Issues of Race in the USA

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Orioles VP Angelos Makes Profound Statement Following Baltimore Protests

Brett, speaking only for myself, I agree with your point that the principle of peaceful, non-violent protest and the observance of the rule of law is of utmost importance in any society. MLK, Gandhi, Mandela, and all great opposition leaders throughout history have always preached this precept. Further, it is critical that in any democracy investigation must be completed and due process must be honored before any government or police members are judged responsible.

That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.

The innocent working families of all backgrounds whose lives and dreams have been cut short by excessive violence, surveillance, and other abuses of the Bill of Rights by government pay the true price, an ultimate price, and one that far exceeds the importance of any kids’ game played tonight, or ever, at Camden Yards. We need to keep in mind people are suffering and dying around the U.S., and while we are thankful no one was injured at Camden Yards, there is a far bigger picture for poor Americans in Baltimore and everywhere who don’t have jobs and are losing economic civil and legal rights, and this makes inconvenience at a ball game irrelevant in light of the needless suffering government is inflicting upon ordinary Americans.”

"Not exactly what the US Department of Truth wanted to hear."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-2 ... owners-son


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[Typhoon]

Indeed.

[Typhoon]

Can't we all just get along . . .

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[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Indeed.

Oh please. Sanctimony belies a short-term memory. I remember, off the top of my head, just such language being used against majority white crowds with : Vancouver '94 after the Stanley Cup, Woodstock '99, Boston '04 after the Red Sox won. Of course, the media usually downplays riots until businesses are attacked. Those college kids destroy property but usually don't bother with burning down CVS stores.

Of course I also remember so called debates over the language used against these riots, where the consensus became that only harsh and judgmental scolds go after enthusiastic kids who aren't fully culpable (for whatever reason.) And surprise, surprise, the language changed for a while until the whim of the consensus does a 180.

It's similar to the current moral panics on college campuses, where schools are trying to reassert past mores (without calling it that, of course) after a generation or two of disassembling those mores because they were outdated, or prudish; or the consensus became that students need the freedom to get as juvenile as possible to express themselves. That was the most important thing in the world, until it wasn't, and now the most important thing in the world is the exact opposite! And anyone who remembers it differently is obviously a monster.

[Typhoon]

Well, it is more than a little amusing that the Free Love Generation is obsessed that their own kids* might be having sex in less than appropriate ways.

*Actually, they are not kids but adults responsible for their own decisions, but childhood has now been apparently extended into at least middle-age.

[Doc]

I don't recall any sports riots leading to this half way across the country:


http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/04/ ... -14-times/

Blue Lives Matter: Texas Cop Survives 14 Stab Wounds in Assassination Attempt

Matthews arrested
Jeremiah M. Matthews in police custody. Fox 26 Video Screenshot

by Bob Price29 Apr 2015487

HOUSTON, Texas – A Houston Community College police officer has survived an assassination attempt after being stabbed by her assailant 14 times. The officer was saved by civilians who stepped in and stopped the attacker. The attacker told investigators he did this to get back at police for their brutality. A spokesman from the family said it might be related to the Baltimore riots.

Officer April Pikes remains in critical condition at Houston’s Ben Taub Hospital, a public relations official at the Houston Police Department said to Breitbart Texas. Her alleged attacker, Jeremiah M. Matthews, 23, was pulled off of her by a group of men while he was stabbing her and attempting to grab her pistol, according to a statement from HPD obtained by Breitbart Texas.

Harris County prosecutors said that Matthews told them “he had the intent to attack a police officer and his desire to kill a police officer,” according to a Click2Houston.com report. One of the witnesses, Abe Baker, who helped stop the attack said, “I saw him on her, just stabbing her.”

“I wasn’t really thinking,” Baker said. “His arm was just up getting ready to stab her and I just grabbed his arm and took him down, and that’s when everybody else came over and we all just took him down.”

The HPD statement revealed that Matthews stabbed her several times before he was tackled and disarmed. The statement says he was attempting to gain control of her duty weapon. After taking down the suspect, the good Samaritans used the officer’s handcuffs to detain Matthews until other police officers arrived and arrested him.

The Click2Houston report states that Pike may lose her right arm. She was stabbed repeatedly in her right arm and torso.

The scene of the attack was a Walmart located in Meyerland (Southwest Houston), where Pikes was working an approved off-duty security job. Pikes was in uniform when she was attacked.

