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This is bad bad omen. European people not only loosing their democratic vote and sovereignty to this bureaucratic monster in Brussels.. but also the control over their own money by coups like these in Romania.

In the UK it is not only cranky libertarians like the UKIP who see the danger. Here an excellent piece, a full copy-paste from a left-wing perspective:
John King: The left wing case for leaving the EU

Supporters of the EU sneer “Little Englander” at those with a different opinion, but most of the arguments against membership are left-leaning and liberal.

Despite the denials by our political and media elite, the most important issue of the 2015 election was Britain’s membership of the European Union. Nearly four million votes went to Ukip, a party that has been consistently abused and dismissed by our controllers, with much of that support coming from former Labour voters, while big numbers of people backed the little-loved Conservatives.

Both parties offered referendums on Britain leaving the EU – Ukip powerfully, the Tories reluctantly. It is not hard to work out why they did so well, yet there is still little acknowledgement of this fact from the establishment. An arrogant refusal to listen to the public has left Labour and the Liberal Democrats in tatters. Nick Clegg could moan about “identity” politics in the election’s aftermath, but this matters to the majority of people.

Our membership of the EU undermined the major debates and warped most of the policies being put forward in the build-up to the election. The EU will influence the future of the NHS just as it helped smooth Tory privatisation of the Post Office and the organisational break-up of the railways; it is in tune with austerity and drives a larger and more deadly version in the eurozone; it escalates problems linked to housing, work, wages and education; creates worry and stirs up anger and threatens people’s sense of self. A lazy acceptance of establishment propaganda and a fear of being branded “xenophobic” have silenced many liberals and left-wingers. And yet the EU is driven by big business. This is a very corporate coup.

It is essential to understand where the EU is heading. The mission? To create a centralised superstate. As the former European Commission president José Manuel Barroso said in 2007: “. . . I like to compare the EU as a creation to the organisation of empire. We have the dimension of empire.” While there have been idealists involved and progressive laws made along the way, at its core it is undemocratic and distant, a threat to all those living in its shadow. However sweet the propaganda, it is a tool for multinationals, another part of the globalisation process.

A majority of the British population is either opposed to or sceptical about our inclusion in the EU, and yet any serious discussion of what it represents and where it is leading is near enough impossible. Instead we have McCarthy-like campaigns directed at those who have a different vision for Britain and the other member countries.

However, decades of pro-EU spin have failed to convince the mass of working people of its worth; the only reason their opposition has been so restrained is the secrecy and speed of the takeover. This has occurred across generations, a slow-motion transfer of control, driven by the rich and powerful. Our leaders are complicit, know where their futures rest. There are careers to protect and promote, fortunes to be made. The feelings of the wider society are ignored.

The idea put across by its promoters, that the EU is somehow synonymous with “Europe”, is nonsense and yet this use of language has become commonplace. We are told that to be anti-EU is to be “anti-European”, but, in reality, to oppose the EU makes you pro-European. If Europe is its people and cultures then it is surely better that France, Greece, Poland and every other member state becomes a proper democracy again. If the main legacy of the European Enlightenment was the collectivisation of political power in the hands of the masses, then the EU model is the antithesis of this: centralising decision-taking in the hands of an unaccountable technocratic elite.

A single European nation suits the US government, its multinationals and its military. One leader is a lot easier to deal with than many. The same goes for a single currency. This is clear in moves by the EU and the US to impose the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), which will allow the corporations of both blocs the chance to exploit each other’s markets, smoothing out “obstacles” in the process. The NHS would be targeted by US health-care companies and trade union rights threatened. Negotiations to bring in TTIP have been taking place in secret. There is no voting involved, no pretence at democracy, little proper coverage by the media. The main parties are broadly supportive. With TTIP comes the Investor-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) system, whereby business can take governments to court if its profits are infringed upon. This is mind-blowing stuff, but our politicians say nothing.

The media tell us that the Tories are anti-EU while Labour and the Lib Dems are fighting their narrow-mindedness, and Ukip is dismissed as a far-right group bordering on the fascist. This is bubblegum politics. Little Europeans sneer “Little Englander” at those with a different opinion, peddling stereotypes, unwilling to consider the bigger arguments.

