Attacks on US diplomats/embassies.

[Ibrahim]

Just a small correction to your beginning statement. So many in the Middle East DO NOT hate you. Far from it.

Quite right. Consider: 25 million in Yemen, about 500 attacking the embassy, 80+ million in Egypt, maybe 2000 protesting at different sites, 10 million in Tunisia and maybe 500 at the US embassy, and in Libya 6 million, while one terror cell kills the ambassador and regular Libyans trying to save him plus holding pro-US demonstrations.

Anybody thinking this is some monolithic movement doesn't have a clue. The point I am making is that outrage is justified in principle, though clearly there are only a small number of people actively targeting US diplomatic missions.

[Hans Bulvai]

French weekly risks fury with Prophet cartoons

The magazine’s editor, originally a cartoonist who uses the name Charb, denied he was being deliberately provocative at a delicate time.

“The freedom of the press, is that a provocation?” he said

Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Sunday the authorities would not permit any more demonstrations against the film, saying Saturday’s protest had been orchestrated by groups that “advocate radical Islam.”

What about Freedom of Speech?

[Hoosiernorm]

What's it all going to look like when the "Killing Bin Laden" Movie is released this December?

[noddy]

i wonder if the shooting the scruffy dude in the head while he waddles out of the toilet in his underpants with a porno in one hand and a smoke in the other is the climatic boss fight that good action movie needs.

[Jnalum Persicum]

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This group can also be referred to as the Brent Scowcroft faction. Scowcroft, Henry Kissinger’s right-hand man, used his entrenched bureaucratic position over decades to help promote many of his co-religionists. This group wants Romney in the White House because Romney and his transition team boss Mike Leavitt, also a Mormon, are visibly embarked on a policy of favoring Mormons for top positions.

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Azari, was trying to tell you, you got tricked this zionist/joo stuff, just a cover created by Mormons. They learnt how to pull the strings from the deserts of Utah. Smokescreen. You got tricked.

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putting everything aside, one thing seems very strange :

YouTube, BTW : Salar Kamangar (Persian: سالار کمانگر‎; born 1977 in Tehran) is CEO of YouTube and Senior Vice President of Video at Google., parent company Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter and and and .. all of them .. are subordinate to American intelligence authorities (in reality tool of western intelligence apparatus)

How can that "video clip" stay on YouTube despite all the catastrophic effect having on American foreign policy ? ? ?

Some forces in America want to spike things .. that video is made for a political cause

IMVHO, the Neocons made it .. "Zionist/neocon/Bolton" gang is behind this

Time will tell whether Joe the plumber learned his lesson


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[Jnalum Persicum]

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Over 90% of civilian deaths in Iraq were from other Iraqis.

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MP , does it not sound strange to you, in Iraq, since 9 yrs, every week bombs go off and each time 100+ woman and children are killed in marketplace or street .. and .. America does not know who is doing this ? ? ?

how come America pinpoints in Yemen or in Afghanistan or Pakistan the terrorists .. but .. in Iraq
America does not know who plants the daily bombs that kill 100s of civilians every week ? ? ?

well

simple answer is , America knows who is doing it

question is why Americans not doing something about it ? ?

Tariq al-Hashemi , Fugitive Iraqi vice president , was in Qatar, and now in Istanbul .. directing (with others) all this .. and NATO/West/US is backing him


Ankara backs Iraq VP


http://world.time.com/2012/09/09/iraqi-court-sentences-sunni-vp-to-death/


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[Sparky]

i wonder if the shooting the scruffy dude in the head while he waddles out of the toilet in his underpants with a porno in one hand and a smoke in the other is the climatic boss fight that good action movie needs.

Well it worked in the Sopranos.

[Typhoon]

i wonder if the shooting the scruffy dude in the head while he waddles out of the toilet in his underpants with a porno in one hand and a smoke in the other is the climatic boss fight that good action movie needs.

Well it worked in the Sopranos.

And in Pulp Fiction.

[Enki]

i wonder if the shooting the scruffy dude in the head while he waddles out of the toilet in his underpants with a porno in one hand and a smoke in the other is the climatic boss fight that good action movie needs.

Well it worked in the Sopranos.

And in Pulp Fiction.

And The Unforgiven.

[Ibrahim]

i wonder if the shooting the scruffy dude in the head while he waddles out of the toilet in his underpants with a porno in one hand and a smoke in the other is the climatic boss fight that good action movie needs.

Well it worked in the Sopranos.

And in Pulp Fiction.

And The Unforgiven.

And the Jackass movies.


"I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is Shooting Bin Laden in the Face" *gunfire* *giggles*

[Enki]

Three cheers for murder...YAY!!!!

[Mr. Perfect]

Obama Democrats sure like it. Yes they do.

[noddy]

i wonder if the shooting the scruffy dude in the head while he waddles out of the toilet in his underpants with a porno in one hand and a smoke in the other is the climatic boss fight that good action movie needs.

Well it worked in the Sopranos.

And in Pulp Fiction.

And The Unforgiven.

And the Jackass movies.


"I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is Shooting Bin Laden in the Face" *gunfire* *giggles*

o_O

in my defense id argue that they arent typical summer blockbuster fodder and those scenes are not the climactic boss fight... well except sopranos maybe, i never watched that.

but feh. yeh ok. :]

[Endovelico]

The French magazine Charlie Hebdo has published the following first page cartoon, with the expected results from authorities and opinion makers.



