Europe

[noddy]

I have read pretty much all Russian literature (in German), all .. not sure you familiar with

To know Russia one must have read Giants of Russian literature

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you have almost worked it out Azari, Im glad!

next step, go through that list and see how many are in the thin strip of soviet union that is left of moscow - the european bit, and how many are one of the famed indigene cultures to the right of moscow.

next step, look at all those baltic and slavic countries in that strip which arre now in europe and thriving.

next step, look at the oil and gas fields in eastern ukraine.

you will almost see the real reason then.

sprinkle some demographic problems on top and bake the cake.

noddy, you mistake, "Culture & civilization" with ethnicity

Nikolai Gogol (Dead Souls) was of Ukrainian origin.

Alexander Pushkin .. His maternal great-grandfather was Major-General Abram Petrovich Gannibal, a nobleman of Eritrean origin who was kidnapped from his homeland by Ottomans, then freed by the Russian Emperor and raised in the Emperor's court household as his godson.

All Russian Giants of Literature wrote "from within" Russian culture & civilization .. world class art, literature, music, painting, film, poetry etc is a form of expressing Zeitgeist feelings .. if this not the case, will not endure.

Meaning, all those Russian Giants of Literature were Russian, immersed in Russian "civilization & Culture" no matter whether they ethnic Latvian or Ukrainian or Estonian OR Eritrean.

And

The Indo Germans, migrated from norther India to Europe, by spitting to two groups, one group went below Caspian Sea via Persia (Iranians), the other group went north of Caspian Via present Russia .. Russians and Ukrainians and Baltic AND Germans same stock.

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Iranian literature is one of the best in the world, if not the best .. but .. many Iranian Giants of Literature, Philosophers, even scientists born places outside present Iran.

Interesting is, most "Non Persian" who overran Persia, stayed in Persia and became passionate Persian, adapting culture, civilization, language and religion of Persia .. that is why Persia is a "multi ethnic" civilization .. Persia has more Turks than Turkey, lots of Uzebck, Tajik, Turkamen, Arabs. As said many times, Iranian is a culture and civilization and not a ethnicity.

There is a reason that Hermitage has so many Impressionism paintings - Russian #1 art lovers in the world .. for that you must be "Passionate"
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no.

you have said what i said

you are only a great "russian" with great literature and culture if you come from that thin strip of western russia which is the european people.

if you remove the ex soviet baltics and slavic peoples, their are no great russians left

you have almost worked it out Azari, keep on trying, you will get there.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Ukraine and Belarus arent doing very well in the Russia sphere

I wonder why Ukraine wants to join the Poles and Baltics in the Euro sphere.

true, they are very corrupt and full of rascist nazis, but unfortunately thats what the Russia sphere is.

Forget Bonaparte, sitting in Kremlin looking out of window @ Moscow burning

forget that

But

What about Germans killing 30 million Russians and destroying all Russia ?

Did Germans pay any reparation ?

US rebuilt Europe, Japan.

Who rebuilt USSR ? and Eastern Europe ?

Russia was in ruin, and was a poor country .. Russians rebuilt Russia with bare hands .. and .. on top of that, had to build defence against NATO, Germans.

Am astonished Russians still at speaking terms with Germans .. mad mullahs, Shia, fighting Sunni Arabs about what happened 1400 yrs ago, arguing Omar was mean to Ali and in Karbala 85 Ali supporters were beheaded

And Russians are the bad guy.

Come on
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[Heracleum Persicum]

I have read pretty much all Russian literature (in German), all .. not sure you familiar with

To know Russia one must have read Giants of Russian literature

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you have almost worked it out Azari, Im glad!

next step, go through that list and see how many are in the thin strip of soviet union that is left of moscow - the european bit, and how many are one of the famed indigene cultures to the right of moscow.

next step, look at all those baltic and slavic countries in that strip which arre now in europe and thriving.

next step, look at the oil and gas fields in eastern ukraine.

you will almost see the real reason then.

sprinkle some demographic problems on top and bake the cake.

noddy, you mistake, "Culture & civilization" with ethnicity

Nikolai Gogol (Dead Souls) was of Ukrainian origin.

Alexander Pushkin .. His maternal great-grandfather was Major-General Abram Petrovich Gannibal, a nobleman of Eritrean origin who was kidnapped from his homeland by Ottomans, then freed by the Russian Emperor and raised in the Emperor's court household as his godson.

