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AIPAC’s clout helps fuel a never-ending cycle of violence in the Middle East.

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[Zack Morris]

Don't worry, America's chickens will come home to roost. Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

[Parodite]

Don't worry, America's chickens will come home to roost. Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

Same behavior elicits different consequences in different environments.

[AzariLoveIran]

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The reality was that Bush insisted that accurate intelligence he was getting from traditional sources was false and that lies he was being told by other parties were true.

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Now, there is Iran.

Over and again the intelligence community has told the powers that be that Iran is not engaged in a nuclear weapons program. And over and again the men and women in Congress and the White House have insisted that these traditional sources of information are wrong and that the stories that are coming from other sources (in this case the Israeli government and its special interest agents in Washington) know better.

As in 2003, so it is in 2012.

The politicians appear to be out for blood.

One wonders how many dead and maimed bodies will satisfy them ?

Perhaps it will be a million dead Iranians.

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The only difference is that today, we have a president who is hesitant to go to war this very moment. As General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has put it, the major difference between the U.S. and Israel on military action against Iran is timing. For President Obama, first comes the “diplomacy” of ultimatums combined with draconian sanctions, and then comes the slaughter. Perhaps it will come in his anticipated second term.
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What is Real?

Questions One and Two : The questions about Iran’s nuclear program are not open-ended.

They have real answers.

First, is Iran developing nuclear energy?

The answer to this is a definitive yes.

No one, Iranian or otherwise, denies this.

Their aim here is energy production and medical applications.

This is all legal.

Second, is it developing nuclear weapons? According to every reliable expert within the intelligence agencies of both the United States and Europe, the answer is no. These answers describe reality in relation to Iran and its nuclear activities.

Question Three: The really important question. Why do American politicians and military leaders refuse to accept reality as regards this issue? That too must have an answer. And intelligent people who investigate these matters should be able to figure it out. I consider myself in this crowd, and so I am going to venture forth with my answer.

Answer to Question Three: It is Politics. However, it is not just U.S. politics. Others have helped write the script. These others can be identified by asking to whom are American officials pledging to pursue the Iranian nuclear weapons fantasy? The president’s pledge has gone to AIPAC and the Israelis. Members of Congress have done the same.

Israeli politicians are addicted to the Iran threat. Iran serves, alongside the Palestinians, as the latter-day ruthless anti-Semite who would destroy the Jews. Zionists seem to need this kind of “existentialist” enemy, the equivalent of the Islamic fundamentalist taking the place of the hateful communist as the great enemy that the United States also seems to need.

And, as it turns out, the Israeli lobby is more influential in formulating U.S. foreign policy toward Iran than all of the nation’s intelligence services put together. Hence U.S. politicians from the president on down, chase shadows, not just verbally, mind you, but in terms of definable policy (like sanctions against Iran).

U.S. politicians and military leaders cannot talk like this and create policy like this without the mainstream press following along. Where there is smoke, there must be fire. Plus, ever since the Iranian hostage crisis (1979-1981), Americans have been told that the Iranians hate us.

So, whether it is Fox TV whose fanatical conservative backers have always lived in a bi-polar fantasy world of good and evil, or the New York Times, whose quasi-liberal backers empathize with Israel just enough to buy into that country’s paranoia, the message is that the Iranians are crazy people out to destroy the West. And the evidence? Who needs it?

Acting on False Assumptions

What happens when a well-armed individual cannot tell the difference between reality and unreality? What happens when a well-armed individual just knows, in his gut, that the other guy is plotting to destroy him? Chances are something horrible will happen.

And, the American public ought to know that this is so, because collectively we have already lived out this tragedy in 2003. In that year we had leaders who were much more influenced by their guts, by religious imagery, by duplicitous Iraqi con men, by scheming Zionists and ideologically driven neo-cons, than anything vaguely resembling hard evidence. That “something horrible” cost the lives of up to a million human beings.

So let us get this straight. It seems there are two worlds. The real world of facts and evidence and the unreal world of fantasy. Our political leaders and their advisers are, apparently, stuck in the unreal one. Their words, and their policies, are built on the assumptions of this fantasy world. They go to war and kill people based on beliefs that are demonstrably false.

And the rest of us? Most of us are stuck in our own local niches and beyond them we do not know what is real or unreal. So we rely on others to tell us what to believe. Who are the others? They just happen to be our political leaders, their advisers and follow-the-leader media commentators. Well, that makes a nice little circle. And, a fatal one at that.
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[Zack Morris]

Don't worry, America's chickens will come home to roost. Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

Same behavior elicits different consequences in different environments.

Exactly right, Parodite. With a mix of intelligence, wisdom, and past experience, we can adjust to the circumstances and devise solutions that are more likely to be successful.

[Parodite]

Don't worry, America's chickens will come home to roost. Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

Same behavior elicits different consequences in different environments.

Exactly right, Parodite. With a mix of intelligence, wisdom, and past experience, we can adjust to the circumstances and devise solutions that are more likely to be successful.

Concurred.

[AzariLoveIran]

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Mr. Perfect

No, this not made by Iran .. this how Mr. RedNeck thinkin

Lord , have merci, amen


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Don't be fooled .. things boiling


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[monster_gardener]

Don't worry, America's chickens will come home to roost. Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

Thank you Very Much for your post, Zack Morris......

Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

And partially also inherent in the often evil memes of others in the world............

Recalling again what happened right at the beginning of the Republic........

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

Had to pay tribute to the 2 legged Sons of Bitches until we/US/Uz were strong enough to do something about it...........

That S.O.B. Tobias Lear queered our pitch at Tripoli more than a little ........... still a victory......... but not a completely satisfying one.....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_Wa ... d_overview

But when the Southeast Asian branch of this meme tried it, Andy Jackson did it right...... "Chastise sharply"........ Milo Doctrine....... Break and Leave.... Shoot the pirates........ Burn the Pirate port to the ground........ Repeat as necessary .......... Wash & rinse hands.......
No STUPID George W. Bush nation building & Democracy teaching....... Just Break and Leave.......

