Musicology | Love 'em, Hate 'em

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Never been a collector but all the vinyl guys I know, pace the comment above, complain about the modern quality especially in context of the price. Endless complaints about poor packaging; scratched from the outset or poor engravings; more needle skipping; the "thick" 180 gram vinyl records being a gimmick that doesn't add any quality and more prone to warping....

The one I share with the collectors is that the production for a number of albums that are made for cd/digital in mind just get slapped on a vinyl record. Digital remasterings for analog is silly for self-styled collectors.

Maybe cds will be different because they avoid a lot of issues above, and remain cheaper to produce, but we'll see.

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I didn't make it to a record shop this season to see what people were buying but I did see get some sticker shock while at a Target and noticed albums that were selling for 30 bucks a few years ago now priced at 50+.

[noddy]

I cant see it, only the most ardent audio-woo people might find some magic in a CD, its just a clumsy pre usb , pre internet, storage medium for digital recording.

digital is digital, the only difference in sound is the ADC in the thing playing it, and buying a nice usb interface gets a you into that world.

vinyl has a quaint analogness to it and you can make the raw materials for it without mass industry support - cd's are barely being made anymore and you cant do it at home.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

I'm in the never say never camp of what people will collect but you are likely right.

I try to pump the collector-dudes [TM] for information all the time about who is buying what, etc., and not a peep from all but one about noticing more cd sales in second-hand markets. We'd see it there first if there was an actual demand for it.

The vinyl record, besides just being an analog thing, sells the artwork much better. A % of people will buy the packaging for the one and not for the other.

The superiority of any physical media will still be the ability to put it away. They are more focused experiences which come to an end, and as someone put it, you return to an improved silence.

[noddy]

the cd booklet was always a step down from the album cover, specially for older eyes.

while i get the album experience angle - even in my favourite bands I can only muster a handful of albums that have no skip worthy tunes.

a curated playlist is nearly always better for me, the artists intended listening order is just one of the options, its more often Im in a zone for a particular type of music and want all their upbeat tracks across all their albums, or all their moody ones, or whatever.

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none of which means im right, collector fashion and audio woo are outside the scope of my perception.

[noddy]

noir/dark jazz, its a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xBzjetBoeA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyORieDhpkg

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

the cd booklet was always a step down from the album cover, specially for older eyes.

while i get the album experience angle - even in my favourite bands I can only muster a handful of albums that have no skip worthy tunes.

a curated playlist is nearly always better for me, the artists intended listening order is just one of the options, its more often Im in a zone for a particular type of music and want all their upbeat tracks across all their albums, or all their moody ones, or whatever.

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none of which means im right, collector fashion and audio woo are outside the scope of my perception.

I lean more this way myself, though I do really think there is something (and love the allusion) to putting the music away as opposed to forever being suspended digitally.

But at this point and the foreseeable future, it's spilt milk. Nothing anyone is going to do about it, even if it were a pressing concern. The convenience/price/nonsense points make it about the equivalent of arguing over the superiority of horse&buggy to the automobile.

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As far as intended orders go; almost no performer plays it live that way. The number of acts that play their latest album from start to finish as one explicit statement or piece of art is rare enough that it becomes a talking point. And the majority of these commercial products are contrived to be one work of art. So at one point is one obligated to keep up contrivances?

Then of course certain people get certain treatments-- I'm not going to willy-nilly cut up Miles Davis's work but I wouldn't think twice about The Byrds or Stone Temple Pilots or Destiny's Child.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Starsiren- Promise

Lit- My Own Worst Enemy

The Choir of Saint John's College- Good King Wenceslas

[Typhoon]

Dietrich | The Laziest Girl in Town

Kahn | I'm Tired

The Dietrich performance that inspired the satire.

[noddy]

this person https://twitter.com/OzKitsch

has been posting 100 classic bits of strayiana, 100% prime cringe material to the modern eye

https://twitter.com/hashtag/coldest100? ... htag_click

im loving it, wallowing in it.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

It says it's from 2008 but you could splice it right into the Kennedy assassination film and not tell the difference

[Miss_Faucie_Fishtits]

It says it's from 2008 but you could splice it right into the Kennedy assassination film and not tell the difference

I'm obsessed on some one not trippin' on their pom poms....'>.......