All Russian Giants of Literature wrote "from within" Russian culture & civilization .. world class art, literature, music, painting, film, poetry etc is a form of expressing Zeitgeist feelings .. if this not the case, will not endure.

Meaning, all those Russian Giants of Literature were Russian, immersed in Russian "civilization & Culture" no matter whether they ethnic Latvian or Ukrainian or Estonian OR Eritrean.

And

The Indo Germans, migrated from norther India to Europe, by spitting to two groups, one group went below Caspian Sea via Persia (Iranians), the other group went north of Caspian Via present Russia .. Russians and Ukrainians and Baltic AND Germans same stock.

--

Iranian literature is one of the best in the world, if not the best .. but .. many Iranian Giants of Literature, Philosophers, even scientists born places outside present Iran.

Interesting is, most "Non Persian" who overran Persia, stayed in Persia and became passionate Persian, adapting culture, civilization, language and religion of Persia .. that is why Persia is a "multi ethnic" civilization .. Persia has more Turks than Turkey, lots of Uzebck, Tajik, Turkamen, Arabs. As said many times, Iranian is a culture and civilization and not a ethnicity.

There is a reason that Hermitage has so many Impressionism paintings - Russian #1 art lovers in the world .. for that you must be "Passionate"
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no.

you have said what i said

you are only a great "russian" with great literature and culture if you come from that thin strip of western russia which is the european people.

if you remove the ex soviet baltics and slavic peoples, their are no great russians left

you have almost worked it out Azari, keep on trying, you will get there.

You guys animosity is not with Chechnya or Dagestan or Tatarstan in Russia

Your animosity is with "that thin strip of western Russia which is the European people."

West does not want to accept "that thin strip of western Russia which is the European people." as full Europeans.

Putin said this 2 times, very very clearly, he said we want to be accepted as Europeans, word by word .. watch the interview, he pleads clearly.

so, noddy, I don't understand what you getting at ?

Russians, Baltics, Ukraine and others, pretty much same stock.

and

Ever heard of Latvian or Estonian or Ukrainians civilization of world class ? they all created in Russian culture and civilization .. this not about ethnicity this about civilization.

Did Dostoevsky write in Latvian or Estonian or Ukrainian language .. everybody in that space was inside Russian culture and civilization.

What does this mean ?

it means Russian culture and civilization must be special.
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[noddy]

almost there now Azari.

when given the choice, how many of those regions in western russia wanted to be tied to moscow and how many of them wanted to be tied to the EU.

historically, poland and ukraine had more "rus" people than moscow ever did, why do these empire wankers always choose a certain point in history to make some claim ?

hmm.

keep going , you are almost there.

[noddy]

Your animosity is with "that thin strip of western Russia which is the European people."

West does not want to accept "that thin strip of western Russia which is the European people." as full Europeans.

so close.

you can almost taste it.

[Heracleum Persicum]

almost there now Azari.

when given the choice, how many of those regions in western russia wanted to be tied to moscow and how many of them wanted to be tied to the EU.

historically, poland and ukraine had more "rus" people than moscow ever did, why do these empire wankers always choose a certain point in history to make some claim ?

hmm.

keep going , you are almost there.

You now coming out of closet

What you say above is typical Anglo.

Why so many Ukrainians married to Russians and live in Russia and speak Russian and love Russians ?

Why they not married to Pols, or Germans or French or Brits, to what you call EU ?

Ukraine was baited by EU (with NATO plan in mind) for Dolce vita, honey and milk, fooling a small minority.

West, EU, deal was a "Faustian bargain" .. honey and milk only if NATO puts missiles @ Russian door.

Majority of Ukrainians, they no fool, said NO

West organized a military putsch, and throw Ukraine into this disaster.

Father, mother, brother of Colonel General Oleksandr Stanislavovych Syrskyi, commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine since 8 February 2024, live in Russia ( probably have Russian passport too).

In ain't so that Ukrainians hate Russia and love EU and want to adapt EU cultural and civilization .. Ask Hungarian people , ask Polish people whether they want what you say.