There have been other malicious memes....... Nazism thought that the US was weak, half Jewish, Half black........... Declared war on US...........
Managed to reform them.......... More or less.......... Some Greeks disagree

Communism was out to conquer the world for Socialism similar to the way Islam is out to conquer the world for Allah.......by whatever means necessary.........
Lot's of close calls on this one..........

We/US do cause problems for ourselves ......... But they often hate us because it is part of their nature as well as anything we do.............

They hate & kill each other too....... Which is a VERY GOOD thing........ A major reason the Nazi's were beaten.........

[AzariLoveIran]

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Don't worry, America's chickens will come home to roost. Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

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Thank you Very Much for your post, Zack Morris ......

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Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

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And partially also inherent in the often evil memes of others in the world............

Recalling again what happened right at the beginning of the Republic........

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

Had to pay tribute to the 2 legged Sons of Bitches until we/US/Uz were strong enough to do something about it...........

That S.O.B. Tobias Lear queered our pitch at Tripoli more than a little ........... still a victory......... but not a completely satisfying one .....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_Wa ... d_overview

But when the Southeast Asian branch of this meme tried it, Andy Jackson did it right...... "Chastise sharply"........ Milo Doctrine....... Break and Leave.... Shoot the pirates........ Burn the Pirate port to the ground........ Repeat as necessary .......... Wash & rinse hands.......

No STUPID George W. Bush nation building & Democracy teaching....... Just Break and Leave.......

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Interesting, monster_gardener

I can understand you upset that those SOB pirates from Tripoli, claiming "It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise."

Yes, really bad

and what was the result of that action by those pirates ?

not much

so

I hope

you can understand

how disgusted and mad Iranians were AND are

when democratically elected, blue blood (from a 300 yrs noble dynasty) Iranian prime minister Dr. Mossadegh
was overthrown by CIA to steal for next 25 yrs Iranian Oil and in the meantime kill millions of Iranian partiot and nationalist by CIA/Mossad trained murderers, Savak

or democratically elected Aliende .. same in Argentina

and

later Saddam killing 1 million Iranians by West supplying all the arms and bio germ

well

Monster

you still think Iran does not deserve Nuclear Bomb

You still think Zionist that doing genocide on Palestinians, even Pope saying that is a concentration camp, and Carter 2nd it , you still think Zionist deserve a nuclear bomb and Iran not ?

BTW , with due respect, Monster, why you think a power who has dropped 2 nuclear bomb on civilians can say to a nation that has not attacked anybody last 500 yrs can not have nuclear weapon ? ?

BYW, why is President Obama associating with that POS Cameron ? ?

Did not Brits fool Eisenhower to overthrow Mossadegh ?

What the genuflect is business of Brits and Syria ?

Is Iran or Syria meddling in norther Island dispute with Brits ?

look, Monster

old good days behind us

you see how with small things, Koran burning or 16 woman/children killing in Afghanistan, western future can be sealed in that space ? ?

People of that space, Iranians, Arabs, Central Asians and and , are no idiots, they know western history of last 300 yrs in that space

American military basis can not exist within (politely said) not friendly population

They will fall one by one

Bahrain 5th fleet base already on unfriendly territory

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There have been other malicious memes....... Nazism thought that the US was weak, half Jewish, Half black........... Declared war on US...........

Managed to reform them.......... More or less.......... Some Greeks disagree

Communism was out to conquer the world for Socialism similar to the way Islam is out to conquer the world for Allah.......by whatever means necessary.........
Lot's of close calls on this one..........

We/US do cause problems for ourselves ......... But they often hate us because it is part of their nature as well as anything we do.............

They hate & kill each other too....... Which is a VERY GOOD thing........ A major reason the Nazi's were beaten........

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[monster_gardener]

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Don't worry, America's chickens will come home to roost. Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

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Thank you Very Much for your post, Zack Morris ......

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Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

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And partially also inherent in the often evil memes of others in the world............

Recalling again what happened right at the beginning of the Republic........

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

Had to pay tribute to the 2 legged Sons of Bitches until we/US/Uz were strong enough to do something about it...........

That S.O.B. Tobias Lear queered our pitch at Tripoli more than a little ........... still a victory......... but not a completely satisfying one .....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_Wa ... d_overview

But when the Southeast Asian branch of this meme tried it, Andy Jackson did it right...... "Chastise sharply"........ Milo Doctrine....... Break and Leave.... Shoot the pirates........ Burn the Pirate port to the ground........ Repeat as necessary .......... Wash & rinse hands.......

No STUPID George W. Bush nation building & Democracy teaching....... Just Break and Leave.......

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Interesting, monster_gardener

I can understand you upset that those SOB pirates from Tripoli, claiming "It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise."

Yes, really bad

and what was the result of that action by those pirates ?

not much

so

I hope

you can understand

how disgusted and mad Iranians were AND are

when democratically elected, blue blood (from a 300 yrs noble dynasty) Iranian prime minister Dr. Mossadegh
was overthrown by CIA to steal for next 25 yrs Iranian Oil and in the meantime kill millions of Iranian partiot and nationalist by CIA/Mossad trained murderers, Savak

or democratically elected Aliende .. same in Argentina

and

later Saddam killing 1 million Iranians by West supplying all the arms and bio germ

well

Monster

you still think Iran does not deserve Nuclear Bomb

You still think Zionist that doing genocide on Palestinians, even Pope saying that is a concentration camp, and Carter 2nd it , you still think Zionist deserve a nuclear bomb and Iran not ?

BTW , with due respect, Monster, why you think a power who has dropped 2 nuclear bomb on civilians can say to a nation that has not attacked anybody last 500 yrs can not have nuclear weapon ? ?

BYW, why is President Obama associating with that POS Cameron ? ?

