Who, really, is Marine Le Pen ?

[Heracleum Persicum]

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" It is a bad day for the European Union when a party with such a racist, xenophobic and anti-Semitic program gets 25 percent of the vote in France "

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Ms. Le Pen's party has called for the creation of a Paris-Berlin-Moscow axis. She describes Mr. Putin as "a patriot"—and generally sounds, after a pre-election trip to Moscow, as intent as the Russian president to neuter the EU as a Western political force.

Mr. Putin couldn't have a more comfortably avowed ally. "He's aware we are defending common values,'' she said of the Kremlin ruler. Which ones? Ms. Le Pen's response: "The Christian heritage of European civilization.''

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.. makes sense to meeeeee

(Christian) Values being perverted in America and Europe .. somebody must mind the store (even Francis (the holly Shepperd ) seems confused) .. Who could have believed a (ex) communist KGB officer would be defender of "Christian heritage of European civilization." and Capitalist west ( ) in free-fall decadence destroying the main pillar of Christian heritage of European civilization.

Vladimiro Gooooooooooooo

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[Simple Minded]

French women.... Russian men..... Is this not a union that screams synchronicity?

"I not only bow to the inevitable, I am fortified by it!"

[Alexis]

" It is a bad day for the European Union when a party with such a racist, xenophobic and anti-Semitic program gets 25 percent of the vote in France "

The Wall Street Journal, and John Vinocur? My, we are in deep propaganda territory, aren't we?

Concern expressed for supposedly "racist, xenophobic and anti-Semitic program" is just a load of horse manure, of course. What is of interest to Vinocur is geostrategy, and how it influes on Imperial interests.

Inexistent neofascism within France's FN is from that point of view much more disquieting than violent and murderous neofascism within Ukraine's Svoboda - the latter being actively supported by the US - and this for exactly the reason you cite: the Hegemon is presently interested in setting apart Europe and Russia, hoping to weaken both and to solidify its control of the former. Le Pen is one of the French politicians the most interested in strong relationship with Russia - others are in the Left Front - for reasons parallel to (former German chancellors) Schmidt's, Kohl's and Schröder's, and summed up nicely in this one-liner: because it makes so much sense! Therefore Le Pen is a very Evil politician. The logic is irresistible... it is the logic of propaganda.

Almost every sentence in Vinocur's text would need to be corrected. I don't have the time for that. Best I can point to is this text by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard about Marine Le Pen.

France's triumphant 'Joan of Arc' vows to bring back franc and destroy euro
Marine Le Pen is spoiling for a fight. The leader of France's Front National vows to smash the existing order of Europe and force the break-up of monetary union, if she wins the next election.

Evans-Pritchard is also writing from an Anglo-Saxon and pro-Hegemon point of view. The difference is simply that he writes journalism, not low-level propaganda like Vinocur.

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Does the French Government Understand That It’s Time to Panic ?

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[Endovelico]

(...) the Hegemon is presently interested in setting apart Europe and Russia, hoping to weaken both and to solidify its control of the former. Le Pen is one of the French politicians the most interested in strong relationship with Russia - others are in the Left Front - for reasons parallel to (former German chancellors) Schmidt's, Kohl's and Schröder's, and summed up nicely in this one-liner: because it makes so much sense!

That's precisely my view. Hopefully we will understand the sense it makes before it's too late.

[Heracleum Persicum]

(...) the Hegemon is presently interested in setting apart Europe and Russia, hoping to weaken both and to solidify its control of the former. Le Pen is one of the French politicians the most interested in strong relationship with Russia - others are in the Left Front - for reasons parallel to (former German chancellors) Schmidt's, Kohl's and Schröder's, and summed up nicely in this one-liner: because it makes so much sense!

That's precisely my view. Hopefully we will understand the sense it makes before it's too late.

seconded


For centuries, there was wars in Europe, many millions died in wars between French and Germans (and Brits) ..

Adenauer and De Gaul thought "enough is enough" and created "European Union"

Same idea at work in European and Russian relation

For centuries Europe attacked Russia killing so many people

Now, Europe and Russia must come together to build the "wider Union"

American policy confronting Russia, like many other American foreign policy, wrong .. it will (has already) push Russia to EAST (China) instead to WEST (Europe) with unintended consequences down the road for west

A mistake

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[Alexis]

American policy confronting Russia, like many other American foreign policy, wrong .. it will (has already) push Russia to EAST (China) instead to WEST (Europe) with unintended consequences down the road for west

A mistake.

'Tis a rare moment, HP ...

Not when you and I agree - sometimes yes, sometimes no, anyway not so rare.

But when you and Spengler agree!

We should have proposed a federal solution to Ukraine before the Russians did. That’s what we will get, like it or not. Ukraine is not the issue; any discussion that begins with Ukraine is not even wrong, just irrelevant.

