar , head of SA intelligence, was killed in a terrorist attack. The KSA is mute and no one denied the rumors.
Any comments?

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Summary:

"Saudi Arabia cancels an old fatwa that prohibits the selling of real estate to Shia's if the real estate is near large Sunni areas.

Also, the Saudi Religous Affairs Ministry has warned all mosque preachers (Imams) not to call for the destruction of Jews and Christians in Friday sermons since they are people of the book as mentioned inthe Quran. The only calls should be directed against aggressors and that generalizations of any religion is against Sharia.
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http://www.alquds.co.uk/index.asp?fname ... 07z494.htm
الكبار في المملكة والتي تقضي بعدم جواز بيع العقارات لأبناء الطائفة الشيعية الذين يمثلون 5' من عدد السكان البالغ عددهم 27 مليون نسمة.
وأصدر فرع وزارة الشؤون الإسلامية بالمنطقة الشرقية تعميماً على أئمة مساجد الشرقية بمنع تعليق فتوى عضو هيئة كبار العلماء الراحل الشيخ عبدالله بن جبرين على لوحة الإعلانات والتي تقضي بعدم جواز بيع العقارات لأبناء الشيعة.
وكان الشيخ السعودي الراحل عبدالله بن عبد الرحمن الجبرين، افتى أنه لا يجوز بيع العقارات للشيعة إذا كانت في محيط أهل السنة وفي القرى والمدن التي أهلها من السنة.
يذكر أن المسلمين الشيعة يمثلون نسبة 5' من عدد سكان السعودية البالغ 27 مليون نسمة ويتركزون في المنطقة الشرقية، الغنية بالنفط، وايضا في المدينة المنورة غرب المملكة بالإضافة إلى جنوب المملكة.
الى ذلك حذرت وزارة الشؤون الإسلامية السعودية أئمة المساجد من الدعاء 'بهلاك اليهود والنصارى' أثناء خطب الجمعة أو الصلاة.
ووجهت وزارة الشؤون الإسلامية السعودية تنبيهاً إلى أئمة المساجد وزع امس الثلاثاء بعدم الاعتداء في الدعاء أو الدعاء بأدعية 'مخالفة' لم ترد عن النبي (ص).
ووجهت الوزارة بعدم رفع الصوت في القراءة والدعاء حتى لا يؤذي الآخرين وحتى لا يحدث تداخل بين أصوات الأئمة والمصلين في المساجد المتجاورة.
وحذرت الوزارة من الدعاء بتعميم الهلاك على اليهود والنصارى، مشيرة إلى أن 'الصحيح' الدعاء على 'المعتدين' فقط وأن التعميم'لا يجوز شرعاً'.

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Media chief
You menace me
The people you say
'Cause all the crime
Wake up motherfucker
And smell the slime
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