Did not Brits fool Eisenhower to overthrow Mossadegh ?

What the genuflect is business of Brits and Syria ?

Is Iran or Syria meddling in norther Island dispute with Brits ?

look, Monster

old good days behind us

you see how with small things, Koran burning or 16 woman/children killing in Afghanistan, western future can be sealed in that space ? ?

People of that space, Iranians, Arabs, Central Asians and and , are no idiots, they know western history of last 300 yrs in that space

American military basis can not exist within (politely said) not friendly population

They will fall one by one

Bahrain 5th fleet base already on unfriendly territory

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There have been other malicious memes....... Nazism thought that the US was weak, half Jewish, Half black........... Declared war on US...........

Managed to reform them.......... More or less.......... Some Greeks disagree

Communism was out to conquer the world for Socialism similar to the way Islam is out to conquer the world for Allah.......by whatever means necessary.........
Lot's of close calls on this one..........

We/US do cause problems for ourselves ......... But they often hate us because it is part of their nature as well as anything we do.............

They hate & kill each other too....... Which is a VERY GOOD thing........ A major reason the Nazi's were beaten........

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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.

Not saying Iran not "deserve" to have nuke............ "Deserve" not matter.......... Survive matter

Saying Iran may get itself and much of Northern Hemisphere killed trying to get one.............

IMVHO not by US......

Iran likely to get attacked and maybe nuked by Israel who used to be ally of Iran..........

Iran & Israel even work on missile together............. right before dirty AyaToilet Khomeini take over...........

But Mad mad mullahs ruin it all with Satan talk........ with "rain fire down on Israel" talk...........

Jews not trust people who say that......... even if were once friendly........... **

Not without proofs (dead or deposed mad mullahs maybe........) and Verify and maybe Trust Peace Treaty...........

Maybe something on order of leave Israel & West alone while Iran show can civilize Afghans maybe to level King Mahinda did so long ago.........

I think that MAYBE you can do it...... Hard work though.......... Not count on any Uz help except NGOs........

BYW, why is President Obama associating with that POS Cameron ? ?

Don't know........... Can work at finding out.......... AIUI Obama not like Brits............
But not sure have time........ Maybe Alexis knows.........



Pirates VERY IMPORTANT.......... Expose in Nutshell true nature of Islam as traditionally practiced....

And Islam not worst meme infecting insane asylum planet..........


Again I say: what happened to Mossadegh was WRONG..........

Maybe Iran get apology with peace treaty ... Paul or Obama...... Obama good at apologizing.......

Something I like about Obama even though apologies seem to not do much good so far ......

Is Iran or Syria meddling in norther Island dispute with Brits

Similar did happen........ Arab/Muslims cooperating with IRA ......... And others......... Japanese Red Army ........

You still think Zionist that doing genocide on Palestinians, even Pope saying that is a concentration camp, and Carter 2nd it , you still think Zionist deserve a nuclear bomb and Iran not ?

Concentration camp........ So you & the Pope say Gaza is Auschwitz......... Buchenwald or maybe Theresienstadt......
I don't think so.........

I do think that Jews would have thanked G_d if they had been given a state in Europe by the Germans Like the Palestinians have in Gaza...........
Where pretty much the main rule was not sending rockets or commando raids into Germany ..........

IIRC I remember seeing terrorists expelled by Israel ending up lounging on the beaches of Gaza....

Gaza IMVHO could be an improved version of Hong Kong if the Palestinians were agnostic Buddhist Daoist Confucians with a Lee Kuan Yew clone as President/King instead of a gang of Muslims sworn to push the Jews into the Sea...........

If horses were witches, a beggar could fly Oops I mean if wishes were horses, a beggar could ride..........

Fly to maybe to the Moon and beyond.......

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And a lot of the Northern Hemisphere might have a better chance of not getting wasted.........

old good days behind us

They were NOT "good old days"...........

Came DAM close to destroying Northern Hemisphere........ Maybe world......... More than once.........

BTW , with due respect, Monster, why you think a power who has dropped 2 nuclear bomb on civilians can say to a nation that has not attacked anybody last 500 yrs can not have nuclear weapon ? ?

Since you asked.............

"Don't be as stupid,foolish and reckless as we/US/Uz & the Soviets were..........."

You might not get as lucky as we were .......... There might not be a brave Russian/Israeli officer who will say that an Iranian satellite launch is probably NOT a missile coming at Russia/Israel.........

"Reaching for that gun/nuke may get you killed by your former ally who thinks you have gone insane with Madhi Madness and have turned into an evil IrreDentist"* ............

Despite 500 years....... You too can reach a Nadir** ......... again..

As can we/US/Uz and Iz............ again........


*Jews have had some VERY BAD experiences with "dentists" ............. lose gold teeth

**Peoples change...... Afghanistan was once a Buddhist nation ruled by King Mahinda......... We/US were once a small republic that mostly wanted to trade peacefully but soon got into Barbarous problems...... Then we were a flawed but successful liberator........... What are we now........ Republic grading into......... Happened before............ Small Greek & Italian towns........ got beaten up by some people with a lot of Gall .......

[AzariLoveIran]

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Don't worry, America's chickens will come home to roost. Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

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Thank you Very Much for your post, Zack Morris ......

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Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

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And partially also inherent in the often evil memes of others in the world............

Recalling again what happened right at the beginning of the Republic........

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

Had to pay tribute to the 2 legged Sons of Bitches until we/US/Uz were strong enough to do something about it...........

That S.O.B. Tobias Lear queered our pitch at Tripoli more than a little ........... still a victory......... but not a completely satisfying one .....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_Wa ... d_overview

But when the Southeast Asian branch of this meme tried it, Andy Jackson did it right...... "Chastise sharply"........ Milo Doctrine....... Break and Leave.... Shoot the pirates........ Burn the Pirate port to the ground........ Repeat as necessary .......... Wash & rinse hands.......

