Comment from F: God willing those roses will be accepted as red even if they are in fact yellow...Simple Minded wrote:IMSMO, one of the most entertaining aspects of reading posts is:
original poster A: roses are red.
response from B: you're an extremist!
response from C: not all roses!
response from D: racist!
response from E: no way! Ford trucks are much better than Chevy trucks!
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Fixed.Simple Minded wrote:IMSMO, one of the most entertaining aspects of reading posts is:
original poster A: Roses are red.
response from B: You're a leftist! Capitalism and Jesus forever!
response from C: That's simplistic and self-serving.
response from D: You are all racists!
response from E: Persia has the best roses!
response from F: <posts picture of beautiful Asian woman named Rose Something>
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YMix wrote:Fixed.Simple Minded wrote:IMSMO, one of the most entertaining aspects of reading posts is:
original poster A: Roses are red.
response from B: You're a leftist! Capitalism and Jesus forever!
response from C: That's simplistic and self-serving.
response from D: You are all racists!
response from E: Persia has the best roses!
response from F: <posts picture of beautiful Asian woman named Rose Something>
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response from G: are roses and daffodils that same flower?
response from H: red states roses are red, blue state roses are blue
response from I: Merikan roses suck! Yurp roses are tulips!
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Response from J:
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XD.......'>........
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You Gotta Stop & Eat the Roses ;-) Also violets & marigolds.
Thank You VERY Much for your post, LzzrdGrrl,Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:Response from J:
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Response from K...
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Marigolds* are yellow,
And edible too..
And what we really need is Man in the Moon Marigolds* grown in greenhouses on/in the Moon by a sustainable Colony..
*Edible Calendula Marigolds...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendula_officinalis#UsesPot marigold florets are considered edible. They are often used to add color to salads, or added to dishes as a garnish and in lieu of saffron. The leaves are edible but are often not palatable. They have a history of use as a potherb and in salads.
Flowers were used in ancient Greek, Roman, Middle Eastern and Indian cultures as a medicinal herb as well as a dye for fabrics, foods and cosmetics.[3] Many of these uses persist today. They are also used to make oil that protects the skin.
Roses and Violets are edible too.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible_flowers
Which May Be why the Far Side Bull Guru said...
"You gotta stop and eat the roses"
http://flavorsofthesun.blogspot.com/201 ... roses.html
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I hope whatever happened to Ibrahim, he is well and enjoying life.
On the issue of trolls- this place has had exactly one: farcus.
The rest of us probably have an annoying habit or two but having strong opinions and releasing steam on a message board (with little consequence) does not make a troll. Some of the "fights" I've seen elsewhere make us downright quotidian and civil.
EDIT: though I hope Ibrahim does indeed show up again- I've got a list of imprecations and a whole bunch of grandstanding that needs to be done.
On the issue of trolls- this place has had exactly one: farcus.
The rest of us probably have an annoying habit or two but having strong opinions and releasing steam on a message board (with little consequence) does not make a troll. Some of the "fights" I've seen elsewhere make us downright quotidian and civil.
EDIT: though I hope Ibrahim does indeed show up again- I've got a list of imprecations and a whole bunch of grandstanding that needs to be done.
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:.
I hope whatever happened to Ibrahim, he is well and enjoying life.
On the issue of trolls- this place has had exactly one: farcus.
The rest of us probably have an annoying habit or two but having strong opinions and releasing steam on a message board (with little consequence) does not make a troll. Some of the "fights" I've seen elsewhere make us downright quotidian and civil.
EDIT: though I hope Ibrahim does indeed show up again- I've got a list of imprecations and a whole bunch of grandstanding that needs to be done.
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miss Ibrahim too
never understood why you guys bugging him .. he never identified himself, contrary to Azari, with East, a mistake as Erdagon now discovering
He would be ideal person now to comment of Ukraine, next door, coming back to mother Russia as it should
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I talked to Ibrahim about that right before he left.
I think this has some insight.
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I think this has some insight.
