Republicans | What are they good for?

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

If one person loses their job by an H1B visa worker H1B being a program to bring in foreign workers when here is NO AMERICAN TO TAKE A JOB AVAILABLE, then it is wrong.

How socialist/merchantilist of you to care

I live beneath the Mouse's tail and know the specifics. The positions were Disney World programmers who ran a system for predicting and optimizing guest experience. Maintainance programmers. Disney operates in many countries, but Disney World is the basic model. F'rinstance, Disney Paris is modeled on Florida but the colors are different, Mickey smokes, Minnie has hairy underarms and Pluto poops on the sidewalk. Language and customs must be compatible with the host country.

Bringing in foreign workers for an international cultural enterprise makes perfect sense. Microsoft and Apple are the world's OS. They need H1-b employees. Anyone on the internet sees what happens with poorly written translation, but poor cultural translation can be worse. Some bean counter mismanaged 23 people in this instance but it was quickly corrected. One stupid, minor mistake. NBD. When WDW China is announced Disney is going to need trained people fluent in the local culture.

The problem is not the US seducing the best and brightest away from Post-colonial Asia with H1-B visas. The problem is that we do not know how to exchange these overachievers by shipping our welfare freeloaders back to Asia where they can fulfill their human potential by stir-frying prawns over a dented hubcap.

Note how everyone (including Trump) in the GOP has ignored Carrier's moving a 1,400 person plant to Mexico. Software is multilingual and multicultural. We need some internationalization in culturally based industries, but craft positions are a different story. This is the hill you want to die on, Doc.

Interesting point.

[noddy]

that would be a hoot.

they might get a shock just how many lower/under class whites do want to move

[Zack Morris]

If one person loses their job by an H1B visa worker H1B being a program to bring in foreign workers when here is NO AMERICAN TO TAKE A JOB AVAILABLE, then it is wrong.

How socialist/merchantilist of you to care

I live beneath the Mouse's tail and know the specifics. The positions were Disney World programmers who ran a system for predicting and optimizing guest experience. Maintainance programmers. Disney operates in many countries, but Disney World is the basic model. F'rinstance, Disney Paris is modeled on Florida but the colors are different, Mickey smokes, Minnie has hairy underarms and Pluto poops on the sidewalk. Language and customs must be compatible with the host country.

Bringing in foreign workers for an international cultural enterprise makes perfect sense. Microsoft and Apple are the world's OS. They need H1-b employees. Anyone on the internet sees what happens with poorly written translation, but poor cultural translation can be worse. Some bean counter mismanaged 23 people in this instance but it was quickly corrected. One stupid, minor mistake. NBD. When WDW China is announced Disney is going to need trained people fluent in the local culture.

The problem is not the US seducing the best and brightest away from Post-colonial Asia with H1-B visas. The problem is that we do not know how to exchange these overachievers by shipping our welfare freeloaders back to Asia where they can fulfill their human potential by stir-frying prawns over a dented hubcap.

Note how everyone (including Trump) in the GOP has ignored Carrier's moving a 1,400 person plant to Mexico. Software is multilingual and multicultural. We need some internationalization in culturally based industries, but craft positions are a different story. This is the hill you want to die on, Doc.

I think there are some enormous misconceptions about H1B's here. H1B's are rarely employed for linguistic or cultural reasons. They are employed because foreigners make up a large share of the nation's most competent engineers and engineering graduates. Don't believe me? Look at the positions H1Bs occupy and their salaries. This database excludes bonuses and perks, by the way.

My team has a number of H1Bs. No one is involved in localization or anything like that. They're here for their math and development skills. One guy, recently let go as part of a culling of underperformers, was about 28 or 29 years old. Georgia Tech Master's degree in EE plus 2 years work experience before he joined the team. He was being paid $275K/yr. That's the cost of a good developer. He was snapped right back up by his former employer, by the way, for a substantially higher salary in a lower-cost location, too.

[Typhoon]

$275K / yr?

No wonder all these US start up companies burn through billions.

[Doc]

$275K / yr?

No wonder all these US start up companies burn through billions.

Mostly employed by guys that never finished college, and can end up with billions.

[noddy]

my experience with capitalists has always been positive - motivated and willing to pay to get things done.

cough.

lucky for zack he lives in a country which minimizes the bucket of crabs effect and these things happen, its not so so true for any of those socialist countries (*)



* im thinking of that article about how 90% of startups are merkin.

[Simple Minded]

my experience with capitalists has always been positive - motivated and willing to pay to get things done.

cough.

lucky for zack he lives in a country which minimizes the bucket of crabs effect and these things happen, its not so so true for any of those socialist countries (*)



* im thinking of that article about how 90% of startups are merkin.

that's only because the crabs are happy in the bucket, want the other crabs to be as happy as they are..........

It's called empathy...... some claim it's a virtue.....

