That's a Democrat city for you.Endovelico wrote:From this side of the pond it looks like another example of excessive force being used in a situation where clearly no public person or institution was at risk. A mother of a 18 month old child was killed without any justification but the current police paranoia. I'm sure American citizens will feel now a lot more secure than before the incident...
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In all honesty where is the damning video. The video I saw she jumped a police blockade almost hitting officers and tore down the street. Now I'm not saying the shooting her was the best or only option, but she certainly put it on the table. Cars are far deadlier weapons than guns.
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Agreed.Juno wrote:Tinker, I've made this same mistake. It was a lesson to me.Enki wrote:Mr. Perfect and his Tea Party brethren have been telling us for a long time that if the electoral process doesn't go their way that they are going to start shooting people. Is this the beginning?
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That poor woman did not commit a capital offense. There was no justification for those goons to use lethal force. I hope you will join me in calling for them to be tried for murder, or at a very minimum, manslaughter. I mean, if Obama had a daughter her age, she would look like that, do you agree?
I read an article, "Militants gun mother down in front of her child.", I thought it encapsulated the disconnect perfectly.
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Maybe you can provide a link to that article as you prepare your apology.
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2nd hand info from a Secret Service vet of 10+ years...the Secret Service detail are calling the D.C. cops firing the shots "Takleberrys"...gun happy character from Police Academy movie. He said the CCTV showed she didn't "ram" the barrier by the White House, but at best bumped it. Oh, and at the second area of shooting by the Capital building she was literally already boxed in as barriers were up on both ends, so they had no need to keep shooting. Kind of restores my sense of sanity to know there are misgivings about this in at least the Secret Service.
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I agree.cincinnatus wrote:2nd hand info from a Secret Service vet of 10+ years...the Secret Service detail are calling the D.C. cops firing the shots "Takleberrys"...gun happy character from Police Academy movie. He said the CCTV showed she didn't "ram" the barrier by the White House, but at best bumped it. Oh, and at the second area of shooting by the Capital building she was literally already boxed in as barriers were up on both ends, so they had no need to keep shooting. Kind of restores my sense of sanity to know there are misgivings about this in at least the Secret Service.
It's funny because having seen how the DC police handle protests, it's so much less militant and insane than the NYPD, which makes the LAPD look like a bastion of restraint by comparison. I don't know why they went crazy that time.
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They were afraid.Enki wrote:I agree.cincinnatus wrote:2nd hand info from a Secret Service vet of 10+ years...the Secret Service detail are calling the D.C. cops firing the shots "Takleberrys"...gun happy character from Police Academy movie. He said the CCTV showed she didn't "ram" the barrier by the White House, but at best bumped it. Oh, and at the second area of shooting by the Capital building she was literally already boxed in as barriers were up on both ends, so they had no need to keep shooting. Kind of restores my sense of sanity to know there are misgivings about this in at least the Secret Service.
It's funny because having seen how the DC police handle protests, it's so much less militant and insane than the NYPD, which makes the LAPD look like a bastion of restraint by comparison. I don't know why they went crazy that time.
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It's interesting that a thread that started out impugning myself and the Teabaggers in murder is actually now turning into a Teabagger anti gubmint thread. Life is full of irony.
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Looks like maybe not.Juno wrote:I think he's embarrassed.
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