No STUPID George W. Bush nation building & Democracy teaching....... Just Break and Leave.......

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Interesting, monster_gardener

I can understand you upset that those SOB pirates from Tripoli, claiming "It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise."

Yes, really bad

and what was the result of that action by those pirates ?

not much

so

I hope

you can understand

how disgusted and mad Iranians were AND are

when democratically elected, blue blood (from a 300 yrs noble dynasty) Iranian prime minister Dr. Mossadegh
was overthrown by CIA to steal for next 25 yrs Iranian Oil and in the meantime kill millions of Iranian partiot and nationalist by CIA/Mossad trained murderers, Savak

or democratically elected Aliende .. same in Argentina

and

later Saddam killing 1 million Iranians by West supplying all the arms and bio germ

well

Monster

you still think Iran does not deserve Nuclear Bomb

You still think Zionist that doing genocide on Palestinians, even Pope saying that is a concentration camp, and Carter 2nd it , you still think Zionist deserve a nuclear bomb and Iran not ?

BTW , with due respect, Monster, why you think a power who has dropped 2 nuclear bomb on civilians can say to a nation that has not attacked anybody last 500 yrs can not have nuclear weapon ? ?

BYW, why is President Obama associating with that POS Cameron ? ?

Did not Brits fool Eisenhower to overthrow Mossadegh ?

What the genuflect is business of Brits and Syria ?

Is Iran or Syria meddling in norther Island dispute with Brits ?

look, Monster

old good days behind us

you see how with small things, Koran burning or 16 woman/children killing in Afghanistan, western future can be sealed in that space ? ?

People of that space, Iranians, Arabs, Central Asians and and , are no idiots, they know western history of last 300 yrs in that space

American military basis can not exist within (politely said) not friendly population

They will fall one by one

Bahrain 5th fleet base already on unfriendly territory

.

There have been other malicious memes....... Nazism thought that the US was weak, half Jewish, Half black........... Declared war on US...........

Managed to reform them.......... More or less.......... Some Greeks disagree

Communism was out to conquer the world for Socialism similar to the way Islam is out to conquer the world for Allah.......by whatever means necessary.........
Lot's of close calls on this one..........

We/US do cause problems for ourselves ......... But they often hate us because it is part of their nature as well as anything we do.............

They hate & kill each other too....... Which is a VERY GOOD thing........ A major reason the Nazi's were beaten........

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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.

Not saying Iran not "deserve" to have nuke............ "Deserve" not matter.......... Survive matter

Saying Iran may get itself and much of Northern Hemisphere killed trying to get one.............

IMVHO not by US......

Iran likely to get attacked and maybe nuked by Israel who used to be ally of Iran ..........

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Look, Monster

Iran not afraid of anybody .. Ayatollahs lying they afraid of G_d , they not even afraid of G_d

so, who the genuflect is Israel ?

If Israel attacks Iran, you can bet your last dime that Israel will cease to exist no matter how long and what it takes .. Iranians like barracuda, once they bite, they will not let go .. Iranians, you talk to any Iranian, they still looking forward to settle account with Omar after 1400 yrs

Iran can take a few nuclear hits and still stay the same

Can Israel take one ? ?

We have in Iran bigger pistachio farms than whole Israel all together

and Iran is not what you see .. Iran has 400+ million population .. and strategic dept of 3.5 million square kilometers

Israeli know this

and

Israeli know that Iran has no animosity with Israel, there is no reason for war between Iran and Israel

and

most important

For what Iran is working towards, things must fall in place by default, consensus, peacefully

Meaning

future of Israel will not be decided by military means

Either Israel will find it's place in New Middle East .. or Israeli will close shop and move to Canada (mostly) and US and Europe

Notion present form of Israel will last, is, kidding yourself

Israeli know this

So, nobody can scare Iran from Baby Satan .. Iran pulling the chair off Dadi Satan ass

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Iran & Israel even work on missile together............. right before dirty AyaToilet Khomeini take over...........

But Mad mad mullahs ruin it all with Satan talk........ with "rain fire down on Israel" talk...........

Jews not trust people who say that......... even if were once friendly........... **

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true,

Rocket technology Iran now perfecting, came from Germans (Germans the best in the world of machinery technology) to Americans (Werner von Braun) and Russians and Americans gave it to Israel and Israeli gave all (at shah time) to Iranian military industry

So, BS talk that North Korea giving this and that to Iran all rubbish Zionist talk

and

Iran has top top engineers and smart people

American NASA is overpopulated with Iranian engineers

and

you saying Iran and Israel should be friend again or will be, is not realizing what all this is about

Iran's power comes from it's constituency .. Iran's constituency are the disfranchised humans on planet earth .. those people are with Iran because they consider Iran fighting the evil

If Iran, shakes hand with present Zionist gang, if so, than Iran would lose it's constituency

Israel, Chaney, Giuliani, Mc Cain, Hitler, Tchingiz, Attila, Churchill and and and, they have same constituency

Iran is not on that page

that is why you guys losing .. things have changed in case America has not realized

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BYW, why is President Obama associating with that POS Cameron ? ?

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Don't know........... Can work at finding out.......... AIUI Obama not like Brits............
But not sure have time........ Maybe Alexis knows.........

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Look, Monster

World looks differently at America and Brits

In history, Brits have killed and enslaved the most human beings .. still at it

Poor Hitler .. poor Hitler .. poor Adolf only got a bad name

Brits invented the word NAZI .. concentration camp ? ? Brits invented it


Hitler talking about Brits :


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Again I say: what happened to Mossadegh was WRONG..........

Maybe Iran get apology with peace treaty ... Paul or Obama...... Obama good at apologizing.......

Something I like about Obama even though apologies seem to not do much good so far ......

