STDs and Culture

[Mr. Perfect]

The impact of public awareness, sexual education, and use of protection (namely condoms) on overall sexual health has been widely studied and does not corroborate your alarmist views.

What does Australia have to do with anything? Why were rates so low before 1917? Why did you leave out pre-1917 data?

That's fine. But most people would prefer to experience sex before marriage with a few partners even if it meant a negligible risk of contracting an STD. I mean, in the end, what's more destructive? A curable case of chlamydia or a shitty marriage?

Many people have multiple sex partners and then have $#!**y marriages. Nothing about having multiple sex partners precludes you from having a $#!%%y marriage. In fact in that case you have to live with the fact that your spouse did have multiple partners before you, whose past nights of passion may be more fondly looked upon than current ones, and may have an ex out of the blue come around looking for a hook up at any time. Some people have to deal with that, which absolutely sucks.

And then there is the modern phenom of people who swap partners and the experiences are so $#!** that they in fact never rise to marriage material. This is growing.

It seems like your sex education left out that you don't have any control over what sex disease you pick up. Curable or uncurable.

[Zack Morris]

The impact of public awareness, sexual education, and use of protection (namely condoms) on overall sexual health has been widely studied and does not corroborate your alarmist views.

What does Australia have to do with anything? Why were rates so low before 1917? Why did you leave out pre-1917 data?

That's the quickest snapshot I could grab. Australia is culturally similar to the United States. If you want data prior to 1917, I suppose you could dig up all the syphilactic skeletons known to be buried in centuries-old graveyards and do a statistical analysis yourself. For the purposes of this discussion, I think this graph is very illuminating.

Many people have multiple sex partners and then have $#!**y marriages.

Actually, the evidence shows that the later one marries, the more successful that marriage will be. That happens to be the trend among highly educated, affluent couples, who are thriving. Marrying young is a recipe for divorce.

Nothing about having multiple sex partners precludes you from having a $#!%%y marriage.

When you can try before you buy, why would you buy before you try?

In fact in that case you have to live with the fact that your spouse did have multiple partners before you, whose past nights of passion may be more fondly looked upon than current ones,

We don't need to hear about your weird personal hang-ups.

and may have an ex out of the blue come around looking for a hook up at any time.

Sounds scary. What relationship could possibly withstand the constant barrage of exes coming out of the blue looking for hook-ups at any time?!!! Quick, we need to eliminate exes so people will have nobody to cheat with!

Some people have to deal with that, which absolutely sucks.

What percentage of marriages are destroyed by exes?

And then there is the modern phenom of people who swap partners and the experiences are so $#!** that they in fact never rise to marriage material. This is growing.

Those people either learn to settle or stay single, sparing someone else the misfortune of dedicating their life to them. What's wrong with that? In the old days, it would have been a miserable, broken marriage.

It seems like your sex education left out that you don't have any control over what sex disease you pick up. Curable or uncurable.

You only have so much control. If your wife cheats, you'll get a crotch disease, too. Choose your partners wisely, be safe, and you'll generally be fine. Withholding sexual education isn't going to reduce STD rates.

[Mr. Perfect]

That's the quickest snapshot I could grab. Australia is culturally similar to the United States.

Good one Zack Morris.

If you want data prior to 1917, I suppose you could dig up all the syphilactic skeletons known to be buried in centuries-old graveyards and do a statistical analysis yourself.

It was your idea, not mine.

For the purposes of this discussion, I think this graph is very illuminating.

I don't.

Actually, the evidence shows that the later one marries, the more successful that marriage will be.

Let me guess, you have an Australian chart for that too.

That happens to be the trend among highly educated, affluent couples, who are thriving. Marrying young is a recipe for divorce.

I think we're going to see a lot of Australians charts. IT seems like everything is a recipe for divorce these days. Wonder why that is.

Why don't you care about poor black people Zack Morris. The sex disease and broken homes in that community. Why always so indifferent?

When you can try before you buy, why would you buy before you try?

I don't know. It just doesn't prevent $#!** marriages.

We don't need to hear about your weird personal hang-ups.

It's called the human condition Zack Morris. Are you a swinger of some sort.

Sounds scary. What relationship could possibly withstand the constant barrage of exes coming out of the blue looking for hook-ups at any time?!!! Quick, we need to eliminate exes so people will have nobody to cheat with!

