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Who is Jorge Mario Bergoglio ?



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Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
Who is Jorge Mario Bergoglio ?
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Certainly he is NOT the same man as Pope Francis. Now that he has undisputed power and protected position, his actions are much less restrained.

It is worth noting that in the wake of the military coup in Chile on September 11,1973, the Cardinal of Santiago de Chile, Raul Silva Henriquez openly condemned the military junta led by General Augusto Pinochet. In marked contrast to Argentina, this stance of the Catholic hierarchy in Chile was instrumental in curbing the tide of political assassinations and human rights violations directed against supporters of Salvador Allende and opponents of the military regime

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from the linked article. It gives the lie to the argument that under a repressive dictatorship, you have to work quietly behind the scenes and cannot say much.

A conservative old man with a dubious past. Not exactly an inspiring choice.

But he knows how to woo the media. Loved the story about how he "slipped out" of the Vatican to pray at a small church. Naturally, he took a couple of journalists with him.

If a Pope sneaks out of the Vatican and nobody is around to take pictures, does he actually pray?

Torchwood wrote:.

It is worth noting that in the wake of the military coup in Chile on September 11,1973, the Cardinal of Santiago de Chile, Raul Silva Henriquez openly condemned the military junta led by General Augusto Pinochet. In marked contrast to Argentina, this stance of the Catholic hierarchy in Chile was instrumental in curbing the tide of political assassinations and human rights violations directed against supporters of Salvador Allende and opponents of the military regime

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from the linked article. It gives the lie to the argument that under a repressive dictatorship, you have to work quietly behind the scenes and cannot say much.

A conservative old man with a dubious past. Not exactly an inspiring choice.

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The RCC has not learned the lesson, or learned the wrong lesson, from history .. what the WESTERN world needs now, after going the wrong path after the "Reformation fiasco", is AN HONEST MORAL BEACON, and not a ex Hitler-youth or Jesuit (Pfui) taking the helm of western civilization and culture .. Christianity needs a SPIRITUAL revolution, a cultural revolution .. instead, RCC has chosen more of the same (disaster of last 500 yrs) .. you guys will be astonished to hear, that, in that sense, Islam is ahead of Christianity as Islam reformation now will encompasses the ZeitGeist of struggle against the modern age "devil" (west) .. unfortunately, RCC in the same boat with the modern age devil



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the pope being a conservative old man is not really a shock.

the practicing catholic demographics without the boomers and war gen are going to severely drop that "1 billion ish" number that gets bandied about.

I think this Pope was a good choice from what I have heard about him so far.