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Enki wrote:http://www.slate.com/articles/technolog ... oding.html

Research suggests we may actually face a declining world population in the coming years.

Typhoon wrote:

Enki wrote:http://www.slate.com/articles/technolog ... oding.html

Not too surprising. One thing that has been empirically observed is that as societies industrialize the birth rate plummets.

The overpopulation meme will probably not die out until it's proponents do.

Guys such as Paul Ehrlich are still cited as experts with insight despite having been dead wrong in their predictions for decades:

WUWT | Great moments in failed predictions

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"There are different opinions on whether this means that the demographic dividend that has driven growth in China for many years is now coming to an end," he added, noting that it was only the start of a long-term trend that would see steady decreases in the working age population each and every year between now and at least 2030.

Mr Ma described last year's drop as "worrying", even as the Chinese economy rebounded in the fourth quarter. China's gross domestic product grew 7.9 per cent year-on-year in the final three months, up from 7.4 per cent in the third quarter and breaking a streak of seven consecutive weaker quarters.

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Typhoon wrote:

Enki wrote:http://www.slate.com/articles/technolog ... oding.html

Not too surprising. One thing that has been empirically observed is that as societies industrialize the birth rate plummets.

The overpopulation meme will probably not die out until it's proponents do.

Guys such as Paul Ehrlich are still cited as experts with insight despite having been dead wrong in their predictions for decades:

WUWT | Great moments in failed predictions

"Most countries begin to upgrade their economic model and raise productivity when faced with declining populations," said Vincent Chan, an economist at Credit Suisse. "Wage increases, more automation and production of better-quality products are all likely to become stronger structural trends in China."

Mr. Perfect wrote:Boy, it could inspire you to adopt the pseudonym of Oswald Spengler and lament mankind's destruction.

You guys aren't behind the curve at all.

Apollonius wrote: I'd say that today it's exactly the wrong people who are having too many kids. Shame on them).

Enki wrote:

Mr. Perfect wrote:Boy, it could inspire you to adopt the pseudonym of Oswald Spengler and lament mankind's destruction.

You guys aren't behind the curve at all.

I love how life to you is like Nielsen ratings.

Mr. Perfect wrote: I guess.

I don't love how life for you guys is like the old Arnold movie about last man standing survival for reality TV. Your commitment to destroying human existence is astonishing.

Mr. Perfect wrote:Whatever little fairy tales you tell yourself, fine with me.

When governments go bankrupt and the helpless die in the streets because of it I will think of you guys.

Enki wrote: It's basic understanding of how the world works. Fairy tales are that no matter what we need to breed more and make more money.

If you weren't an ideological quotebot

you might note that many of us have children and are carrying on into the next generation.

If that happens, I'll definitely think of you as well.

Mr. Perfect wrote:

Enki wrote: It's basic understanding of how the world works. Fairy tales are that no matter what we need to breed more and make more money.

When you set up ponzi scheme societies, that's exactly what you have to do. Or you'll all die. Or most of you anyway.

If you weren't an ideological quotebot

As you have found out recently, you have to speak in a language your audience understands.

you might note that many of us have children and are carrying on into the next generation.

Anecdotes don't overcome averages (see OP)

If that happens, I'll definitely think of you as well.

I'm often told people think of me often after spending any time around me. I don't know if that is good or bad though.

Mr. Perfect wrote:Just being honest.

Enki wrote: You were always talking like you were a political hack selling a candidate to a credulous electorate. That is by its very nature dishonest.

You're probably right, you will die, and from your perspective everyone in the world is going to die with you.

Mr. Perfect wrote:

Enki wrote: It's basic understanding of how the world works. Fairy tales are that no matter what we need to breed more and make more money.

When you set up ponzi scheme societies, that's exactly what you have to do. Or you'll all die. Or most of you anyway.

If you weren't an ideological quotebot

As you have found out recently, you have to speak in a language your audience understands.

you might note that many of us have children and are carrying on into the next generation.

Anecdotes don't overcome averages (see OP)

If that happens, I'll definitely think of you as well.

I'm often told people think of me often after spending any time around me. I don't know if that is good or bad though.

Enki wrote:

Typhoon wrote:

Enki wrote:http://www.slate.com/articles/technolog ... oding.html

Not too surprising. One thing that has been empirically observed is that as societies industrialize the birth rate plummets.

The overpopulation meme will probably not die out until it's proponents do.

Guys such as Paul Ehrlich are still cited as experts with insight despite having been dead wrong in their predictions for decades:

WUWT | Great moments in failed predictions

Well, another issue with industrialization is that consumption goes up. If your population goes down by 10% total but consumption goes up by 15%...