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imagine, American revolution, Iran would send a special units, they would arrest John Trumbull and replace with Mullah Omar and introduce Sharia Law .. or American civil war, Iran would send a special unit and supply arms to "11 southern slave states" declaring them "democracy loving faction" .. and assassinate and bomb Abraham Lincoln

and after doing all this (and ruining 100s of year of American generations) .. well , after all this , Iran would just say (or not say) sorry



Look, You guys had some dispute with Hitler, why should Iranian infrastructure pay for it ? ?

Iran demanding "Wieder-gut-machung"

but

Iran not only not getting it, but is threatened with bombing and is called names .. and terrorist

who you think is the terrorist, Monster ?


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Don't worry, America's chickens will come home to roost. Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

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Thank you Very Much for your post, Zack Morris ......

.

Americans will have to own up to the fact that the hatred and violence directed toward them is partly of their own making.

.

And partially also inherent in the often evil memes of others in the world............

Recalling again what happened right at the beginning of the Republic........

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

Had to pay tribute to the 2 legged Sons of Bitches until we/US/Uz were strong enough to do something about it...........

That S.O.B. Tobias Lear queered our pitch at Tripoli more than a little ........... still a victory......... but not a completely satisfying one .....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_Wa ... d_overview

But when the Southeast Asian branch of this meme tried it, Andy Jackson did it right...... "Chastise sharply"........ Milo Doctrine....... Break and Leave.... Shoot the pirates........ Burn the Pirate port to the ground........ Repeat as necessary .......... Wash & rinse hands.......

No STUPID George W. Bush nation building & Democracy teaching....... Just Break and Leave.......

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Interesting, monster_gardener

I can understand you upset that those SOB pirates from Tripoli, claiming "It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise."

Yes, really bad

and what was the result of that action by those pirates ?

not much

so

I hope

you can understand

how disgusted and mad Iranians were AND are

when democratically elected, blue blood (from a 300 yrs noble dynasty) Iranian prime minister Dr. Mossadegh
was overthrown by CIA to steal for next 25 yrs Iranian Oil and in the meantime kill millions of Iranian partiot and nationalist by CIA/Mossad trained murderers, Savak

or democratically elected Aliende .. same in Argentina

and

later Saddam killing 1 million Iranians by West supplying all the arms and bio germ

well

Monster

you still think Iran does not deserve Nuclear Bomb

You still think Zionist that doing genocide on Palestinians, even Pope saying that is a concentration camp, and Carter 2nd it , you still think Zionist deserve a nuclear bomb and Iran not ?

BTW , with due respect, Monster, why you think a power who has dropped 2 nuclear bomb on civilians can say to a nation that has not attacked anybody last 500 yrs can not have nuclear weapon ? ?

BYW, why is President Obama associating with that POS Cameron ? ?

Did not Brits fool Eisenhower to overthrow Mossadegh ?

What the genuflect is business of Brits and Syria ?

Is Iran or Syria meddling in norther Island dispute with Brits ?

look, Monster

old good days behind us

you see how with small things, Koran burning or 16 woman/children killing in Afghanistan, western future can be sealed in that space ? ?

People of that space, Iranians, Arabs, Central Asians and and , are no idiots, they know western history of last 300 yrs in that space

American military basis can not exist within (politely said) not friendly population

They will fall one by one

Bahrain 5th fleet base already on unfriendly territory

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There have been other malicious memes....... Nazism thought that the US was weak, half Jewish, Half black........... Declared war on US...........

Managed to reform them.......... More or less.......... Some Greeks disagree

Communism was out to conquer the world for Socialism similar to the way Islam is out to conquer the world for Allah.......by whatever means necessary.........
Lot's of close calls on this one..........

We/US do cause problems for ourselves ......... But they often hate us because it is part of their nature as well as anything we do.............

They hate & kill each other too....... Which is a VERY GOOD thing........ A major reason the Nazi's were beaten........

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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.

Not saying Iran not "deserve" to have nuke............ "Deserve" not matter.......... Survive matter

Saying Iran may get itself and much of Northern Hemisphere killed trying to get one.............

IMVHO not by US......

Iran likely to get attacked and maybe nuked by Israel who used to be ally of Iran ..........

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Look, Monster

Iran not afraid of anybody .. Ayatollahs lying they afraid of G_d , they not even afraid of G_d

so, who the genuflect is Israel ?

If Israel attacks Iran, you can bet your last dime that Israel will cease to exist no matter how long and what it takes .. Iranians like barracuda, once they bite, they will not let go .. Iranians, you talk to any Iranian, they still looking forward to settle account with Omar after 1400 yrs

Iran can take a few nuclear hits and still stay the same

Can Israel take one ? ?

We have in Iran bigger pistachio farms than whole Israel all together

and Iran is not what you see .. Iran has 400+ million population .. and strategic dept of 3.5 million square kilometers

Israeli know this

and

Israeli know that Iran has no animosity with Israel, there is no reason for war between Iran and Israel

and

most important

For what Iran is working towards, things must fall in place by default, consensus, peacefully

Meaning

future of Israel will not be decided by military means

Either Israel will find it's place in New Middle East .. or Israeli will close shop and move to Canada (mostly) and US and Europe

Notion present form of Israel will last, is, kidding yourself

Israeli know this

So, nobody can scare Iran from Baby Satan .. Iran pulling the chair off Dadi Satan ass

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Iran & Israel even work on missile together............. right before dirty AyaToilet Khomeini take over...........

But Mad mad mullahs ruin it all with Satan talk........ with "rain fire down on Israel" talk...........