Don't hate the playa hate the game.

What percentage of marriages are destroyed by exes?

Maybe you can find some Australian data on that one.

Those people either learn to settle or stay single, sparing someone else the misfortune of dedicating their life to them. What's wrong with that? In the old days, it would have been a miserable, broken marriage.

One wonders about a liberal culture that can no longer produce individuals who are marriage material. But you don't have to wonder very much.

You only have so much control. If your wife cheats, you'll get a crotch disease, too. Choose your partners wisely, be safe, and you'll generally be fine. Withholding sexual education isn't going to reduce STD rates.

Neither is giving it. So one wonders, one wonders.

STD rates are unbelievably high.

Look how people who actually have them are actually terribly distraught about, in contrast with your indifference.

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[Typhoon]

i don't understand the thinking of people who are so preoccupied with other people's bedrooms.

[Mr. Perfect]

Sex disease happens in bedrooms.

And in public parks in some places.

[Typhoon]

Sex disease happens in bedrooms.

And in public parks in some places.

Eeeeeew. Like really. OMG.

[Zack Morris]

I don't see what is so different about Australia's long-term experience. They, too, experienced sexual liberalization and in the early 20th century were a solidly Christian nation. As an Allied power, I suppose their soldiers sang along to "Onward Christian Soldier".

Anyway, there is no evidence that sexual education has increased the spread of STDs. Nor can you draw a line connecting "liberal politics" or "beliefs" with the evolution of sexual behavior in the modern world because it's impossible to disentangle cause and effect. Societies raised for centuries to believe in a mythical Jewish deity and adhere to a strict moral code did not spontaneously shed their beliefs simply because a few contrarian voices emerged and led them astray. The shift in social attitudes was near-total and very rapid, occurring in a matter of mere decades.

This is why conservatives struggle maintaining a coherent worldview. You are totally misunderstanding what is going on in the world and seek comfort in first century philosophy and 19th century economics.

[Mr. Perfect]

I don't see

That much is usually clear, and it doesn't really matter one way or the other. We're talking about data, not your personal views on people you've never met and know nothing about.

what is so different about Australia's long-term experience. They, too, experienced sexual liberalization and in the early 20th century were a solidly Christian nation. As an Allied power, I suppose their soldiers sang along to "Onward Christian Soldier".

Anyway, there is no evidence that sexual education has increased the spread of STDs.

Err, the point was for all this to REDUCE sex disease, which it failed to do. Do you know what you do with failed policies and ideas.

Nor can you draw a line connecting "liberal politics" or "beliefs" with the evolution of sexual behavior in the modern world because it's impossible to disentangle cause and effect. Societies raised for centuries to believe in a mythical Jewish deity and adhere to a strict moral code did not spontaneously shed their beliefs simply because a few contrarian voices emerged and led them astray. The shift in social attitudes was near-total and very rapid, occurring in a matter of mere decades.

This is why conservatives struggle maintaining a coherent worldview. You are totally misunderstanding what is going on in the world and seek comfort in first century philosophy and 19th century economics.

White Liberals are struggling to reproduce (shouldn't say struggle, should say failing) and give each other sex diseases instead. White liberals everywhere are going extinct, genetically, and with their physical deaths will go their ideas. They will have to, because their beliefs led to their deaths. Liberalism is antithetical to human procreation. Ironically as you believe in Darwin the odds of you being an unfit member of the species skyrockets. Ironic.

But strangely you will not go quietly into the night alone, in other threads advocate for centrally planned depopulation. One wonders what the roots of your misanthropy are, exactly. Something to explore in the future. Just leave your childlessness to you guys, the rest of us will be fine.

Anyway, time to apologize for your lies and false charges.

[monster_gardener]

Sex disease happens in bedrooms.

And in public parks in some places.

Eeeeeew. Like really. OMG.

Thank You VERY MUCH for Your post and Maintaining the Forum Typhoon.

OMG

Which one?

Urd? Skuld? Or Belldandy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Goddess!

[Demon of Undoing]

Worrying about the previous lovers one's SO might have had is comically insecure.

NSFW

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I imagine the problem above is somehow related to Clinton.

All that worry evaporates when she gets the brand of your name on her ass.

[Mr. Perfect]

Some people don't have to worry about it.