But I'm starting to think that the publishing of such cartoons, directed not only at Islam or Judaism, but also at all the major figures of all religions, would be a highly educative initiative. People must learn the meaning of freedom, and learn to be tolerant even of what seems in bad taste. I would draw the line at the publishing of cartoons mocking child molestation, genocide and the like, but being offensive of beliefs, any beliefs, is a positive thing. A belief is, by definition, irrational. Whether religious or political. So let's bash them. That might encourage people to be more rational and more tolerant, which would be good for all of us.

[Endovelico]

Other examples of Charlie Hebdo's pedagogic campaign:









I'm not publishing these cartoons because I necessarily agree with their specific message, but because we must fight intolerance, and learn to accept that our beliefs are only our own and that other people don't have to share them nor even be respectful of them in the manner we think proper.

[Uche Americanus]

Was Ambasssador Stevens raped and sodomized by his captors? This will not be surprising. A similar behavior was on display during the capture of Gadaffi.

[Ibrahim]

Was Ambasssador Stevens raped and sodomized by his captors?

Actually Libyans rushed to try and save him.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/17/world/afr ... index.html



You're going to need to up your propaganda game if you've been polishing that gem for a week.

[Uche Americanus]

That is not the point, you ruffian. The question is a simple one. Was Ambassador Stevens raped and sodomized as is being reported?

[Uche Americanus]

http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/09/16/we ... hic-photo/

[Ibrahim]

That is not the point, you ruffian.

In what sense am I a "ruffian" for pointing out that Libyans attempted to rescue Stevens? Are you perhaps angry because I corrected false statements in your previous posts?




The article you linked cites an unconfirmed Lebanese blog post/video, and moreover the details reported, or should I say speculated about, are contradicted by the official medical reports. Nice try though.

[Nonc Hilaire]

That is not the point, you ruffian.

In what sense am I a "ruffian" for pointing out that Libyans attempted to rescue Stevens? Are you perhaps angry because I corrected false statements in your previous posts?




The article you linked cites an unconfirmed Lebanese blog post/video, and moreover the details reported, or should I say speculated about, are contradicted by the official medical reports. Nice try though.

Was there ever an official American embassy in Benghazi? Or an answer to the charge that Stevens was assaulted for his pederasty rather than for political reasons?

[Ibrahim]

That is not the point, you ruffian.

In what sense am I a "ruffian" for pointing out that Libyans attempted to rescue Stevens? Are you perhaps angry because I corrected false statements in your previous posts?




The article you linked cites an unconfirmed Lebanese blog post/video, and moreover the details reported, or should I say speculated about, are contradicted by the official medical reports. Nice try though.

Was there ever an official American embassy in Benghazi? Or an answer to the charge that Stevens was assaulted for his pederasty rather than for political reasons?

CNN and Reuters say the Benghazi post was a "consulate" and a "safehouse." IIRC Stevens was there during the civil war, in support of the rebels against the Gaddafi government in Tripoli.

This is the first I've heard of any allegations against Stevens. This was also the first I've heard about the "sodomy" story. Seems like something that might have made more of a splash if there was any credible evidence to support it.

[Uche Americanus]

Ambasssador Stevens may have be gay and some of his assailants may have known this. That does not excuse the bahvior of his assailants. But what ever the case may have been, he is a human being who was horribly and brutally murdered. When Stevens was taken to the safe house from the Benghazi Consulate by the Libyan security, it was reported that it was a member of that same security outfit who told the Islamists where to find him. And they did as is now clear. Importantly, it appears, as is being reported that Ambassador Stevens was sexually assaulted and sodomized by his captors. I don't think asking about this amounts to being a propagandist. That was why I called you a "ruffian". You have a tendency to get angry at people who disagree with you and in the process forget that people have a right to free expression. My attempt was to discover if such demonic behavior occured? We saw similar behavior with the CBS news reporter, Logan and again with Gadahfi where he was sodomized with a wooden utensil. This seems to be the modus operandi of the Islamists and terrorists. Rape and sodomize their opponents as a way of demoralizing them.

As we say in pidgin English. "I weak oh" for this sort of behavior.

[Ibrahim]

We have yet to see any substantiation of Uche's claims beyond the link to an article citing another Lebanese website. Mainstream news sources contradict these claims. Hate to be a "ruffian," but that's the score so far. Seems like somebody is looking for an excuse to talk about "demonic rapists," but none exists.

[Marcus]

. . You have a tendency to get angry at people who disagree with you and in the process forget that people have a right to free expression. My attempt was to discover if such demonic behavior occured? We saw similar behavior with the CBS news reporter, Logan and again with Gadahfi where he was sodomized with a wooden utensil. This seems to be the modus operandi of the Islamists and terrorists. Rape and sodomize their opponents as a way of demoralizing them. . .

Have you read Kite Runner, Uche? Sodomy is integral to the story.

As for free expression, get used to it. There are some so inflated with their own opinions that any opinion to the contrary is lies, error, racism, yadda, yadda, yadda, ad nauseam. Check the "Ignore" function.

As Hans put it, the problem is not Islam, the problem is individual Muslims . .