noddy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:57 am
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:35 am
noddy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:28 am
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:08 am
noddy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:25 am
so it opens the question of panspermia or other such things.
Science of the gaps
exactly.
this is only a problem for some flavours of religion, a god that recedes - with science its the ho hum status quo, every answer triggers another question.
I don't know about that.
poorly expressed on a grumpy day.
the gaps are builtin for science, philosophical concerns with those gaps is a different subject all together.
Now we're goin' from science of the gaps to the philosophy of the absent...or is that the absence of philosophy in the science of the gaps all within a god-shaped hole?
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I haven't caught up with the thread yet but to reiterate with a little bit of seriousness, I'm not bringing divinity into it; yet the counter-argument, if one is to be made, does start with a discussing language difficulties.
When we talk about item X, all we are discussing is language and language agreements.
One would then argue the biological answer founders because it doesn't pass the test between being a language common to all and a language shared by some-- the latter being very much the mark of language games. As a contrast of fields, physics and chemistry and mathematics do not (often) run into these problems-- and the argument would need to demonstrate how they are languages common to all.
The extreme skepticism that anything is actually being said, that these birdsongs amount to
something one needs to listen to, doesn't lessen when the arguments are to fold within themselves on appeals to utility; regulative principles; consensus within a group; and the mystification and romance of the profession.
Traveling to the origins of this biological soup of...err...biology...the controversy among the educated opposition to those radical materialists and their transmutation of species was instructive because of what it says about language.
Preservation, species itself, the
immortality of flora and fauna...all grammatical points.