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Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
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we all need break of internutz argumentering from time to time.
i agree with nap that the only outright troll was the squiggly one, being pig headed isnt the same thing.
i agree with nap that the only outright troll was the squiggly one, being pig headed isnt the same thing.
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Mr. Perfect and I have definitely gone full troll on one other from time to time.noddy wrote:we all need break of internutz argumentering from time to time.
i agree with nap that the only outright troll was the squiggly one, being pig headed isnt the same thing.
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
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anybody seen Mr. Perfect lately ? ?Enki wrote:
Mr. Perfect and I have definitely gone full troll on one other from time to time.
would hate see MP goin Ibrahim way
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I know from PM's that Marcus was deliberately trolling Ibrahim. Now both have quit.
When members just want to argue, this board is screwed. There are no idiots here. I know some folks on the internet are paid shills, and if I was offered one of those jobs I would probably take it but here in this itty bitty pond? Better to trade sources and take them to Reddit or another significant audience.
When members just want to argue, this board is screwed. There are no idiots here. I know some folks on the internet are paid shills, and if I was offered one of those jobs I would probably take it but here in this itty bitty pond? Better to trade sources and take them to Reddit or another significant audience.
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Trolls are tedious.Nonc Hilaire wrote:I know from PM's that Marcus was deliberately trolling Ibrahim. Now both have quit.
When members just want to argue, this board is screwed. There are no idiots here. I know some folks on the internet are paid shills, and if I was offered one of those jobs I would probably take it but here in this itty bitty pond? Better to trade sources and take them to Reddit or another significant audience.
Given the infinite opportunities to bloviate elsewhere on the internet, the mods would like to keep this small oasis troll free.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
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But then you would have to define troll. Which basically to me is someone that says as little as possible while throwing verbal hand grenades into a forums then stepping back and watching the carnage unfold.Typhoon wrote:Trolls are tedious.Nonc Hilaire wrote:I know from PM's that Marcus was deliberately trolling Ibrahim. Now both have quit.
When members just want to argue, this board is screwed. There are no idiots here. I know some folks on the internet are paid shills, and if I was offered one of those jobs I would probably take it but here in this itty bitty pond? Better to trade sources and take them to Reddit or another significant audience.
Given the infinite opportunities to bloviate on the internet, the mods would like to keep this small oasis troll free.
All too often however someone trying to get people to think about things differently gets called a troll when in fact they are just the opposite..
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Rather than attempt to define something as nebulous as an internet troll, given the wide variety of types,Doc wrote:But then you would have to define troll. Which basically to me is someone that says as little as possible while throwing verbal hand grenades into a forums then stepping back and watching the carnage unfold.Typhoon wrote:Trolls are tedious.Nonc Hilaire wrote:I know from PM's that Marcus was deliberately trolling Ibrahim. Now both have quit.
When members just want to argue, this board is screwed. There are no idiots here. I know some folks on the internet are paid shills, and if I was offered one of those jobs I would probably take it but here in this itty bitty pond? Better to trade sources and take them to Reddit or another significant audience.
Given the infinite opportunities to bloviate on the internet, the mods would like to keep this small oasis troll free.
All too often however someone trying to get people to think about things differently gets called a troll when in fact they are just the opposite..
I'll paraphrase your former Supreme Court Associate Justice, Stewart Potter:
Internet trolling is hard to define, but I know it when I see it.
While the accusation of trolling is often used to stifle a particular point of view, I think this forum tolerates a wide range of often conflicting views.
Only two former posters have been banned in the history of this board:
one for being obnoxious crazy,
the other for obsessive-compulsive targeting a specific group with hate speech.
This mod would like nothing more than to have not have to moderate. So everyone, help keep him and his fellow mod gainfully underemployed: the Simple Forum Rules
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Three year old identical twins who live in the same house argue.
The interesting question, IMSMO, is why would any adult expect another adult, to agree with them more than say 5-20% of the time on even the most common of human experiences?