Jews not trust people who say that......... even if were once friendly........... **

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true,

Rocket technology Iran now perfecting, came from Germans (Germans the best in the world of machinery technology) to Americans (Werner von Braun) and Russians and Americans gave it to Israel and Israeli gave all (at shah time) to Iranian military industry

So, BS talk that North Korea giving this and that to Iran all rubbish Zionist talk

and

Iran has top top engineers and smart people

American NASA is overpopulated with Iranian engineers

and

you saying Iran and Israel should be friend again or will be, is not realizing what all this is about

Iran's power comes from it's constituency .. Iran's constituency are the disfranchised humans on planet earth .. those people are with Iran because they consider Iran fighting the evil

If Iran, shakes hand with present Zionist gang, if so, than Iran would lose it's constituency

Israel, Chaney, Giuliani, Mc Cain, Hitler, Tchingiz, Attila, Churchill and and and, they have same constituency

Iran is not on that page

that is why you guys losing .. things have changed in case America has not realized

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BYW, why is President Obama associating with that POS Cameron ? ?

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Don't know........... Can work at finding out.......... AIUI Obama not like Brits............
But not sure have time........ Maybe Alexis knows.........

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Look, Monster

World looks differently at America and Brits

In history, Brits have killed and enslaved the most human beings .. still at it

Poor Hitler .. poor Hitler .. poor Adolf only got a bad name

Brits invented the word NAZI .. concentration camp ? ? Brits invented it


Hitler talking about Brits :


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Again I say: what happened to Mossadegh was WRONG..........

Maybe Iran get apology with peace treaty ... Paul or Obama...... Obama good at apologizing.......

Something I like about Obama even though apologies seem to not do much good so far ......

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imagine, American revolution, Iran would send a special units, they would arrest John Trumbull and replace with Mullah Omar and introduce Sharia Law .. or American civil war, Iran would send a special unit and supply arms to "11 southern slave states" declaring them "democracy loving faction" .. and assassinate and bomb Abraham Lincoln

and after doing all this (and ruining 100s of year of American generations) .. well , after all this , Iran would just say (or not say) sorry



Look, You guys had some dispute with Hitler, why should Iranian infrastructure pay for it ? ?

Iran demanding "Wieder-gut-machung"

but

Iran not only not getting it, but is threatened with bombing and is called names .. and terrorist

who you think is the terrorist, Monster ?


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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.

Look, Monster

Iran not afraid of anybody .. Ayatollahs lying they afraid of G_d , they not even afraid of G_d

There is a word for people like that.......... Christians are not supposed to call others/brothers that name.........

But AFAIK I can call myself that.......... I am a Fool ............



And I am afraid of G_d............. Probably not afraid enough..........

so, who the genuflect is Israel ?

IIRC According to the Bible.. OT/Tanakh & NT, G_d's VERY peculiar people

Some of them are almost as weird as I am

According to sources, they are people with the capability to make effectively uninhabitable Iran, the ME, perhaps the Northern Hemisphere, perhaps the world.......

A traumatized people, don't trust as much as once did.... Not just Hitler either ... determined NOT to be good little victims again...... Whose hero is now Samson....... Whose shrine for what not to do is Masada...

If Israel attacks Iran, you can bet your last dime that Israel will cease to exist no matter how long and what it takes .. Iranians like barracuda, once they bite, they will not let go .. Iranians, you talk to any Iranian, they still looking forward to settle account with Omar after 1400 yrs

Little is certain but You are most likely right......... That makes it worse...... If Iran is holding a grudge against Omar AND Purim.............

The grudgees are likely to prep and do.........


I have problems with grudges too......... One good bad thing about age, I forget more and more so forgiving is easier........

If I am not reminded...........

Iran can take a few nuclear hits and still stay the same

You may be right if the nukes are not salted.........

And Israel has more than a few............

Can Israel take one ? ?

Maybe....... but IMVHO probably not

Depends on size, type & placement......

Even if not that many not killed....... might make Israel as constituted uneconomical..........

Maybe Penguins walk around in lead suits...........

But saner Jews come to America (or Canada as you say) or anywhere they can get to especially in the Southern Hemisphere .......

I'm getting prepared to receive refugees.........

Palestinians go elsewhere if their Arab brothers will take them in

Or maybe have to go to radioactive Iran

Maybe Israel turned into World's first Orion Will Rise Spaceport .............. Jacob's Ladder for the human race ..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Or ... pulsion%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob%27s_Ladder

Or less happily into the World's nuclear waste disposal site........ Penguins can run Candu Nuclear Reactors on nuclear waste burning fuel cycle....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANDU_reactor#Fuel_cycles

We have in Iran bigger pistachio farms than whole Israel all together

I like pistachios. Also Persian pistachio wood was important in the discovery of copper/bronze metallurgy IIRC........

Would be shame to have such a historic, cultural place destroyed because of malignant Muslim meme/Persian Dreams of Irredental Glory

and Iran is not what you see .. Iran has 400+ million population .. and strategic dept of 3.5 million square kilometers

Israeli know this

So if you were an Israeli Penguin or otherwise determined to stay in your "Holy Land" under your own laws, paying tribute/jizya to none, what would you do if you thought people who called you "Satan" and talked about raining down fire on you were developing nukes.......

And you had the means however awful of stopping them.........

The small folk are often the more dangerous........ Know that cannot take much punishment.......... strike first.... hard........ sometimes deadly......
Use knives and guns........ not fists...........

Israeli know that Iran has no animosity with Israel, there is no reason for war between Iran and Israel

Please, Azari................. ROFLMAO.......... Please.............

That is such ......... with all due respect......a statement with major problems with "reality" that I am afraid you may be "a lion"

Satan........... Rain down fire on you......... want justice/revenge for Purim ~2500 years ago .......... unfavorable comparisons with Hitler etc.......

and

most important

For what Iran is working towards, things must fall in place by default, consensus, peacefully

Meaning

future of Israel will not be decided by military means

I hope and pray you are correct.........

Either Israel will find it's place in New Middle East .. or Israeli will close shop and move to Canada (mostly) and US and Europe

Have read similar..................

That presumes there will be an inhabitable "New Middle East"............

But as I said, my family is preparing to receive our friends in Israel as refugees........ presuming we are still here.... and have not left for Southern Hemisphere.......