That it was the Conservatives who took Britain into a six-nation EEC in 1973 is dismissed. This was a betrayal of the Commonwealth, which a mere 28 years earlier had fought with us against two of these countries, the then fascist Germany and Italy. Commonwealth economies suffered as a result. Prime Minister Ted Heath insisted that the Common Market was no more than a trade arrangement, but a large chunk of the population was outraged and saw it for what it was, and Heath would later admit he had lied about its long-term goal. Labour was socialist at this point and along with the trade unions naturally opposed the Tories. Despite some big talk, Margaret Thatcher and John Major did not take us out, while Tony Blair would have joined the eurozone if he’d had his way. Backing the EU because the Tories are supposedly against it is pathetic. The EU is not a party issue. It is much more important.

David Cameron is softly pro-EU but has been forced into holding a referendum by rebel elements in his party. Ed Miliband was also a firm supporter, his own sceptical backbenchers keeping quiet for fear of being branded right-wing by the Labour Party’s thought police.

Last year saw the death of two genuinely left-wing figures within a matter of days in Tony Benn and Bob Crow. These were honest men who refused to bend to the group mind. They were idealists and knew where the EU was leading us. In later life Benn was patronised as a well-meaning crank when he tried to talk seriously about the EU. Crow died young and his dream of a left-wing, anti-EU party will be harder to achieve now he is gone. But this is what Britain needs. Urgently.

The move towards a European state is a long way down the line and yet even this simple truth is denied by those whose careers are sewn into the process. According to House of Commons Library research, if one counts regulations as well as directives, half of all UK laws are derived from Brussels, measures that cannot be reversed once passed; but if even one law is made outside parliament, then that is a huge abuse of power.

The EU has a president and a militarised police force in EUROGENDFOR, is pushing for its own army, and has helped stir up the crisis in Ukraine with its expansionism. Its single currency has caused untold misery for tens of millions of working people across Europe, yet there is no apology, just an arrogant demand for greater powers. The Greeks are branded lazy and forced to cut services in return for more loans.

If there is a referendum on our EU membership in this new parliament, the propaganda unleashed by the establishment will be unparalleled. From the Guardian to the Times, from the BBC to Rupert Murdoch, our masters will close ranks as withdrawal is deemed a disaster. But would Britain be damaged? For a start, we would save roughly £10bn a year in our net handout to the EU. This is a huge sum, which, if used properly, would benefit those who actually pay these taxes. The idea that our neighbours would no longer trade with us is simply untrue. Trade would continue and we would be able to deal with the rest of the world more freely. Only about 15 per cent of British GDP is accounted for by our exports to the rest of the EU and this percentage is falling as the eurozone stagnates. The future for Britain lies in building ever better trade relations with the economically expanding parts of the world, such as the Commonwealth countries. Britain would be liberated.

Most of the arguments against EU membership are left-leaning and liberal. Ukip has done so well because it tells the truth about the EU, even if some of its tactics and emphases put people off. That it can pull in Labour voters despite its Thatcherite, non-patriotic economics is revealing. Just as depressing has been the cowardice of the so-called independent parties. The Greens, the SNP and Plaid Cymru exist to promote localism and the devolution of power, yet they refuse to challenge an EU that is about the centralising of power.

The Scottish referendum quickly became about money rather than identity, yet few talked seriously about the madness of a standalone Scotland re-entering the EU as a new applicant and adopting the euro. Why would the SNP want to gain independence and then hand it over to a larger, more remote body, where it would have less say than now in how it runs its own affairs? Why would it want to have even less control of its economy? You have only to look at Sinn Fein’s attempts to keep Ireland out of the euro for a comparison. The whole debate about Scotland leaving the UK seems pretty pointless if the SNP’s willingness to join the EU isn’t challenged. If Scotland had its own currency and rejected Brussels it would make sense, but leave the UK and join the EU instead?

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Open borders are essential to the EU’s single state. It makes for a more mobile (often cheaper) workforce on one level, allows business and the wealthy easy access on another. It will also change voting patterns, as there will come a point when elections are going to be open to whoever lives in a country at a given time. There has always been movement of people and there always will be. Leaving the EU will not stop this, just take us away from the Fortress Europe model.

Ukip targets poorer workers, warning of the threat to working-class jobs and wages in the same way certain trade unions do, but it ignores “high-end” immigration and the negative effect this has had on the lives of the everyday person, especially in and around London. This probably hindered the party in last month’s election, limiting the swing from Labour. Everything we have has been put up for sale and the rich and powerful of the world are making a fortune at our expense. House prices are driven up and new properties sold as investments rather than homes. In large areas of London local people have been driven out, their culture erased. This creates huge ripples that spread through the rest of the country. It is natural to feel angry at this unfairness.