Long story short, the story with Ukraine is this :

Ukraine wanted to do better economically .. went to Russia, Russians said we brothers and we do our best .. EU said we give you what you want if NATO can put the nuke missiles on Russian border .. Ukraine leaned to Russians .. West organized a military putsch, and throw Ukraine into this disaster.


The mistake that most Western, mainly Anglos, make is, they think everybody in the world admires Western culture and civilization and life and wants to live that way.

People are comfortable and love to live "within their own culture and civilization" .. what makes Westerners happy not necessarily makes a Tibetan or Indonesian or an Arab happy

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[Heracleum Persicum]

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The Telegraph
Europe is finished
The continent is incapable of recovering from its present
economic, military and demographic crises

It’s time to mourn the demise of old Europe. The rot is too far gone, the decline too pronounced, the welfarism, decadence, pacifism and self-hatred too ingrained, the doom-loop unstoppable. Once the world’s richest, most advanced continent, Europe is finished, its humiliating fall all too obvious to the rest of the world, if not to deluded Europeans.

Its self-inflicted pathologies – catastrophic economic failure, near-total geopolitical irrelevance, a migration and integration crisis, and a gaping democratic deficit – have now metastasised. They have become too complex, too daunting for Europe’s third-rate elites even to consider tackling, and especially for the selfish, demagogic politicians who have presided with such insouciance over its social disintegration, “degrowth”, Potemkin militaries and appalling demographics. Germany, France, the Netherlands and elsewhere are on the brink of social explosion, with farmers the latest to have become radicalised.

Any young, ambitious European would be better off moving to America, especially anti-woke Florida or Texas. They will pay less tax. They will live better, happier, freer lives. They will be less likely to face total war. Their living standards will be drastically higher.

That's what Putin sayin .. US f*cked Europe.

Germans were conquering the world and now pretty much bankrupt.

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[noddy]

if only you could enjoy the asurdity of that as much as I do.

schrodginers europe -

a) passified and pussified, armies gone rusty, sliding into irrreversable dotage, too scare for conflict any more after the horrors of ww2.

b) aggresive and expansionist, about to attack Russia, Putin is forced to "retaliate first" because NATO is going to attack him any moment now.

[Heracleum Persicum]

if only you could enjoy the asurdity of that as much as I do.

schrodginers europe -

a) passified and pussified, armies gone rusty, sliding into irrreversable dotage, too scare for conflict any more after the horrors of ww2.

b) aggresive and expansionist, about to attack Russia, Putin is forced to "retaliate first" because NATO is going to attack him any moment now.

German, European prosperity was based on Cheap Gas and many other commodities from Russia

Brits conspired with US to end this .. Europe will now pay the price.

Now, Russians selling those "Cheap Gas" Europe was getting to China @ market price, piped .. and getting Yuan for that.

Chinese on the other side, liquidating their U$ for Gold .. and replacing US market with Russian and Global South market.

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[noddy]

do you have any plans for whom to blame when the Anglos are fully diminished ?

maybe the chinese, those Han are certainly sneeky flickers.

[Heracleum Persicum]

do you have any plans for whom to blame when the Anglos are fully diminished ?

maybe the chinese, those Han are certainly sneek flickers.

Iranians say West should Show "Respect"


The Neocons Strike Back
How a discredited foreign policy ideology
continues to wreak havoc in Washington and around the world


The white man's enemy is not in Tehran, Moscow, Beijing .. it is within

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[noddy]

thats a no.

[Heracleum Persicum]

thats a no.

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If that's a NO, then what is West doin in Middle East ?

What is US doing in Syria ? nobody want US in Syria, not Turks, Not Syrians, Not Russians, Not Iranians, Not Arabs

Same in Iraq .. Iraq Parliament said they want US to leave, many times.
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[Parodite]

I agree with HP on this. West should disengage from the Meddle East completely, minus military support and security guarantees for Israel. That should even be increased. I know it would be a bummer for the Zionist Jew haters, but that is exactly the reason why.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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[noddy]

the EU is shifting to a wartime economy.

https://www.euractiv.com/section/europe ... rial-plan/

Germany and Finland have already started.

https://www.hasepost.de/rheinmetall-pla ... nd-443095/

https://defence-industry.eu/finland-to- ... ng-demand/

england now, increasing artillery production by 8 times.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain ... ight-fold/

I read elsewhere France is also tripling production.

getting ready to turn the meat waves into pink mist.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... 3-5-of-gdp

Germany could increase military spending to as much as 3.5% of economic output as it ramps up investment to reverse years of neglect of the armed forces, according to Defense Minister Boris Pistorius.

