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Mr. Perfect wrote:What did he say.
Even now, moderate voices on taxation are urging party elites to learn their lesson from the Trump phenomenon. The lesson is this: Republicans have been failing to represent the economic interests of their older voters and heartland conservatives. If they persist in this error, their voters will offer a stiff correction.
Folks,

Trump:

"The hedge fund people make a lot of money and pay very little tax"

"I don't mind paying a little more in taxes."

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/27/news/ec ... y-tax-plan



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Mr. Perfect wrote:Trump is a real anti-establishment candidate. The old Rove/Bush brigades will be sent off the plank. Every single person in the orbit will have to earn their seat. For once I'm with Simple Minded. It's going to be something to watch.
Yeah! It's like watching for a train accident to occur and see how many people do not actually get killed... I couldn't imagine a sadder thing than watching a proud nation having to choose its leader from among a bunch of clowns and psychos... How many people in the US actually understand what democracy is all about?...
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:What did he say.
Even now, moderate voices on taxation are urging party elites to learn their lesson from the Trump phenomenon. The lesson is this: Republicans have been failing to represent the economic interests of their older voters and heartland conservatives. If they persist in this error, their voters will offer a stiff correction.
Doesn't sound like anything Trump said. The GOP has been winning elections on tax cuts for 30 years. The base of the GOP votes on economic interests. I think Zack Morris wrote that article.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:Trump is a real anti-establishment candidate. The old Rove/Bush brigades will be sent off the plank. Every single person in the orbit will have to earn their seat. For once I'm with Simple Minded. It's going to be something to watch.
Yeah! It's like watching for a train accident to occur and see how many people do not actually get killed... I couldn't imagine a sadder thing than watching a proud nation having to choose its leader from among a bunch of clowns and psychos... How many people in the US actually understand what democracy is all about?...
That's what European leftists said about Reagan. And he made the US into a sole global superpower.

Can't wait for round 2.
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Mr. Perfect wrote: Can't wait for round 2.
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I think it's coming. Trump has just backed Obama on the Iran deal.

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What did he say.
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I thought Trump said some along the lines of the deal with Iran being terrible, Kerry being a bike riding knucklehead; but he is not a contract breaker and will police the margins of it down to the letter as he works to renegotiate when optimal.
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Doesn't sound like a backing to me. But if it isn't a treaty we aren't bound to it.
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Wow. Donald Trump is beating Hillary Clinton. So much for all that Hispanic vote horse$#!t. Donald Trump is electable. So much liberalism is about to die. The end of the Democrat Party. The end of the necrotic left wing MSM. A new true American era to begin. So many establishment careers about to end, being forgotten forever.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... ad-to-head
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary Clinton head-to-head, according to a new poll released Friday.

The poll by SurveyUSA finds that matched up directly, Trump garners 45 percent to Clinton’s 40 percent.

In other head-to-head matchups, Trump beats out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) by 44 percent to 40 percent; Vice President Joe Biden by 44 percent to 42 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent to 41 percent.

Trump’s surge past Clinton marks a dramatic turnaround in the polls.
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Carson Over Trump Every Day of the Week, and Twice on Sundays
By: Leon H. Wolf (Diary) | September 5th, 2015 at 03:11 PM |

As I stated yesterday, it’s evident that the Trump phenomenon isn’t going to go away any time soon. However, it’s also equally evident that the Ben Carson phenomenon isn’t going away any time soon, either. How do I know this? A couple of points from the polling released yesterday indicates that Carson’s current base of support in the polls is very stubborn and that his current level of support may represent his floor rather than his ceiling.

First, it isn’t tremendously difficult to discern why Trump continues to hold first place in the polls while other candidates like Walker, Bush, and Rubio have slid into the background: the answer is that Trump is a ratings bonanza. As a result of this, Trump has received an absolutely staggering amount of media coverage over the last few weeks – far more than any frontrunner of either party ever has at this point of their campaign. Sure, a lot of that coverage has been negative, but a candidate who is under relentless attack from the American media will attract Republican votes, not repel them.

On the other hand, Carson has been flying almost totally and completely under the radar over the last few months, and yet has seen a steady and unrelenting rise in the base of his support. The WSJ reports that over the recent weeks, Trump has gotten over 60 times more mentions in the media than Carson – not 60% more, 60 times more. And yet during this time, Carson is the only candidate in the field who has risen relative to Trump, which means that his support is built almost entirely from personal impressions and word of mouth contact, which tends to be much firmer and more resolute than support that is created via television and media mentions.