We are continually told that Britain’s muted opposition to the EU is somehow a quirk that shows us to be intolerant, but we are one of the most open-minded countries in the world. And the idea that every European is happy being in the EU is untrue. Most are resigned, feel more powerless and despondent than we do. The need for a left-wing opposition to the EU should be taken care of by the Labour Party, but it lost its nerve when Thatcher was in power, along with elements in the trade union movement, selling its soul to Brussels in return for some positive legislation. Then it was hijacked and turned into New Labour. Its collapse in the election is a continuation of this thread. Too many voters see it as hypocritical, unpatriotic, politically correct and in the hands of an aloof, wealthy clique.

Most important in all this is people’s sense of identity. This is seldom mentioned by anyone with a public voice, perhaps for fear of being branded “racist”. The less you have, maybe the more your identity matters, and the powerful elite do not have the right to sell this off to the EU or anyone else. Our controllers, tucked away in their big houses, worshipping money either openly or from behind their fake-liberal lectures, do not understand or care about this, and yet it is in the mass population that the real integration has always occurred, where diversity isn’t measured by the colour of your skin. This is ongoing, part of the British tradition. It is no shame to want to preserve your culture.

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During this year’s election campaign Tony Blair argued that the people should not be given the chance to vote in an EU referendum because, in effect, we could not be trusted to make the “sensible choice”. His elitist questioning of the intelligence of the electorate is no different from those 19th-century reactionary Tories who argued on similar grounds that the franchise should not be extended to women and the working class. Most within our political and media classes and big business seem to think the same way as Blair, want the EU issue sidelined, ruled off-limits for democratic debate.

The EU offers us little. It costs billions to belong to a club that interferes in our affairs and has created needless divisions, one that will ultimately lead to our removal from the map. If a European superstate is achieved, the resentment and anger will flow through the centuries to come, creating resistance movements right across the continent.

Leaving the EU would save Britain money that could (in the right hands) be ploughed back into the public sector to safeguard jobs and services. And yet, nearly every mainstream politician lifts his nose in the air and turns away, embarrassed at ideas he considers crass. Across the world people are fighting to be more independent, not less so. They crave democracy and accountability, want to see their identities and cultures live on. The European Union is not new and it is not progressive, its trail winding back to the Roman empire. Britain needs to look to the future.

John King is the author of novels such as “The Football Factory” and “Human Punk”. He has acted as an adviser for the People’s Pledge and co-owns London Books
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The mayor of Bucharest, Sorin Oprescu, was detained by DNA prosecutors on Saturday evening while taking EUR 25,000 from four businessmen turned informants. DNA prosecutors are currently searching 13 locations in Bucharest and the Bacau, Calarasi and Ilfov counties, including Oprescu's house in Ciolpani and the City Hall.
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is that because he pissed someone off or does this mean their is an actual push to catch corrupt aholes ?
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The second option.
Romania’s anticorruption quest: Half of the county council presidents and a third of the city mayors are under investigation

An analysis made by the local news agency Mediafax shows the widespread corruption in Romania as well as the amplitude of the country’s anticorruption campaign.

Over half of Romania’s county council presidents and more than a third of the city mayors that have been elected in office in 2012, have been investigated by the National Anticorruption Directorate (DNA) and the National Integrity Agency (ANI). Some of them have been convicted and removed from office, others are currently suspended while most are still in office.

Most of these local officials have been investigated by DNA for corruption offenses, such as abuse of office, bribery, influence peddling, and conflict of interests. ANI’s investigations have targeted incompatibilities, such as owning various private firms, or unjustified revenues. Only a handful have received final convictions which forced them to resign.

Some 24 county council presidents, out of a total of 41, have been investigated by the DNA or by ANI in the past years. Most of them (14) are members of the ruling Social Democratic Party (PSD) while 9 are liberals.

Of the 110 mayors that run Romania’s cities (including the six Bucharest districts), 40 have legal issues. Half of them (20) are from the National Liberal Party (PNL), and 14 are social democrats, according to Mediafax. Some of the most notorious cases are those of Bucharest’s District 1 mayor Andrei Chiliman (PNL) and District 5 mayor Marian Vanghelie (former PSD), and that of Constanta’s mayor Radu Mazare (PSD).