A commitment by NATO members to spend at least 2% of GDP on defense “can only be the starting point”

also

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Don't waster your time , Ukraine done , finished , end of story

Europe would be *diot to por money in that bottomless pit

and

Europe has much more important problems to deal with at home

Ukraine was fooled by Victoria Nuland she has blood of half a million Ukrainians on her hand

Ukraine was fooled and paid a price for that .. should be a lesson to others.
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[noddy]

Im just posting whats happening in Europe, on the Europe thread.


crazy concept, I know, when I should be posting mullah/putin progropanda to all threads.

i apologise.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Im just posting whats happening in Europe, on the Europe thread.

crazy concept, I know, when I should be posting mullah/putin progropanda to all threads.

i apologise.

noddy , you not aware of the big picture

Big picture is "racial" .. white man, in Europe and US, rapidly diminishing, many reason for low birth rate .. you really think US can not control the boarder with Mexico ? it is open door .. to keep population stable.

Russians are part of European and US white "critical mass".

Putin has much less blood on his hand compared to Senior and Junior Bush and Obama and now Biden (sending on daily bases 2000 pound bomb to Natanyahu to dop on Palestinian women and children)

Don't be hard on Putin
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[noddy]

Azari, you are not aware of the actual picture.

I couldnt give a lavender if all the europeans and iranians nuked each other and only exist as historical records.

Putin will be the death of europe, not the savior - he is all that is the worst of that places history, when all the other countries had given up on empire and armies, he wanted to bring back the russian empire and attacked them.

now, the armies are rebuilding and if their is one thing the "white man" is good at, its war machines and slaughter - you are proud Iran has managed to copy some of the european death machines, using european chips, with motherboards made in China.


your racially obsessed ranting is its own thing, I hope you can come to terms with it,

[Heracleum Persicum]

Azari, you are not aware of the actual picture.

I couldnt give a lavender if all the europeans and iranians nuked each other and only exist as historical records.

Putin will be the death of europe, not the savior - he is all that is the worst of that places history, when all the other countries had given up on empire and armies, he wanted to bring back the russian empire and attacked them.

now, the armies are rebuilding.

noddy, there no good if after 10 yrs you realize you were wrong as you were with Iraq, Afghan, Vietnam and a few other cases.


A View From the Frontlines :
Conversation with Colonel Alexander Khodakovsky


Scott, a "Real American Patriot" is very much right.

we will see... your racially obsessed ranting is its own thing, I hope you can come to terms with it.

.. you really funny .. Australia was "white only" immigration country, probably still is .. 2nd generation Indians born in Australia could not fly back home to Australia Covid-19 time .. let alone Chinese immigrant

but, joke aside

look at number, numbers don't lie .. things don't add up
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[Heracleum Persicum]

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EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell
wind is blowing against the West

It is clear that the wind is blowing against the West, it is blowing against us. And we have to win the battle of narratives, on the Middle East and on Ukraine. Those wars are different, with different reasons, and different causes by they are wars for the territory. We were told that the geography doesn't matter anymore. Yes, it matters. These wars are classical wars of people fighting for their land.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Ukraine’s Allies Are Gaming Out a World in Which
the US Retreats

NATO members now talk privately about a Russian attack on one of them as a danger that demands an urgent response, as they grow to doubt that the US will maintain its traditional role of protecting Europe as part of the alliance.

Europe should make up with Russia , good for Europe, good for Russia

A security arrangement deal between Europe and Russia .. that is what Putin proposed from the begin

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[Typhoon]

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Ukraine’s Allies Are Gaming Out a World in Which
the US Retreats

NATO members now talk privately about a Russian attack on one of them as a danger that demands an urgent response, as they grow to doubt that the US will maintain its traditional role of protecting Europe as part of the alliance.

Europe should make up with Russia , good for Europe, good for Russia

A security arrangement deal between Europe and Russia .. that is what Putin proposed from the begin

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No one wants to be Russian.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

So basically the status quo. "Will they/won't they if Russia attacks" is not a news story when it's been the standard anxiety for 70 years now.