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Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 3:55 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Pope Francis is not saying anything new or changing anything about Roman Catholicism. He is simply moving the public discussion back to pre-Christian roots so he can reach more people and refresh the Church on spiritual fundamentals.
I see him as a revivalist working to rebuild faith from the ground up and not as a reformer making sweeping changes in theology or praxis. A good and necessary plan for a pope, imho. If he was to extend his homilies to the max I'm sure he would end up preaching orthodox Roman Catholic dogma.
This is very much the way Jesus was described preaching in Matthew. He spoke to get the crowds to question their spirituality but not to tell them what to think. He would withdraw after public appearances and let the apostles explain and discuss with the crowds in smaller groups. Francis is working much the same way.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:52 am
by noddy
yep, thats what i was trying to get at, expressed more clearly.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:51 am
by Simple Minded
Well said Nonc,
Use current events to get the masses to think about timeless concepts....... Mark of an effective teacher!
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:24 pm
by Typhoon
Nonc Hilaire wrote:I hear this whole thing started with just two gay Irishmen.
Michael Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzmichael.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:24 pm
by Typhoon
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Pope Francis is not saying anything new or changing anything about Roman Catholicism. He is simply moving the public discussion back to pre-Christian roots so he can reach more people and refresh the Church on spiritual fundamentals.
I see him as a revivalist working to rebuild faith from the ground up and not as a reformer making sweeping changes in theology or praxis. A good and necessary plan for a pope, imho. If he was to extend his homilies to the max I'm sure he would end up preaching orthodox Roman Catholic dogma.
This is very much the way Jesus was described preaching in Matthew. He spoke to get the crowds to question their spirituality but not to tell them what to think. He would withdraw after public appearances and let the apostles explain and discuss with the crowds in smaller groups. Francis is working much the same way.
Eloquently said.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:17 pm
by Typhoon
BBC | US Supreme Court rules gay marriage is legal nationwide
It means the 14 states with bans on same-sex marriage will no longer be able to enforce them.
Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote that the plaintiffs asked "for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right."
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:14 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Good and necessary, but I am still astounded that we have gay marriage and not an ERA.
That's perverse.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:11 pm
by Typhoon
I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:18 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
The US has no authentic culture.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:30 am
by Typhoon
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Good and necessary, but I am still astounded that we have gay marriage and not an ERA.
That's perverse.
Wikipedia.
The Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) was a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution designed to guarantee equal rights for women. The ERA was originally written by Alice Paul and Crystal Eastman. In 1923, it was introduced in the Congress for the first time. From the first, the ERA was highly controversial in terms of the meaning of equality for women. It was "feminist against feminist," says historian Judith Sealander; the result was the eventual defeat of the ERA.[1] Middle-class women generally were supportive. Spokesmen for the working class were strongly opposed, arguing that employed women needed special protections regarding working conditions and hours. In 1972, it passed both houses of Congress and was submitted to the state legislatures for ratification. It seemed headed for quick approval until Phyllis Schlafly mobilized conservative women in opposition, arguing that the ERA would disadvantage housewives.
Congress had set a ratification deadline of March 22, 1979. Through 1977, the amendment received 35 of the necessary 38 state ratifications. Five states later rescinded their ratifications before the 1979 deadline. In 1978, a joint resolution of Congress extended the ratification deadline to June 30, 1982, but no further states ratified the amendment and it died. Several feminist organizations continue to work for the adoption of the ERA.
Interesting that adoption of ERA has historically been blocked by women.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:31 am
by Typhoon
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
The US has no authentic culture.
What does type of culture does the US have then?
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:45 am
by Nonc Hilaire
Typhoon wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
The US has no authentic culture.
What does type of culture does the US have then?
Lots of competing subcultures, plus a media-driven nationalism that sometimes passes for culture. Many U.S. cities have a culture, but I don't see a U.S. culture.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:49 pm
by Simple Minded
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Typhoon wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
The US has no authentic culture.
What does type of culture does the US have then?
Lots of competing subcultures, plus a media-driven nationalism that sometimes passes for culture. Many U.S. cities have a culture, but I don't see a U.S. culture.