Even less so with adults who are from different locations and cultures, who practice different religions, who speak different languages.......
even less so today with modern IT technology and infinite data available to more people than ever...... cherry picking a perspective has never been easier!
A mystery of the mind?
The interesting question, IMSMO, is why would any adult expect another adult, to agree with them more than say 5-20% of the time on even the most common of human experiences?
Even less so with adults who are from different locations and cultures, who practice different religions, who speak different languages.......
even less so today with modern IT technology and infinite data available to more people than ever...... cherry picking a perspective has never been easier!
A mystery of the mind?
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That's not quite accurate, Nonc, here's the actual PM to which you refer:Nonc Hilaire wrote:I know from PM's that Marcus was deliberately trolling Ibrahim. . .
Marcus wrote:
Don't take my replies to Ib too seriously . . for the most part I'm simply curious about how far he will go to have the last word.
Trolling? Maybe, maybe not. I find xenophobic closed-mindedness a genuine curiosity. All of us are opinionated . . that's fine, but when someone is so opinionated as to rudely exclude all possibility of error, well . . I find that simply amazing. Ibs was a unique case . . that's all.
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Sometimes trolling is a worthwhile activity. Welcome back!Marcus wrote:That's not quite accurate, Nonc, here's the actual PM to which you refer:Nonc Hilaire wrote:I know from PM's that Marcus was deliberately trolling Ibrahim. . .
Marcus wrote:
Don't take my replies to Ib too seriously . . for the most part I'm simply curious about how far he will go to have the last word.
Trolling? Maybe, maybe not. I find xenophobic closed-mindedness a genuine curiosity. All of us are opinionated . . that's fine, but when someone is so opinionated as to rudely exclude all possibility of error, well . . I find that simply amazing. Ibs was a unique case . . that's all.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote:Sometimes trolling is a worthwhile activity. Welcome back!Marcus wrote:That's not quite accurate, Nonc, here's the actual PM to which you refer:Nonc Hilaire wrote:I know from PM's that Marcus was deliberately trolling Ibrahim. . .
Marcus wrote:
Don't take my replies to Ib too seriously . . for the most part I'm simply curious about how far he will go to have the last word.
Trolling? Maybe, maybe not. I find xenophobic closed-mindedness a genuine curiosity. All of us are opinionated . . that's fine, but when someone is so opinionated as to rudely exclude all possibility of error, well . . I find that simply amazing. Ibs was a unique case . . that's all.
what is "Trolling" ? ? ?
I know trolling on Salmon fishing .. but don't know what is meant here
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Heracleum Persicum wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:Sometimes trolling is a worthwhile activity. Welcome back!Marcus wrote:That's not quite accurate, Nonc, here's the actual PM to which you refer:Nonc Hilaire wrote:I know from PM's that Marcus was deliberately trolling Ibrahim. . .
Marcus wrote:
Don't take my replies to Ib too seriously . . for the most part I'm simply curious about how far he will go to have the last word.
Trolling? Maybe, maybe not. I find xenophobic closed-mindedness a genuine curiosity. All of us are opinionated . . that's fine, but when someone is so opinionated as to rudely exclude all possibility of error, well . . I find that simply amazing. Ibs was a unique case . . that's all.
what is "Trolling" ? ? ?
I know trolling on Salmon fishing .. but don't know what is meant here
.
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instead of fishing for salmon, you fish for anger.
throw the tasty morsel into the conversation and wait for someone to take the bait.
ultracrepidarian
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noddy wrote:Heracleum Persicum wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:Sometimes trolling is a worthwhile activity. Welcome back!Marcus wrote:That's not quite accurate, Nonc, here's the actual PM to which you refer:Nonc Hilaire wrote:I know from PM's that Marcus was deliberately trolling Ibrahim. . .
Marcus wrote:
Don't take my replies to Ib too seriously . . for the most part I'm simply curious about how far he will go to have the last word.