Other anecdotal evidence suggests that Carson may well be building the only groundswell capable of catching and passing Trump while the other, more “seasoned” GOP candidates flounder about, unable to deal with him. Carson recently outdrew a huge Trump crowd at the same venue in Phoenix. In yesterday’s Gallup polling, Carson was far and away the most popular candidate in the Republican field, and was furthermore the only Republican candidate who beat Trump in a head to head matchup.

And Carson might well be the one candidate who has figured out the way to beat Trump – which is to ignore that he exists. Every candidate who has thus far attempted to take on Trump head on and beat him via frontal assault has suffered disastrous losses in the process. There’s a reason that Trump is basically begging for Carson to take a swing at him – he knows that as long as Carson ignores him and continues to climb in the polls, he presents what is right now the only true existential threat to Trump’s campaign.

Listen, in an ideal world, I would prefer a candidate who has proven that he can still be a conservative after having been elected to office – someone who has proven that he can withstand the temptations of Washington, not someone who is completely untested by them at all. GOP voters, right now, seem to be rejecting that argument as being without merit – right now, the trio of Trump, Carson and Fiorina threatens to leave the rest of the field in the dust. That’s fine; not everyone has to agree with me.

But while I have concerns about Carson as our Presidential nominee, based both on questions about his ability to win and his ability to successfully govern if he does win, I would not feel, say, horrified at the prospect of handing the world’s largest nuclear arsenal over to his control, like I would with Donald Trump. I believe very firmly that, whatever missteps he might make as a Presidential nominee or as President, Carson would carry himself with dignity in both positions and in the final analysis, history would look kindly on his efforts.

I think America and the world would unquestionably be better places after four or eight years of President Ben Carson. Which is not something I can say about Donald Trump. Which is why, if it really is true that Trump and Carson are on an inevitable collision course, I would happily and without reservation cast my lot with Carson, come what may. If the GOP is doomed to burn ignominiously this election – which it probably deserves to do, I would feel proud to do it with Carson at the head and confident that it can be reborn from the ashes. And I would even have hope that Carson stood a puncher’s chance to salvage victory for himself, which would be the best of all results.

I vote on Super Tuesday. If it comes down to Trump v. Carson on that day, it will be one of the easiest decisions I have ever made at the ballot box.
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And he would be the first black President.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:
Endovelico wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:Trump is a real anti-establishment candidate. The old Rove/Bush brigades will be sent off the plank. Every single person in the orbit will have to earn their seat. For once I'm with Simple Minded. It's going to be something to watch.
Yeah! It's like watching for a train accident to occur and see how many people do not actually get killed... I couldn't imagine a sadder thing than watching a proud nation having to choose its leader from among a bunch of clowns and psychos... How many people in the US actually understand what democracy is all about?...
That's what European leftists said about Reagan. And he made the US into a sole global superpower.

. . .
Hardly. The US was a superpower since the end of WWII.

Reagan's claim to fame is that he was first POTUS to pass USD $1 trillion in adding to the US debt.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtand ... sident.htm
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Mr. Perfect wrote:What did he say.
Mr P,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... 468d9d907e

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Folks,

It's good to see Trump supporting the Obama administration's gay marriage ruling.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/ ... HN20150904

I'm beginning to think this guy can win. :)

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Typhoon wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Endovelico wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:Trump is a real anti-establishment candidate. The old Rove/Bush brigades will be sent off the plank. Every single person in the orbit will have to earn their seat. For once I'm with Simple Minded. It's going to be something to watch.
Yeah! It's like watching for a train accident to occur and see how many people do not actually get killed... I couldn't imagine a sadder thing than watching a proud nation having to choose its leader from among a bunch of clowns and psychos... How many people in the US actually understand what democracy is all about?...
That's what European leftists said about Reagan. And he made the US into a sole global superpower.

. . .
Hardly. The US was a superpower since the end of WWII.

Reagan's claim to fame is that he was first POTUS to pass USD $1 trillion in adding to the US debt.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtand ... sident.htm
Sole superpower. Reading is important.

Ronald Reagan is considered the greatest president in us history by Americans. You think this is because of a round number? Cant wait to see you back that up.
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manolo wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:What did he say.
Mr P,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... 468d9d907e

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What did he say.
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manolo wrote:Folks,

It's good to see Trump supporting the Obama administration's gay marriage ruling.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/ ... HN20150904

I'm beginning to think this guy can win. :)

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What did he say. Also, the obama administration did not make a ruling. And polling this morning shows that yes, Donald can definitely win.
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The issue is trumps numbers are going up in a straight line. 6 weeks ago he was down to hrc by 15 pts. Now he is up by 5. In a month he may be up over 10-15 and we can cruise. So many establishment careers to destroy.