Notion present form of Israel will last, is, kidding yourself

Israeli know this

Change is inevitable........ Even if the threat of Iran is suppressed, Israel and Uz have internal problems to deal with......

For Israel....... The Penguins....... Maybe my friends want to leave anyway if those birds ride high............ Increasing Arab Israeli population........ One suggestion I have is for Judaism to become a proselytizing faith as it was about 2000 years ago... Use the scheme that worked for the Muslims when they rode high...... lower taxes, privileges for converts and harsh punishment for action taken against apostates........

And as always, get that space program in gear......

So, nobody can scare Iran from Baby Satan ..

You have been warned of the danger ........ This Watchman has done his duty........

Ezekiel 33:1-33 ESV

The word of the Lord came to me: “Son of man, speak to your people and say to them, If I bring the sword upon a land, and the people of the land take a man from among them, and make him their watchman, and if he sees the sword coming upon the land and blows the trumpet and warns the people, then if anyone who hears the sound of the trumpet does not take warning, and the sword comes and takes him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. He heard the sound of the trumpet and did not take warning; his blood shall be upon himself. But if he had taken warning, he would have saved his life. ...

Iran pulling the chair off Dadi Satan ass

Maybe................ Maybe so.

But AIUI "Dadi Satan" is the one trying to restrain...... Worried about gas prices, re-election, even like sound of Muslim "Call to Prayer"..

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Iran & Israel even work on missile together............. right before dirty AyaToilet Khomeini take over...........

But Mad mad mullahs ruin it all with Satan talk........ with "rain fire down on Israel" talk...........

Jews not trust people who say that......... even if were once friendly........... **

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true,

Rocket technology Iran now perfecting, came from Germans (Germans the best in the world of machinery technology) to Americans (Werner von Braun) and Russians and Americans gave it to Israel and Israeli gave all (at shah time) to Iranian military industry

So, BS talk that North Korea giving this and that to Iran all rubbish Zionist talk

Glad we agree.........

But.......

It would have been VERY CLEVER for Iran to rent a Nuke test site from the Norkers...... Plausible Deniablity until ready to act......

and

Iran has top top engineers and smart people

No doubt........

American NASA is overpopulated with Iranian engineers

and

Doubtless unemployed Amerian space engineers might agree

you saying Iran and Israel should be friend again or will be, is not realizing what all this is about

You may be right but I disagree....... This is about Survival.............

Iran's power comes from it's constituency .. Iran's constituency are the disfranchised humans on planet earth .. those people are with Iran because they consider Iran fighting the evil

So you say..... Remains to be seen if you or Ibrahim are right about which way the ethnic & national winds blow.......

Remembering a Uiger young man computer whiz kid...... Like Spoke English like a Valley Girl

If Iran, shakes hand with present Zionist gang, if so, than Iran would lose it's constituency

Not have to shake hands....... Just make peace..........

If not....... may lose constituency to blast & radiation sickness..........

Israel, Chaney, Giuliani, Mc Cain, Hitler, Tchingiz, Attila, Churchill and and and, they have same constituency

No........ Not really........... IMVHO only a 2 sinners beyond the usual in human kings and princes on that list for sure....

Only Hitler and Tchingiz near total evil for sure..........

Attilla ....... maybe .......... maybe not.......

http://www.amazon.com/Leadership-Secret ... 624&sr=8-1


Modern Israel not on that list YET......... Otherwise no Druze or Israeli Arabs in Knesset........ How many Jewish members of Reichstag under Hitler.......
Otherwise be at least 6 million fewer Palestinians ......

Iran is not on that page

Not YET......... But IMVHO you are working on it.............

that is why you guys losing .. things have changed in case America has not realized

I think that most American have realized that Bush dream of a New World Order has turned out to be a nightmare......

Especially the Bush W. bit about nation building & democracy for demos who are more interested in Sharia..............

Canadians are better at building.........

Holmes on Homes.........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_on_Homes

Lately we Americans/Uz, like Mike Rowe , are better at debuilding.... enemies .. Andy Jackson & the Pirates ... Milo Time....... Break & leave......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rowe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Jobs

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BYW, why is President Obama associating with that POS Cameron ? ?

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Don't know........... Can work at finding out.......... AIUI Obama not like Brits............
But not sure have time........ Maybe Alexis knows.........

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Look, Monster

World looks differently at America and Brits

In history, Brits have killed and enslaved the most human beings .. still at it

Maybe......... We Uz are sinners too........

Think that many regard Uz as worse than Brits....... Kept slaves longer.... Brits are politer.....

We're Gum chewing Half Black Half Jewish Redneck Cowboy Gangster Doctors .........

You can bet the "House" on that..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_%28TV_series%29

Poor Hitler .. poor Hitler .. poor Adolf only got a bad name

Azari.......... Sympathy for Hitler may be worse PR wise than "Sympathy for the Devil" .........

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IMVHO Dolph doesn't Deserve it.........

Though if I were playing Blood & Dust, my Iron Dream as Blood might be to give him an art scholarship or send him to Uz to illustrate SF books and magazines.

http://www.uchronia.net/bib.cgi/label.h ... zelagameof

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Dream

Brits invented the word NAZI

OK........ Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party ....... NSDAP ............"Nas-dap" maybe

Nazi "Nox-see" might easier to pronounce ...... Maybe not........

Nox see .......... See the night....... See the dark....... Hmmmmmmmmmm

.. concentration camp ? ? Brits invented it

FWIW the Wiki Tiki says that the Russian Bear get credit for this invention along with the many others they claim ****

Says that we/Uz had them too.........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrat ... tion_camps

The Brits did have concentration camps in the Boer War..... They were very bad but when the details are examined, the Brits are not in the same league as the Germans (not just Nazis........... see below)....... The Brits were not out to exterminate the Boers utterly as a policy...... Brits protested against the camps and were NOT sent to camps themselves.... Eventually got them stopped.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boe ... .931902.29

Now as far as Extermination camps go, the Germans, NOT the Nazis, do get the dishonor of inventing them.........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Isla ... ation_Camp

Hitler talking about Brits :


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Do you have a transcript preferable in English?.......