Trolling? Maybe, maybe not. I find xenophobic closed-mindedness a genuine curiosity. All of us are opinionated . . that's fine, but when someone is so opinionated as to rudely exclude all possibility of error, well . . I find that simply amazing. Ibs was a unique case . . that's all.
what is "Trolling" ? ? ?
I know trolling on Salmon fishing .. but don't know what is meant here
.
.
instead of fishing for salmon, you fish for anger.
throw the tasty morsel into the conversation and wait for someone to take the bait.
.
Bringing up "controversial" subjects and points for debate should be welcomed .. that's one reason we here, to air and try to understand how these controversial subjects are viewed by opposing factions, with facts and evidence, should not be viewed as "trolling"
Ibrahim and MP have their strong views of things, so does Azari .. and .. bring interesting AND controversial subject to fora, that can be seen of many pages of posts in most thread I initiate
Ibrahim and Hans not posting is a great loss for OTNT
.
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no arugments from me, i dont really remember having a problem with anyone ever, its not like i have to live with anyone here
i was just defining trolling, the act of fishing for anger, one mans troller is another mans devils advocate heh.
i was just defining trolling, the act of fishing for anger, one mans troller is another mans devils advocate heh.
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noddy wrote:no arugments from me, i dont really remember having a problem with anyone ever, its not like i have to live with anyone here
i was just defining trolling, the act of fishing for anger, one mans troller is another mans devils advocate heh.
noddy, you did an excellent explanation .. I love fishing, Salmon fishing, trolling (with down-rigger), and mooching .. though my favorite is trolling
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Thank You Very Much for your post, Azari.Heracleum Persicum wrote:noddy wrote:Heracleum Persicum wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:Sometimes trolling is a worthwhile activity. Welcome back!Marcus wrote:That's not quite accurate, Nonc, here's the actual PM to which you refer:Nonc Hilaire wrote:I know from PM's that Marcus was deliberately trolling Ibrahim. . .
Marcus wrote:
Don't take my replies to Ib too seriously . . for the most part I'm simply curious about how far he will go to have the last word.
Trolling? Maybe, maybe not. I find xenophobic closed-mindedness a genuine curiosity. All of us are opinionated . . that's fine, but when someone is so opinionated as to rudely exclude all possibility of error, well . . I find that simply amazing. Ibs was a unique case . . that's all.
what is "Trolling" ? ? ?
I know trolling on Salmon fishing .. but don't know what is meant here
.
.
instead of fishing for salmon, you fish for anger.
throw the tasty morsel into the conversation and wait for someone to take the bait.
.
Bringing up "controversial" subjects and points for debate should be welcomed .. that's one reason we here, to air and try to understand how these controversial subjects are viewed by opposing factions, with facts and evidence, should not be viewed as "trolling"
Ibrahim and MP have their strong views of things, so does Azari .. and .. bring interesting AND controversial subject to fora, that can be seen of many pages of posts in most thread I initiate
Ibrahim and Hans not posting is a great loss for OTNT
.
Hans not posting is a loss.Ibrahim and Hans not posting is a great loss for OTNT
Yes, really......
Also don't like having to say...
Look, Ma!
No Hans!
Hat Tip to that extraordinary dog Mr. Peabody & his boy Sherman in the Hans Christian Oersted episode .....
And of course Jay Ward of Bullwinkle fame.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Peabody
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Christian_%C3%98rsted
Other than that Voldemort policy.........
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Orion Must Rise: Killer Space Rocks Coming Our way
The Best Laid Plans of Men, Monkeys & Pigs Oft Go Awry
Woe to those who long for the Day of the Lord, for It is Darkness, Not Light
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Heracleum Persicum wrote:noddy wrote:no arugments from me, i dont really remember having a problem with anyone ever, its not like i have to live with anyone here
i was just defining trolling, the act of fishing for anger, one mans troller is another mans devils advocate heh.
noddy, you did an excellent explanation .. I love fishing, Salmon fishing, trolling (with down-rigger), and mooching .. though my favorite is trolling
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and...... then there's catfish noodling.....^^.......
She irons her jeans, she's evil.........