Well said. This agrees with my own observations. Often a move of ten or fifteen miles can place one in a different culture. Paraphrasing Tip O'Neal "All politics (along with culture and weather) is local!"
Either the central planners are blind to this, or they see it as an impediment to their power that must be over come.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:20 pm
by Typhoon
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Typhoon wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
The US has no authentic culture.
What does type of culture does the US have then?
Lots of competing subcultures, plus a media-driven nationalism that sometimes passes for culture. Many U.S. cities have a culture, but I don't see a U.S. culture.
Understood.
[ I thought that New Orleans certainly had/has a distinct culture, and I'm not referring to the now tourist district of French Quarter.
Likewise Chicago. ]
Now that I think about it, labeling social conservatives or so-called progressives as cultures would be misnomers as both are nothing more than self-appointed would-be altruists intent on minding other people's lives.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:33 pm
by Typhoon
WSJ | [US] Public's Shift on Same-Sex Marriage Was Swift, Broad
A friend informs that after the SCOTUS announcement, people were apparently tweeting "That's it, I'm moving to Canada".
To which the Canadians tweeted back, "No, thank you. Sorry." and "Fyi, gay marriage has been legal across Canada for over a decade."
Well, if the US survived the SCOTUS decision permitting miscegenation between the general, mainly white, heterosexual population and the 13.2% black minority*, the US will also probably survive permitting some 1.3% of the population to marry each other.
*given the genetic makeup of the US black population, a more accurate characterization would be that SCOTUS simply made it official.
If the US does not survive this, then future historians will conclude that it was not much of a nation to begin with.
It had it's moments of great brilliance, but was derailed by obsessing about pissant issues.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:52 pm
by Yukon Cornelius
Typhoon wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
The US has no authentic culture.
What does type of culture does the US have then?
I think it's degenerated to tribalism of a sort -- history is dead, so I don't seem another option.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:28 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Typhoon wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:Typhoon wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
The US has no authentic culture.
What does type of culture does the US have then?
Lots of competing subcultures, plus a media-driven nationalism that sometimes passes for culture. Many U.S. cities have a culture, but I don't see a U.S. culture.
Understood.
[ I thought that New Orleans certainly had/has a distinct culture, and I'm not referring to the now tourist district of French Quarter.
Likewise Chicago. ]
Now that I think about it, labeling social conservatives or so-called progressives as cultures would be misnomers as both are nothing more than self-appointed would-be altruists intent on minding other people's lives.
Louisiana has lots of authentic cultures, but I would not generalize them as
"American". Very geographically specific.
Transgender
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:48 am
by Mr. Perfect
I don't know which forum to put this in, so if mods want to move it I'm amenable.
I'm sort of squeamish, so I'll beat around the bush but you should get the drift. I'm doing this in a liberal forum because I want to know what poster here think.
Transgender (internet)
A sex change apparently is not what make you tranny
Transgender is the state of one's gender identity or gender expression not matching one's assigned sex.[1] Transgender is independent of sexual orientation; transgender people may identify as heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, asexual, etc; some may consider conventional sexual orientation labels inadequate or inapplicable to them. The definition of transgender includes:
Just if you feel different than what is happening between the legs.
So my questions:
1) is what is the word for sex change.
2) What "rights" do trannies not have
3) I accidentally came across information on sex changes. Basically, it's all make believe. A man cannot become woman, physically, and vice versa. So why do I have to pretend men can turn into women and vice versa when they cannot.
Re: Transgender
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:36 am
by YMix
Try Reddit or Tumblr.
Re: Transgender
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:44 am
by Mr. Perfect
For what.
Re: Transgender
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:03 am
by YMix
For the answers you seek, obviously.
Re: Transgender
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:07 am
by Mr. Perfect
Couldn't find 'em. Since we have some sophisticated transphiliacs around here, thought you would love the opportunity to spread your knowledge.
Re: Transgender
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:14 am
by YMix
Re: Transgender
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:22 am
by Mr. Perfect
Couldn't find the answers, there or anywhere. Here is your chance to spread truth. I have no idea why you are stalling.
Re: Transgender
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:27 am
by YMix
Try harder.