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Typhoon wrote:

Endovelico wrote:

Ibrahim wrote:http://www.loonwatch.com/2013/03/pope-f ... -mohammed/

Pope Francis’ run-in with Benedict XVI over the Prophet Mohammed
By Alasdair Baverstock

In 2005, then Pope Benedict quoted from an obscure medieval text which declared that the Prophet Mohammed, founder of the Islamic faith, was “evil and inhuman”, enraging the Muslim population and causing attacks on churches throughout the world before an apology was issued.

Reacting within days to the statements, speaking through a spokesman to Newsweek Argentina, then Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio declared his “unhappiness” with the statements, made at the University of Regensburg in Germany, and encouraged many of his subordinates with the Church to do the same.

“Pope Benedict’s statement don’t reflect my own opinions”, the then Archbishop of Buenos Aires declared. “These statements will serve to destroy in 20 seconds the careful construction of a relationship with Islam that Pope John Paul II built over the last twenty years”.

The Vatican reacted quickly, removing one subordinate, Joaquín Piña the Archbishop of Puerto Iguazú from his post within four days of his making similar statements to the Argentine national media, sending a clear statement to Cardinal Bergoglio that he would be next should he choose to persist.

Reacting to the threats from Rome, Cardinal Bergoglio cancelled his plans to fly to Rome, choosing to boycott the second synod that Pope Benedict had called during his tenure as pontiff.

“The only thing that didn’t happen to Bergoglio was being removed from his post”, wrote investigative journalist Horacio Verbitsky in his column in left-wing daily newspaper Página/24. “The Vatican was very quick to react.”

This incident shows clearly some of the things which make the difference between being German or being "Latino"...

Stereotype much?

Endovelico wrote:

Zack Morris wrote:Unless he aggressively expands the role of women in the Church (it's probably a bit much to hope for allowing them to join the priesthood), all his work will be for naught and the Church will continue to circle the toilet bowl of history.

In your opinion what role should women have in the Church?

Zack Morris wrote:

Endovelico wrote:

Zack Morris wrote:Unless he aggressively expands the role of women in the Church (it's probably a bit much to hope for allowing them to join the priesthood), all his work will be for naught and the Church will continue to circle the toilet bowl of history.

In your opinion what role should women have in the Church?

Same as men: full eligibility for any role in the hierarchy of priests, including the papacy. I can't think of a single reason why not. In the United States, religious women (nuns) seem to be the only part of the Catholic Church still concerned with living a Christ-like life. I think the Church would be better off run by a devoted, warm, motherly figure rather than the detached, cold fathers it has always had.

In fact, maybe men should be made ineligible for the cloth for some period of time until the Church can be revitalized and restored by female leadership.

Endovelico wrote:

Typhoon wrote:

Endovelico wrote:

Ibrahim wrote:http://www.loonwatch.com/2013/03/pope-f ... -mohammed/

Pope Francis’ run-in with Benedict XVI over the Prophet Mohammed
By Alasdair Baverstock

In 2005, then Pope Benedict quoted from an obscure medieval text which declared that the Prophet Mohammed, founder of the Islamic faith, was “evil and inhuman”, enraging the Muslim population and causing attacks on churches throughout the world before an apology was issued.

Reacting within days to the statements, speaking through a spokesman to Newsweek Argentina, then Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio declared his “unhappiness” with the statements, made at the University of Regensburg in Germany, and encouraged many of his subordinates with the Church to do the same.

“Pope Benedict’s statement don’t reflect my own opinions”, the then Archbishop of Buenos Aires declared. “These statements will serve to destroy in 20 seconds the careful construction of a relationship with Islam that Pope John Paul II built over the last twenty years”.

The Vatican reacted quickly, removing one subordinate, Joaquín Piña the Archbishop of Puerto Iguazú from his post within four days of his making similar statements to the Argentine national media, sending a clear statement to Cardinal Bergoglio that he would be next should he choose to persist.

Reacting to the threats from Rome, Cardinal Bergoglio cancelled his plans to fly to Rome, choosing to boycott the second synod that Pope Benedict had called during his tenure as pontiff.

“The only thing that didn’t happen to Bergoglio was being removed from his post”, wrote investigative journalist Horacio Verbitsky in his column in left-wing daily newspaper Página/24. “The Vatican was very quick to react.”

This incident shows clearly some of the things which make the difference between being German or being "Latino"...

Stereotype much?

No. Scientific method. Observation and inference. You should have heard about it...

Typhoon wrote:

Endovelico wrote:

Typhoon wrote:

Endovelico wrote:

Ibrahim wrote:http://www.loonwatch.com/2013/03/pope-f ... -mohammed/

Pope Francis’ run-in with Benedict XVI over the Prophet Mohammed
By Alasdair Baverstock

In 2005, then Pope Benedict quoted from an obscure medieval text which declared that the Prophet Mohammed, founder of the Islamic faith, was “evil and inhuman”, enraging the Muslim population and causing attacks on churches throughout the world before an apology was issued.

Reacting within days to the statements, speaking through a spokesman to Newsweek Argentina, then Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio declared his “unhappiness” with the statements, made at the University of Regensburg in Germany, and encouraged many of his subordinates with the Church to do the same.

“Pope Benedict’s statement don’t reflect my own opinions”, the then Archbishop of Buenos Aires declared. “These statements will serve to destroy in 20 seconds the careful construction of a relationship with Islam that Pope John Paul II built over the last twenty years”.

The Vatican reacted quickly, removing one subordinate, Joaquín Piña the Archbishop of Puerto Iguazú from his post within four days of his making similar statements to the Argentine national media, sending a clear statement to Cardinal Bergoglio that he would be next should he choose to persist.

Reacting to the threats from Rome, Cardinal Bergoglio cancelled his plans to fly to Rome, choosing to boycott the second synod that Pope Benedict had called during his tenure as pontiff.

“The only thing that didn’t happen to Bergoglio was being removed from his post”, wrote investigative journalist Horacio Verbitsky in his column in left-wing daily newspaper Página/24. “The Vatican was very quick to react.”

This incident shows clearly some of the things which make the difference between being German or being "Latino"...

Stereotype much?

No. Scientific method. Observation and inference. You should have heard about it...

Nothing scientific about stereotyping.

Ibrahim wrote:I don't know, it just seems like if I was asked to come up with a series of criticisms of the Benedict XVI papacy I wouldn't put "was German" on the list. Bigger fish to fry.