Torchwood wrote:.
Azari, your hatred of everything British is bizarre. I mean at the height of imperial power that was understandable, but nowadays, when we have virtually no influence ???
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I do not hate everything British, Brits have lots I admire, so have the French and Spanish and Italian AND Germans
But
unfortunately
Brits same Brits as if Queen Victoria & Prince Albert around .. nothing has changed, only different tools and method used to the same end
Look, Torchi .. Spain a great nation, discovered North and South America (and Canada)
AND ? ?
Brits owned America (and Canada)
How come ? ?
Same mindset with "Malvinas"
Britain would not let go, still IMPERIAL mindset
NO, you guys not lost influence enough (yet), who is backing that idi*ot calling himself sultan of " 14th province of Iran " Bahrain ? ? .. Bahrain was leased to Brits by Iran for 99 yrs , AND ? ?
Britain same Britain as Queen Victoria .. nothing has changed .. only a dramatic devastating catastrophe would make Brits realize things have change fundamentally .. And .. That is the tragedy of Thatcher
Thatcher, instead of accepting fair wage and benefits for unions by throwing Queen Victoria mindset out of window, like Germans did 85 years ago with Kaiser, and guarantying German style prosperity (and not prosperity by milking Arab Oil money or being refuge for Russian Oligarch), instead, Thatcher crashed the unions and lost British industrial and manufacturing base at the same time .. that banking, financial, sector can and will disappear with one line (of law) that EU can introduce
If instead, she had pulled throw an economic revolution to rejuvenate Britain .. say, changing still imperial, tax laws .. if so, Britain would now be able to compete with Germany (historical British competitor) .. if (and when) London financial sector done, Britain is done
Torchwood wrote:.
As for whether Maggie was evil, she did not have compassionate beliefs (although apparently kind in private), but by their works shall ye judge them. She did her bit to liberate 300 million eastern Europeans from communist tyranny, and despite economic casualties and a rise in inequality the average Briton is undoubtedly more prosperous than he would otherwise have been. Yes, there was the sinking of the Belgrano - but it was war, the "Argies" started it after all diplomatic attempst had failed, the success of the UK task force was on knife edge. By getting rid of the ghastly military junta and their death squads the Falkland war undoubtedly saved more Argentinian lives than it cost in the long run, but it would have been too much to expect Argentina to be grateful...
She was not likeable, most of those who voted Conservative including me did so because they thought her policies were necessary, but would never have wanted to socialise with her. At the end of her rule she was showing undoubted megalomania, showing the wisdom of the American eight year term limit and the wisdom of her party dumping her. But to consign her to hell with Genghis Khan, Hitler and Stalin (and the Ayatollah Khomeini?) is not just unfair, it's weird.
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Look, Trochi .. all European nations .. Germany, France, Spain and Italy and and
all of them
they have rebooted (some a few times), last 300 years
that reboot, is like forest fire .. burns the week and the fake
but come new growth rejuvenating the forest and the nation
Most London belongs to handful blue blood riding the Arab and Russian donkey and now the Spanish and french and Greek .. Tax Free
AND
Look at Liverpool or Manchester and and
Britain situation is like a cancer patient needing radical surgery which is delayed .. like Steve Jobs
The fall, though delayed, will be like Steve Jobs, terminal
AND
Torchi
a good reading of wicket Britain : Iran and Britain in Thatcher Era
We could probably agree that Blair, along with Bush, should be hauled to the Hague and tried as war criminals, however.
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