The more people see him the more they like him. Watching him speak its easy to understand.
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Mr. Perfect wrote: The more people see him the more they like him. Watching him speak its easy to understand.
Mr P,

I think you are correct. Sticking with the Obama deal on Iran, taxing the rich, supporting legal gay marriage - what's not to like? This guy appeals to everyman.

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Mr. Perfect wrote:
Typhoon wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Endovelico wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:Trump is a real anti-establishment candidate. The old Rove/Bush brigades will be sent off the plank. Every single person in the orbit will have to earn their seat. For once I'm with Simple Minded. It's going to be something to watch.
Yeah! It's like watching for a train accident to occur and see how many people do not actually get killed... I couldn't imagine a sadder thing than watching a proud nation having to choose its leader from among a bunch of clowns and psychos... How many people in the US actually understand what democracy is all about?...
That's what European leftists said about Reagan. And he made the US into a sole global superpower.

. . .
Hardly. The US was a superpower since the end of WWII.

Reagan's claim to fame is that he was first POTUS to pass USD $1 trillion in adding to the US debt.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtand ... sident.htm
Sole superpower. Reading is important.
The former SU collapsed under it own contradictions.
Raygun had little, if anything, to do with it.
Mr. Perfect wrote:Ronald Reagan is considered the greatest president in us history by Americans. You think this is because of a round number? Cant wait to see you back that up.
If accurate, then all that goes to show is how little most Americans know about their own history.
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Actually, it would be interesting to see Trump as POTUS.

Farce is always more entertaining than tragedy.
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manolo wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote: The more people see him the more they like him. Watching him speak its easy to understand.
Mr P,

I think you are correct. Sticking with the Obama deal on Iran, taxing the rich, supporting legal gay marriage - what's not to like? This guy appeals to everyman.

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Very few democrats believe this. Will you help me convince them that Trump is an obama 3rd term? Trump is in the lead but better safe than sorry.
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Typhoon wrote:Actually, it would be interesting to see Trump as POTUS.

Farce is always more entertaining than tragedy.
See what I mean?
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As Trump takes the lead, this is a time for teachable moment. As many of you are not Americans and and understand little about our politics, I'll give you a little insight.

There is a percentage of people, we could say right wing. We could say... it's hard to say. They are in the mold of Pat Buchanan. Maybe Ross Perot. A little Jesse Ventura. They sort of defy a category.

But they are losers. IOW, they think the deck of life, specifically politics is unfairly stacked against them. There are powers that be that control election outcomes and their vote is an exercise in futility. They are afraid to vote for GOP candidates because of fear of failure, and offer the excuse that they'll be controlled anyway. they don't like Democrats at all, for the lunacy. I have been dealing with these people, with great aggravation for 25 years. I know them as well as I know leftists. I instinctively know what they think before they do, just as I can do with democrats.

One of their leaders is Alex Jones. Alex Jones started out very skeptical to Trump. Very skeptical. Trump was an NWO conspiracy. He had to be, because everything is a NWO conspiracy. Very similar to the Ymix argument. Trump is a stealth establishment candidate. Because there are so few of them to choose from. :) Can't really come up with an incentive for Trump to do that, but it must be true. A billionaire taking a year out of his life to be a fall guy for who knows who or why.

But the tone is changing. Alex Jones is warming up to Donald Trump. Alex Jones likes what he's hearing. Alex Jones gives Trump good press. This is unusual, to the point of being remarkable. AJ doesn't back politicos that actually have the chance to run things and be accountable. Politicians he buddys with are all down the rung, and their ideas will never see the light of day.

The Alex Jones contingent could be worth 10 million votes. That wipes anything the Democrats have. They have misled their base about the Hispanic numbers being a trump card. They aren't. Trump has several million votes more potential to offset any Hispanic losses. And while we're on it, after the deportations the Hispanic vote won't be relevant any more, in the future.

These people haven't voted positively or significantly for anyone, since Ronald Reagan. We speak of the Reagan Democrat, but this is so much more. If anyone cares to, there is a large conversation to be had about them, but what I'm raising is that for the first time in decades they are in play and may be unstoppable.
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Typhoon wrote: The former SU collapsed under it own contradictions.
Raygun had little, if anything, to do with it.

All that goes to show is how little most Americans know about their own history.
A more thorough rebuttal has never been written ;) .

Let's do Occam's razor.

Would a person from Japan or a person from America know more about an American President.
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