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Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:04 pm
by Enki
http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:36 pm
by Jnalum Persicum
Enki wrote:.
http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
.
Tinker
this is old stuff
called "direct democracy"
I debated that
practiced in Switzerland .. very well known
Swiss have : INITIATIVE & REFERENDUM
meaning
if any Swiss
gathers (I think) 100,000 valid signature for any idea that should be enacted as law
if so
Swiss government is obliged to put that issue to referendum and act upon
in fact
Swiss parliament does not introduce laws , people do
called "direct democracy"
but
this will not work in America
it would be death of American Capitalism system
In America, not the people, but the money decides
People think they somebody, but they nobody
people brainwashed and manipulated by elite, money and the smart ass
so
don't bother
not gonno fly
.
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:02 pm
by Parodite
Enki wrote:http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
Interesting. Old school democracy, especially the two-party terror in the US needs a serious update. I'd like to see in direct democracy a possibility for voting on
issues.
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:43 pm
by Enki
Jnalum Persicum wrote:Enki wrote:.
http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
.
Tinker
this is old stuff
called "direct democracy"
I debated that
practiced in Switzerland .. very well known
Swiss have : INITIATIVE & REFERENDUM
meaning
if any Swiss
gathers (I think) 100,000 valid signature for any idea that should be enacted as law
if so
Swiss government is obliged to put that issue to referendum and act upon
in fact
Swiss paramagnetic does not introduce laws , people do
called "direct democracy"
but
this will not work in America
it would be death of American Capitalism system
In America, not the people, but the money decides
People think they somebody, but they nobody
people brainwashed and manipulated by elite, money and the smart ass
so
don't bother
not gonno fly
.
You are going on ignore now. All you ever post is, "I am so much cooler than you because I am Persian."
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:24 pm
by Jnalum Persicum
Enki wrote:Jnalum Persicum wrote:Enki wrote:.
http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
.
Tinker
this is old stuff
called "direct democracy"
I debated that
practiced in Switzerland .. very well known
Swiss have : INITIATIVE & REFERENDUM
meaning
if any Swiss
gathers (I think) 100,000 valid signature for any idea that should be enacted as law
if so
Swiss government is obliged to put that issue to referendum and act upon
in fact
Swiss paramagnetic does not introduce laws , people do
called "direct democracy"
but
this will not work in America
it would be death of American Capitalism system
In America, not the people, but the money decides
People think they somebody, but they nobody
people brainwashed and manipulated by elite, money and the smart ass
so
don't bother
not gonno fly
.
You are going on ignore now. All you ever post is, "I am so much cooler than you because I am Persian."
.
come on, Tinker,
Did not touch on "Persian"
why the outburst ?
Humanität counts not coolness
Just reminded what Finland tinkering with is already in full operation in Switzerland and
works perfectly ..is the best of the best in terms of real democracy .. only in Switzerland people really decide politics and everything else, nowhere else
but
that would not be possible in America (my understanding you working on it)
In America, quite intentionally, money decides everything and not YOU
.
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:40 pm
by Enki
Parodite wrote:Enki wrote:http://gigaom.com/europe/online-crowdso ... n-finland/
This is what I am working toward in the US. Data.gov was the primary reason I voted for Obama, so Obama actually did satisfy my main issue when I was supporting him. Those of you who actually listen to what I say might actually remember me talking about that in 2008.
I've been calling it the "Direct Democracy Engine".
Interesting. Old school democracy, especially the two-party terror in the US needs a serious update. I'd like to see in direct democracy a possibility for voting on
issues.
I don't like that our officials rely on a paucity of data and go with largely private sector polling organizations to find out how people feel about certain issues. If there were a way to directly poll your constituents, that would be the ideal. If I could go down to my Congressman's office take an online poll and let them know about how I feel on every single issue by flipping switches and assigning priorities, that would be a huge step up from current petitioning structures, though not in lieu of petitioning structures.
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:57 am
by Ammianus
What's that refrain again? Oh yes, something about what works in the small, homogenous, easily controlled enivrons are almost impossible to scale up to larger settings in any satisfactory way?
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:59 am
by Enki
Ammianus wrote:What's that refrain again? Oh yes, something about what works in the small, homogenous, easily controlled enivrons are almost impossible to scale up to larger settings in any satisfactory way?
This isn't actually direct democracy, not in any way shape or form really. This is just a mandate that your representatives vote on proposals put forth by the populace.
Re: Crowdsourced Lawmaking
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:57 am
by Mr. Perfect
Can we get crowdsourced un-lawmaking? We have too few laws?