Can do German but not up to Despicable Dolph speech

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Again I say: what happened to Mossadegh was WRONG..........

Maybe Iran get apology with peace treaty ... Paul or Obama...... Obama good at apologizing.......

Something I like about Obama even though apologies seem to not do much good so far ......

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imagine, American revolution, Iran would send a special units, they would arrest John Trumbull and replace with Mullah Omar and introduce Sharia Law .. or American civil war, Iran would send a special unit and supply arms to "11 southern slave states" declaring them "democracy loving faction" .. and assassinate and bomb Abraham Lincoln

and after doing all this (and ruining 100s of year of American generations) .. well , after all this , Iran would just say (or not say) sorry

Impossible or at least highly improbable........ Trumbull was a portrait artist...........
Not sure a Salafi slime like Omar could paint a passable portrait to save his soul........ or rather to damn it.........

But more seriously........ Apology is baby step....... Maybe once mad mullahs gone....... more can be done.........

Iran needs a few baby steps with Uz and especially Iz.......... But I'm not going to worry about that...... Survival of Human Race more important...

Look, You guys had some dispute with Hitler, why should Iranian infrastructure pay for it ? ?

You are missing the point Azari.

You should not threaten and insult with a nation with salted nukes and not expect trouble........

That would be as dumb or dumber than George W. Bush ..............

Especially not a nation of ~7 million that within memory lost 6 million because last time it didn't take the vile threats of it's enemy seriously enough.......

Not a nation were Samson is alive and well as a dominant Meme...........

"Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow—it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?"[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Don't know about you, Azari........ But that scares me..............

Iran demanding "Wieder-gut-machung"

but

Iran not only not getting it, but is threatened with bombing and is called names .. and terrorist

who you think is the terrorist, Monster ?

Iran, as you have admitted above has since the rise of Khomeini been doing the same thing....... and is likely to get itself destroyed for it..........


OK, Azari........ Maybe Monster/Orko is mostly wrong.......... Happens a lot.........

Let's say that there is only 1 chance in 6 that Israel will attack & nuke Iran........

Only about a 17% chance......... Not bad? ............ You like?

If you like those odds for Iran, I have another less dangerous game for you to play.......... you take a 6 shooter revolver and load it with only one bullet....... Spin the cylinder and point it at your head or something/someone you love.......... Pull the trigger....... If gun not fire you have won.....

The game is called Russian Roulette.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_roulette

If you/Iran lose, Russian Bears may get to exploit ruins of Iran after the radioactivity decays enough...... Or Chinese Dragons.........

Naw.......... I'm being way too optimistic........ If the world is lucky, Oz Kangaroos or Tasmanian Devils do that in a few centuries or millennia........



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look, Monster

You misunderstand Israel situation

True, agree with you .. If dropping a few nuclear bomb on Iran would give Israel the Jewish home they want, Zionist for sure would do it (am on the record here saying Zionism not better than Nazism)

But, doing that would guaranty not only no Jewish homeland forever, but would nix Jews for next 1000 yrs

but

Israel to fit into New Middle East under Persian leadership will ensure a Jewish state to last 1000 yrs, like last Jewish state we had under Persian empire (Golden age of Israel)

so

Monster

if you were Rhubarb, which one would you chose ?

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You should not threaten and insult with a nation with salted nukes and not expect trouble........
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you demonstrate very convincingly why Iran should built a nuclear bomb, which, according to NYT, all Iranians want.

and

I bring Hitler in play not because he a good guy, but to show Brits (and others) either worst or not better

in that clip Hitler says same thing about Brits as I am saying .. and he is right

Brits were and are 100 times worst than Hitler .. and, Hitler lasted only 10 yrs, Brits @ it last 300 yrs

Hitler did much same as Brits did and doing, but without sugar coating

Hitler killed people, Brits enslave for generations

and

said and you laughed , but Iran and Israel have no involvement to lead to animosity

Notion without Iran Arabs would have signed peace with Zionist is to fool American Joe

Iran support & protection of Lebanese Shia is not targeted, main purpose, against Israel .. Shia of Lebanon, real, effective, majority in Lebanon, were fucked by west .. their rights were denied by west, faked census.

and

Iran just verbally supports Pali .. Palestinians were never Iranian friends, Arafat sided with Saddam like all other Arabs

so

in reality , only friend Israel has in all that space, people as friend, are Iranians



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starting 1980, can post clips, all Israeli PM, Shamir, Sharon, Begin and and and daily ritual, said anything you would find in the book to Iranians .. threatened and and and

Iran just ignored

now

since 2000

Iran too would answer BS with BS .. garbage in garbage out

and ? ?

Rhubarb insulted ? ?



come on,

look

Monster

have said many times

Rhubarb elbowing-in will not work

if Israeli want a homeland, they must talk with leaders and architect of the New Middle East .. Iran, Turkey (maybe Egypt)

but

Israel is not on that page

still thinking killing Arab woman and children will give them Jewish homeland

it will not, with or without Iran

and

Hitler, Tchingiz, Attila lasted a few yrs only .. others on the list (and a few more), their school and action lasting 100s of yrs

Did Attila kill more or Henry Kissinger/Nixon ? ?

Probably even Tchingiz killed less

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to wrap it up,

If west has an interest to have a successful New Middle East , if so, than West must accommodate Iran and Iranian legitimate interest and aspiration

If so, in that case Iran would be a bridge between Russian/Chinese and western interests .. that would include accommodation of an Jewish state within Middle East

If west still on the Churchill/Queen Victoria train, if so, there will be a war and west is going to lose that war, leading to new realities similar WW 2 lead to new world and reality

Israel no player in this, just a footnote


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