If we play our cards wrong, we could — as Francesco Sisci warns — undo everything that Nixon and Kissinger accomplished and help bring an unfriendly Eurasian bloc into being. I can’t think of a foreign policy more self-defeating since Napoleon III declared war on Prussia.

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American policy confronting Russia, like many other American foreign policy, wrong .. it will (has already) push Russia to EAST (China) instead to WEST (Europe) with unintended consequences down the road for west

A mistake.

'This a rare moment, HP ...

Not when you and I agree - sometimes yes, sometimes no, anyway not so rare.

But when you and Spengler agree!

We should have proposed a federal solution to Ukraine before the Russians did. That’s what we will get, like it or not. Ukraine is not the issue; any discussion that begins with Ukraine is not even wrong, just irrelevant.

If we play our cards wrong, we could — as Francesco Sisci warns — undo everything that Nixon and Kissinger accomplished and help bring an unfriendly Eurasian bloc into being. I can’t think of a foreign policy more self-defeating since Napoleon III declared war on Prussia.

Only if David got rid of that (Zionist) LICE, he not dummy, not at all

True, really stupid to push Russia into Mr. Li camp .. same with Iran

Notion West can handle a Russia-China-Iran (+ probably India and all the Far East Tiger that China would gather together in the camp), that notion, naive

My take is, America losing a long time enemy, Communism, now looking to create another one .. reason being, the eggheads still believe, military competition, MIC, would be the driver of future might .. a big mistake

Military technology advancing fast to a point making itself impotent

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American policy confronting Russia, like many other American foreign policy, wrong .. it will (has already) push Russia to EAST (China) instead to WEST (Europe) with unintended consequences down the road for west

A mistake.

'This a rare moment, HP ...

Not when you and I agree - sometimes yes, sometimes no, anyway not so rare.

But when you and Spengler agree!

We should have proposed a federal solution to Ukraine before the Russians did. That’s what we will get, like it or not. Ukraine is not the issue; any discussion that begins with Ukraine is not even wrong, just irrelevant.

If we play our cards wrong, we could — as Francesco Sisci warns — undo everything that Nixon and Kissinger accomplished and help bring an unfriendly Eurasian bloc into being. I can’t think of a foreign policy more self-defeating since Napoleon III declared war on Prussia.

Only if David got rid of that (Zionist) LICE, he not dummy, not at all

True, really stupid to push Russia into Mr. Li camp .. same with Iran

Notion West can handle a Russia-China-Iran (+ probably India and all the Far East Tiger that China would gather together in the camp), that notion, naive

My take is, America losing a long time enemy, Communism, now looking to create another one .. reason being, the eggheads still believe, military competition, MIC, would be the driver of future might .. a big mistake

Military technology advancing fast to a point making itself impotent

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Thank You Very Much for your post, Azari.

Military technology advancing fast to a point making itself impotent

Not so....

Not when you consider what some especially Depraved Sinful Egotistical Chaos Monkey Killer Apes are willing to do....

And that sometimes they lead nations which have WMDs.......

Likely to get worse as more nations get them...

Before WW1 the Europeans thought they had war under control.....

That it would be quick & brisk and not really damaging....

Like the 6 Weeks War....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Prussian_War

They didn't really have war under control......

Neither do we.....

WW2 proved to be more like the American Civil War.....

Only nastier......

Might to be good to be in the Southern Hemisphere or off planet when the next really big one happens....

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Marine Le Pen aiming for the presidency in 2017.
With François Hollande's popularity plummeting, it is not out of the question

Conquering France One Step at a Time

Thus, Sunday's success is seen as but a stage victory among Front National's leaders. They have set their sights on more than EU institutions in Brussels; they also want power back home. "Conquer France first, then destroy Europe," Louis Alliot, deputy head of the party as well as Marine Le Pen's companion, said of the strategy.

With 4.5 million votes, the party didn't fare as well on Sunday as it did during the 2012 presidential election, when it attracted 6.5 million French voters. Still, the party did manage to attract around 11 percent of all eligible voters, which has sparked hopes among FN supporters for the 2017 presidential campaign.

In order to position Marine Le Pen as a realistic alternative to the mainstream parties, the far-right is focusing on conquering the country one step at a time. Next year's regional elections could prove decisive. Of the 21 regional administrative bodies where elections are to be held, 20 are currently led by the Socialists.

If the left fares as poorly in those elections as it did on Sunday -- the Socialists managed just 14 percent -- the FN could profit from its continued decline. Marine Le Pen could also stand a real chance in a match-up against President François Hollande. Current polls show that, with a public approval rating of just 11 percent, Hollande is the most unpopular president of France in decades.

But is Le Pen's shot at the presidential palace little more than wishful thinking?

"In the past, the Front National has only had bastions of support in certain areas," says political scientist Gombin. "But with this election, FN has become a national party. Next to the traditional left and right, it has now risen to become France's third political force."

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