The next local elections in Romania take place in June 2016, and some of the investigated officials may run with high chances of being re-elected, according to Romanian media.
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careful now, you appear to be dabbling in optimism and ill be forced to request you hand in your cliche eastern european status.
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Oh, my. I'd better find some bad news quickly.
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thanks, it will make my simplistic reduction of your life easier to manage.
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noddy wrote:careful now, you appear to be dabbling in optimism and ill be forced to request you hand in your cliche eastern european status.
Don't you have to ask to see his papers first?
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The Death of a Clown

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Corneliu Vadim Tudor died today at the age of 65. He was a washed up politician whose glory days were 15 years behind him, though still a party leader. The "Greater Romania Party" was the spearhead of nationalism, populism and barely disguised xenophobia in the '90s and Vadim Tudor managed to reach the peak of his career in 2000, when 3.1 million votes sent him into the runoff presidential election. Even the civil society had to rally behind the old Bolshevik Ion Iliescu to keep the loon out of the Cotroceni Palace. As the economy grew in the 2000s, the people jumped at the chance of conspicuous consumption and forgot about Vadim Tudor's speeches against the evil Hungarians, Jews, Gypsies and Masons. His party sank into oblivion and, at some point, failed to pass the 5% threshold.

In many ways, Vadim Tudor was Romania's Trump. The poet and writer had no business career behind him, but had the same aggressive style and crude jokes. He liked to appear in public in expensive suits. He had a very good opinion of himself and was always quick to attack and disrespect his critics, especially the women. He practiced populism on a massive scale, promising everything to everyone and forever warning about enemies threatening the nation's purity and survival. He will not be missed.

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Translation:

Hungary will build a metal fence on the Romanian border.

"Did you say metal, friend?"

(yes, this is a joke about gypsies stealing stuff)
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:lol:
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(a blog post by Dan Alexe, translated by me)
A Basarabian Parable

Even as a child I knew that my family had come from Basarabia. My grandmother and her two daughters - my mother and my aunt - as well as other parts of the family, had been thrown out of Basarabia right after the war... Or they had been able to flee across the border from the communists (my grandfather, taken to Siberia to die, had been a soldier in the Romanian army) without any inkling that the latter would rule Bucharest as well.

I was vaguely aware that they had been deported internally several time. All through the 1950s, whenever they managed to set up a household somewhere, they and others from Basarabia would be forcibly relocated elsewhere. In Banat, in Vrancea and, finally, in the Bărăgan plain. There, in Bărăgan, my childhood was dominated by the imposing figure of grandmother Raisa* - "Mama Raia".

Mama Raia had a way of talking that forced even the family's men to fall silent and listen to her with respect. She used strange words that she had brought from Orhei: she would say "primu raz", for instance, when she meant "the first time"... Her neighbor (who was also from Basarabia) was "that whore" and when she put the food on the table she would say: "eat and die".

When she saw a woman wearing lipstick she would say:

Up front the painted lips
In the back the cracked heels


She hated the communists so I was anything but surprised to learn that she voted for Vadim and Greater Romania. Most of her Basarabian neighbors from Slobozia, Ialomita county, voted the same way, saying that it was the only party defending the Romanian nation.

Recently, as a man halfway through his own life, I dared asking Mama Raia for "primu raz" about our family, about her parents buried in Orhei. After a lengthy speech on how the Romanian nation was withering and how all the politicians ruling in Bucharest were communists, she told me that her father had been a Greek from Chisinau and her mother... Polish.

Slack-jawed, I heard myself asking: "Mama Raia... what language did you speak at home?"

She looked at me like I had said an incredibly stupid thing and replied: "Well... Russian."

... and she kept voting Greater Romania.
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Presidential adviser Dan Mihalache is a tired man. Pictured here at an official meeting in Serbia.

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YMix wrote:Presidential adviser Dan Mihalache is a tired man. Pictured here at an official meeting in Serbia.

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Maybe he was just doing an impression of a fish out of water? :)
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to give him credit the pair either side also look barely compos.
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Romanian Night Club Fire..... Hope YMix & his are well......

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Survivors: Singer at nightclub did not realize fire danger

Oct 31, 8:35 AM (ET)

By ALISON MUTLER

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BUCHAREST, Romania (AP) — Survivors of a deadly nightclub fire and stampede in Romania say the lead singer of the heavy metal band on stage made a joke at first about the fire before it engulfed the basement club in downtown Bucharest.