[Mr. Perfect]

Leftists keep racking up the records. Sex disease for everyone. Way to go liberals!

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/10/06/ ... iven-time/

While the national media focus on the Ebola outbreak in West Africa and the patient in Dallas, the CDC is reminding Americans that sexually transmitted diseases are an ongoing but hidden epidemic.

In the United States, nearly 20 million cases of new STD infections are reported each year, reports Live Science. Since infections can persist for a long time, and because some victims are not even aware they have a disease and can easily spread it to others.

Based on data from 2008, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the eight most common sexually transmitted diseases are: chlamydia, gonorrhea, hepatitis B virus (HBV), genital herpes, HIV, human papillomavirus (HPV), syphilis and trichomoniasis.

About 50.5 million current infections are in men while 59.5 million are in women, for a total of 110 million Americans with STDs at any given time.

Fifty percent of new infections occur in young people from ages 15-24 and gonorrhea is the most commonly reported STD in that age group.

[Typhoon]

Leftists keep racking up the records. Sex disease for everyone. Way to go liberals!

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/10/06/ ... iven-time/

While the national media focus on the Ebola outbreak in West Africa and the patient in Dallas, the CDC is reminding Americans that sexually transmitted diseases are an ongoing but hidden epidemic.

In the United States, nearly 20 million cases of new STD infections are reported each year, reports Live Science. Since infections can persist for a long time, and because some victims are not even aware they have a disease and can easily spread it to others.

Based on data from 2008, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the eight most common sexually transmitted diseases are: chlamydia, gonorrhea, hepatitis B virus (HBV), genital herpes, HIV, human papillomavirus (HPV), syphilis and trichomoniasis.

About 50.5 million current infections are in men while 59.5 million are in women, for a total of 110 million Americans with STDs at any given time.

Fifty percent of new infections occur in young people from ages 15-24 and gonorrhea is the most commonly reported STD in that age group.

Your causal claims do not survive trivial scrutiny:

Chlamydia:





Gonorrhea:







Source: US CDC

[Mr. Perfect]

They sure do. This is the sexually educated obama demographic, which your data sets do not allow for.

Fifty percent of new infections occur in young people from ages 15-24 and gonorrhea is the most commonly reported STD in that age group.

[Zack Morris]

Some demographic must by definition account for the majority of STD cases. Why are you surprised it's the youngest and least mature? Did you expect it to be Viagra-popping octogenarians?

Typhoon showed us that gonorrhea rates have plummeted and stabilized since the 70's, chlamydia is only inching upwards, and in all cases, the conservative South and Midwest regions have the highest rates of infections -- higher even than the densely populated, libertine Northeast and Western states. The more likely a county was to vote against Obama, the higher the incidence of crotch disease. No rebuttal was offered.

[Mr. Perfect]

Well the 2 obvious things.

1) If sex ed worked, there would be no disparity among demographics. The young are educated sexually at rates never before seen and they lead charge.

2) I can say the rebuttal you're looking for is one that ultimately is more painful for liberals, but I won't make the rebuttal because the liberals really don't care for the people involved and instead will exploit their misfortune yet another time and I'm not going to be responsible for that.

I'm alarmed at y'all's unfamiliarity with the United States.

[Nonc Hilaire]

Leftists keep racking up the records. Sex disease for everyone. Way to go liberals!

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/10/06/ ... iven-time/

While the national media focus on the Ebola outbreak in West Africa and the patient in Dallas, the CDC is reminding Americans that sexually transmitted diseases are an ongoing but hidden epidemic.

In the United States, nearly 20 million cases of new STD infections are reported each year, reports Live Science. Since infections can persist for a long time, and because some victims are not even aware they have a disease and can easily spread it to others.

Based on data from 2008, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the eight most common sexually transmitted diseases are: chlamydia, gonorrhea, hepatitis B virus (HBV), genital herpes, HIV, human papillomavirus (HPV), syphilis and trichomoniasis.

About 50.5 million current infections are in men while 59.5 million are in women, for a total of 110 million Americans with STDs at any given time.

Fifty percent of new infections occur in young people from ages 15-24 and gonorrhea is the most commonly reported STD in that age group.

Maybe liberals get laid while conservatives masturbate? The House majority does seem preoccupied with stroking its Bohner. :lol