[Simple Minded]

The problem is not the US seducing the best and brightest away from Post-colonial Asia with H1-B visas. The problem is that we do not know how to exchange these overachievers by shipping our welfare freeloaders back to Asia where they can fulfill their human potential by stir-frying prawns over a dented hubcap.

Now I'm really confused.

It sounds like you have the solution.....

build walls and rafts?

Close. Amphibious food trucks. Every company who does a H1-B hire must also buy a food stamp family a floating Ford cookmobile and send them abroad.

Your plan is good. This guy's plan is better.

http://www.nydailynews.com/complete-gui ... -1.2549397

1. "We" elect someone they can't stand as POTUS.
2. "They" flee the country.
3. "We" build a wall while "they" are on the other side.

Brilliant & Bi-Partisan.

"Everyone" thought self-deportation would be difficult.

So far, Phase 1 looks good.

Trump needs to give a 2016 version of MLK Jr's "I have a Dream" speech.

I have a dream...... some day we will not be judged not on the color of our skin....., but on who we voted for for POTUS
....someday partisan Republicans and Democrats live peacefully side by side...... after they have self-deportated to some other country......

System is broke my ass!

[Zack Morris]

$275K / yr?

No wonder all these US start up companies burn through billions.

Startup salaries are much, much lower. Admittedly, we are on the high side, and are not a tech firm per se, but there are tech firms that pay their H1Bs comparably. Netflix is a good example. And with stock options, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, etc. are similar, too. None of these are startups by the way. All are publicly traded companies that are eating the world. Fun as it is to bash startups, what other country has produced as many world-changing companies in the last 20 years as the US? Asia certainly would do well to learn from us. Indeed, they are trying.

Point is: the immigrant labor debate is complicated. The narrative that Americans are being replaced wholesale by cheaper labor is nonsense. There really aren't enough Americans able to do the job.

Mostly employed by guys that never finished college, and can end up with billions.

"College is a leftist indoctrination camp; you shouldn't need college to succeed in business!"

"Startup founders don't have college degrees -- that's not right!"



Make up your mind. At any rate, startup founders lacking degrees are rare unicorns. Off the top of my head I can only think of Gates, Zuckerberg, and that Indian guy who beat up his girlfriend. Founders and their employees are usually at the top of the global academic pyramid. Doctorates are common.

[Typhoon]

$275K / yr?

No wonder all these US start up companies burn through billions.

Startup salaries are much, much lower. Admittedly, we are on the high side, and are not a tech firm per se, but there are tech firms that pay their H1Bs comparably. Netflix is a good example. And with stock options, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, etc. are similar, too. None of these are startups by the way. All are publicly traded companies that are eating the world. Fun as it is to bash startups, what other country has produced as many world-changing companies in the last 20 years as the US? Asia certainly would do well to learn from us. Indeed, they are trying.

Quite.

Mostly employed by guys that never finished college, and can end up with billions.

"College is a leftist indoctrination camp; you shouldn't need college to succeed in business!"

"Startup founders don't have college degrees -- that's not right!"



Make up your mind. At any rate, startup founders lacking degrees are rare unicorns. Off the top of my head I can only think of Gates, Zuckerberg, and that Indian guy who beat up his girlfriend. Founders and their employees are usually at the top of the global academic pyramid. Doctorates are common.

Indeed.

The Gates and Zuckerbergs are the myth-making exceptions.

[YMix]

Plus, the companies started by college drop-outs demand degrees just like any other company.

[Zack Morris]

It is unfortunate but people often want to hire people that are just like themselves. We also tend to want to affirm our status by ensuring no one less "qualified" gets hired. After all, if someone without a college degree can do my job, what does it say about me and my fancy degree, right?

[YMix]

Travis County GOP Apoplectic Over New Chairman

The newly elected chair of the Republican Party in the county that includes the Texas Capitol spent most of election night tweeting about former Gov. Rick Perry’s sexual orientation and former President Bill Clinton’s penis, and insisting that members of the Bush family should be in jail.

He also found time to call Hillary Clinton an “angry bull dyke” and accuse his county vice chair of betraying the values of the Republican Party.

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[Typhoon]

This Morrow character is hilarious.

He also has a way with words: "Gay foam party."

Given his confidence in his gaydar, and his apparent knowledge of the lifestyle, would not be at all surprised if he is also a swinging door if not a revolving one.

That and a self-proclaimed GILF monger.

[Typhoon]

Reason | How Mitt Romney Is Totally Wrong About Donald Trump

The billionaire blowhard isn't a threat to modern Republicanism. He's its perfect distillation..

If the Republicrats should be creating a hagiography of anyone, it should be Clinton, not Reagan

Clinton and that pinko commie Eisenhower.

[Brecher]

Travis County GOP Apoplectic Over New Chairman

The newly elected chair of the Republican Party in the county that includes the Texas Capitol spent most of election night tweeting about former Gov. Rick Perry’s sexual orientation and former President Bill Clinton’s penis, and insisting that members of the Bush family should be in jail.