[noddy]

of many surreal items.

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one i enjoyed was the cheesy chinese traditional take on australian traditional - they must have struggled to nail down wtf to do.



vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9E40nYa-5A

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tho according to this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_Go_the_Shears the chinese have used this before as their bit of "australian culture"

a pub singalong is about as close to culture as we get I spose - even if it is a ripped off american civil war melody.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Yussef Dayes- Malibu

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Yay or nay on Take Five?

Seems I ran into a crowd who passionately hate it.

I don't get it. Is it so played out that it's not something to search out for? Sure. And the lick if kinda annoying to hear multiple times.

As a recording/performance it's impeccable; including the tiny imperfections. It has such good space and restraint going on.

[noddy]

its acquired the re-evaluation from the sanctimonious hipster crowd of being the "whyt ppl" jazz, so must be rejected on that basis.

personally, its a cracking tune, right up with the other classics of that era when jazz was still alive.

[noddy]

Yussef Dayes- Malibu

this is nice, but very .. tasteful.. i can imagine it in a swanky rich persons apartment at a dinner soiree.

[noddy]

Ive mentioned them before but im on another stranglers kick at the moment, a massively underrated innovator of british post punk into new wave.

they are a direct line from the kinks, the other under appreciated group for the impact they had.

punky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqZq9uUAmDo

sleazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2w0rbp6J9Y

moody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFoDEQXJLcQ

sombre pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYQTL-ws6p4

any many more besides

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they even have a kinks cover which sounds authentic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6k3tNNRS_I

[noddy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ytLiEHuk0

this guy is a beast

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Very quickly off-topic with apologies:

Australia has been coming up here, in the flesh, lately. A cousin found an interview in Trove featuring my grandmother; her great-grandmother. We'd no clue this stuff existed.

It was more or less advertising for whatever shows she was doing but all sorts of stuff ended up covered in the interview that was otherwise lost (or we were uncertain about) with her passing.

[noddy]

Very quickly off-topic with apologies:

Australia has been coming up here, in the flesh, lately. A cousin found an interview Trove featuring my grandmother; her great-grandmother. We'd no clue this stuff existed.

It was more or less advertising for whatever shows she was doing but all sorts of stuff ended up covered in the interview that was otherwise lost (or we were uncertain about) with her passing.

thats cool.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

yeah, it's here nor there but mention of Australia Day and music reminds me of her; in our last conversation, she told me-- and it was the only time she ever talked about it with me-- a story about being in Perth on Australia Day. Unfortunately, most of what was actually said has faded from memory.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Yussef Dayes- Malibu

this is nice, but very .. tasteful.. i can imagine it in a swanky rich persons apartment at a dinner soiree.

Yes I can hear that.

I think I like this track a bit better

and then there is this from Later From Jools Holland

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Ive mentioned them before but im on another stranglers kick at the moment, a massively underrated innovator of british post punk into new wave.

they are a direct line from the kinks, the other under appreciated group for the impact they had.

punky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqZq9uUAmDo

sleazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2w0rbp6J9Y

moody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFoDEQXJLcQ

sombre pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYQTL-ws6p4

any many more besides

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they even have a kinks cover which sounds authentic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6k3tNNRS_I

Great bass sound for the context.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

I've not touched a bass guitar in a long while, just haven't been hearing it.

I'm lacking that delusional self confidence that something great is about to come out.

Instead, I'm stuck in lydian- actually, I've developed this awful habit where I just default to lydian.

And feel like my approach to playing has been unfocused, doing too much.

[noddy]

lydian doesnt exist, its just phrygian with tension

my current amusement, to break out of my minor rut, is mixolydian with a flat 6, which kinda wobbles between diatonic and whole tone.

which is my favroute thing in the minor world - phyrigian or dorian with a flat 5, which wobbles between diatonic and diminished.