Hundreds of young people had gone clubbing at the hip Colectiv nightclub Friday night to enjoy a free concert by the Goodbye to Gravity metal band. The evening ended in horror, as the inferno caused a panic that killed 27 people and injured 180 others.

Some 146 people remained hospitalized Saturday, some in critical condition suffering from burns and smoke inhalation. Officials expect the death toll to rise in what is the worst disaster of its kind ever in Romania.

Premier Victor Ponta cut short a visit to Mexico to return to Bucharest and declared decreed three days of mourning starting immediately for the victims.

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Raed Arafat, an emergency situations official, said 17 of those who died still have not been identified. TV stations posted a number for families to call to find out about the tragedy, the worst of its kind in Romania's history.

Witnesses told Antena 3 TV that between 300 to 400 mostly young people had been at the club, housed in a former factory, when a pyrotechnical show went awry. They said there was only one exit.

Club-goers told Digi 24 television that a spark on stage ignited some polystyrene decor. Photos posted on social media appeared to show a flame emanating from a pillar covered in foam insulation as those in the audience applauded the band.

Delia Tugui, teacher at the American International School of Bucharest who was at the concert with her husband and son, said club-goers were taken by surprise at how fast the fire grew and panicked as it spread.

"The lead singer made a quick joke: 'This wasn't part of the program.' The next second, he realized it wasn't a joke and asked for a fire extinguisher," she wrote on her Facebook page. "In 30 seconds...the fire spread all over the ceiling. People rushed to the entrance but it was too narrow, and people panicked. Behind me people stampeded, climbing over each other, to try and get out."
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Condolences and hope that YMix or friends & family were not hurt or worse..........

The US had some bad fire like this in the US too........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stati ... tclub_fire
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Thank you, no friends or family involved.

Sadly, it's the usual story: inadequate location (only two regular doors, one of which was barred), owners too poor or too stingy to pay for fireproof soundproofing, 500 people crammed inside the club because there was no admission fee, fireworks were used (survivors say they heard an explosion, which probably means that somebody packed way too much combustible material in those fireworks).
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YMix wrote:Thank you, no friends or family involved.

Sadly, it's the usual story: inadequate location (only two regular doors, one of which was barred), owners too poor or too stingy to pay for fireproof soundproofing, 500 people crammed inside the club because there was no admission fee, fireworks were used (survivors say they heard an explosion, which probably means that somebody packed way too much combustible material in those fireworks).
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YMix wrote:Image

Translation:

Hungary will build a metal fence on the Romanian border.

"Did you say metal, friend?"

(yes, this is a joke about gypsies stealing stuff)
:lol:

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Romanian Prime Minister Victor Ponta resigns, a day after mass protests over deadly nightclub fire
40,000 people marched last evening. Hopefully, it's just the beginning.
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surely it must be alot more than that, straw and camels backs etc.

i cant imagine an australian prime minister being blamed for a nightclubs incompetance.
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Well, yes, of course. The Social Democrats (PSD) lost the presidential elections a year ago and incurred the people's wrath with their corruption, incompetence and crass treatment of Romanian voters living abroad. The National Liberals (PNL) were supposed to storm the Victoria Palace and install a better government. Unfortunately, the PNL has revealed itself since spring as a remarkably incompetent party. Every one of their attempts to attack the PSD has failed dismally. But a string of high profile arrests and the more and more obvious incompetence of PM Ponta kept popular discontent simmering through the summer. In the past two weeks, the death of a police officer in an illegal motorcade escorting the Minister of Internal Affairs home from work and the death of 30+ people in a club fire proved to be the straw that tickled the camel pink or something. Facebook is afire with calls to more protests, which is probably why PSD president Dragnea told Ponta to clear his desk before noon. The PSD had just managed to claw its way back to the top of the polls again and now it's on the brink of losing everything in a storm of public anger. The PNL has obviously come out for early elections because the people may deliver now what the party has been too inept to secure for itself.

It's sort of unfair to Ponta to lose his job over a club fire that's not really his business, but this isn't just about a club fire anymore.
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noddy wrote:careful now, you appear to be dabbling in optimism and ill be forced to request you hand in your cliche eastern european status.
normality restored :/

tho for all that, you guys are ahead of us lot now, you are are actually getting reactionary politicians and decent crowds of protest.
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10,000 in University Square. Thousands more across the country. The younger urban generations demand change.
“There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent? Take a look at what we’ve done, too.” - Donald J. Trump, President of the USA
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