He also found time to call Hillary Clinton an “angry bull dyke” and accuse his county vice chair of betraying the values of the Republican Party.

[...]

Maybe he should have run for President.

[Doc]

Reason | How Mitt Romney Is Totally Wrong About Donald Trump

The billionaire blowhard isn't a threat to modern Republicanism. He's its perfect distillation..

If the Republicrats should be creating a hagiography of anyone, it should be Clinton, not Reagan

Clinton and that pinko commie Eisenhower.

Clinton had a line item veto (and a republican congress that did not like deficits) until the Democrats in congress sued and the SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional. Now Obama has a republican congress that forced a sequester on Obama. But you forgot to mention Nixon....

[Typhoon]

Reason | How Mitt Romney Is Totally Wrong About Donald Trump

The billionaire blowhard isn't a threat to modern Republicanism. He's its perfect distillation..

If the Republicrats should be creating a hagiography of anyone, it should be Clinton, not Reagan

Clinton and that pinko commie Eisenhower.

Clinton had a line item veto (and a republican congress that did not like deficits) until the Democrats in congress sued and the SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional.

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Now Obama has a republican congress that forced a sequester on Obama. But you forgot to mention Nixon....

I was debating in my mind whether or not to mention Nixon as his run was actually not that long.
Also there were all those off-budget shenanigans related to funding the Vietnam War.
As with Bush II and Iraq.

Anyways, like Eisenhower, he was certainly another pinko commie fluoridating pansy in Republicrat clothing.

While the US Interstate project is hard to beat,
Nixon did establish diplomatic relations with Commie China, create the EPA, and introduce wage and price controls.

[Typhoon]

Travis County GOP Apoplectic Over New Chairman

The newly elected chair of the Republican Party in the county that includes the Texas Capitol spent most of election night tweeting about former Gov. Rick Perry’s sexual orientation and former President Bill Clinton’s penis, and insisting that members of the Bush family should be in jail.

He also found time to call Hillary Clinton an “angry bull dyke” and accuse his county vice chair of betraying the values of the Republican Party.

[...]

Maybe he should have run for President.

Indeed. Perhaps then we can find out how his monobrow managed to migrate all the way up to his forehead.

[YMix]

We choose the nominee, not the voters: Senior GOP official

Political parties, not voters, choose their presidential nominees, a Republican convention rules member told CNBC, a day after GOP front-runner Donald Trump rolled up more big primary victories.

"The media has created the perception that the voters choose the nomination. That's the conflict here," Curly Haugland, an unbound GOP delegate from North Dakota, told CNBC's "Squawk Box" on Wednesday. He even questioned why primaries and caucuses are held.

Haugland is one of 112 Republican delegates who are not required to cast their support for any one candidate because their states and territories don't hold primaries or caucuses.

Even with Trump's huge projected delegate haul in four state primaries Tuesday, the odds are increasing the billionaire businessman may not ultimately get the 1,237 delegates needed to claim the GOP nomination before the convention.

[...]

[Nonc Hilaire]

We choose the nominee, not the voters: Senior GOP official

Political parties, not voters, choose their presidential nominees, a Republican convention rules member told CNBC, a day after GOP front-runner Donald Trump rolled up more big primary victories.

"The media has created the perception that the voters choose the nomination. That's the conflict here," Curly Haugland, an unbound GOP delegate from North Dakota, told CNBC's "Squawk Box" on Wednesday. He even questioned why primaries and caucuses are held.

Haugland is one of 112 Republican delegates who are not required to cast their support for any one candidate because their states and territories don't hold primaries or caucuses.

Even with Trump's huge projected delegate haul in four state primaries Tuesday, the odds are increasing the billionaire businessman may not ultimately get the 1,237 delegates needed to claim the GOP nomination before the convention.

[...]

Yes. Political party members are like AAA or Sam's Club members. Primaries are essentially focus groups. This is proven by the Democratic party superdelegate system.

[Typhoon]

Expensive as focus groups go, no?

[Nonc Hilaire]

Expensive as focus groups go, no?

Yes, but it has psychological benefits too. Once folks submit their autonomy to a political brand they tend to stick with it.

[Simple Minded]

Expensive as focus groups go, no?

Yes, but it has psychological benefits too. Once folks submit their autonomy to a political brand they tend to stick with it.

Very true.

The influence of group identity or peer pressure is tough to overestimate for some individuals. Many will choose to live self-destructive, counter-productive lives as members in good standing of their chosen group/culture/religion/ideology rather than actually solve perennial problems and improve their quality of life.

Modifying the old saw: "Most people would rather fit in than be happy."

[YMix]

Michele Bachmann warns Obama will take over the United Nations — and then reveal he’s the Antichrist

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