“He was in an upbeat mood, whistling and he had a fast pace, walking fast,” Baker said of the assailant, who was smiling and cheerful right up until the moment he began his surprise attack.

“He does have a diagnostic history of mental illness in the past. To what degree that played into what happened, we don’t know,” local community activist Deric Muhammad said, speaking on behalf of the Matthews family. He said it is possible that Matthews was inspired by the riots in Baltimore Monday night.

The weapon was described as a hunting knife in a report by Fox26Houston’s Kristine Galvan.

“That was an innocent woman. She had family, loved ones,” Abe Baker told Galvan. “That’s someone’s life and everyone’s life counts and matters.”

Baker said he stopped by the Walmart on a late-night errand to pick up some laundry soap, and came to the rescue when he heard Pikes’ screams. His quick action, and the response of the other men, probably saved her life.

“I want to offer my condolences to the victim,” said Vanessa Johnson, Matthews’ mother, in the Fox26 video. “As a mother this is painful. I wish her a speedy recovery. My heart and prayers are going out to her and their entire family.”

The HPD statement from Wednesday morning states that Matthews has been charged with Attempted Capital Murder. His case has been assigned to the 182nd State District Court, which is presided over by Judge Jeannine Barr.

[Nonc Hilaire]

I don't recall any sports riots leading to this half way across the country:


http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/04/ ... -14-times/

Blue Lives Matter: Texas Cop Survives 14 Stab Wounds in Assassination Attempt

Matthews arrested
Jeremiah M. Matthews in police custody. Fox 26 Video Screenshot

by Bob Price29 Apr 2015487

HOUSTON, Texas – A Houston Community College police officer has survived an assassination attempt after being stabbed by her assailant 14 times. The officer was saved by civilians who stepped in and stopped the attacker. The attacker told investigators he did this to get back at police for their brutality. A spokesman from the family said it might be related to the Baltimore riots.

Officer April Pikes remains in critical condition at Houston’s Ben Taub Hospital, a public relations official at the Houston Police Department said to Breitbart Texas. Her alleged attacker, Jeremiah M. Matthews, 23, was pulled off of her by a group of men while he was stabbing her and attempting to grab her pistol, according to a statement from HPD obtained by Breitbart Texas.

Harris County prosecutors said that Matthews told them “he had the intent to attack a police officer and his desire to kill a police officer,” according to a Click2Houston.com report. One of the witnesses, Abe Baker, who helped stop the attack said, “I saw him on her, just stabbing her.”

“I wasn’t really thinking,” Baker said. “His arm was just up getting ready to stab her and I just grabbed his arm and took him down, and that’s when everybody else came over and we all just took him down.”

The HPD statement revealed that Matthews stabbed her several times before he was tackled and disarmed. The statement says he was attempting to gain control of her duty weapon. After taking down the suspect, the good Samaritans used the officer’s handcuffs to detain Matthews until other police officers arrived and arrested him.

The Click2Houston report states that Pike may lose her right arm. She was stabbed repeatedly in her right arm and torso.

The scene of the attack was a Walmart located in Meyerland (Southwest Houston), where Pikes was working an approved off-duty security job. Pikes was in uniform when she was attacked.

“He was in an upbeat mood, whistling and he had a fast pace, walking fast,” Baker said of the assailant, who was smiling and cheerful right up until the moment he began his surprise attack.

“He does have a diagnostic history of mental illness in the past. To what degree that played into what happened, we don’t know,” local community activist Deric Muhammad said, speaking on behalf of the Matthews family. He said it is possible that Matthews was inspired by the riots in Baltimore Monday night.

The weapon was described as a hunting knife in a report by Fox26Houston’s Kristine Galvan.

“That was an innocent woman. She had family, loved ones,” Abe Baker told Galvan. “That’s someone’s life and everyone’s life counts and matters.”

Baker said he stopped by the Walmart on a late-night errand to pick up some laundry soap, and came to the rescue when he heard Pikes’ screams. His quick action, and the response of the other men, probably saved her life.

“I want to offer my condolences to the victim,” said Vanessa Johnson, Matthews’ mother, in the Fox26 video. “As a mother this is painful. I wish her a speedy recovery. My heart and prayers are going out to her and their entire family.”

The HPD statement from Wednesday morning states that Matthews has been charged with Attempted Capital Murder. His case has been assigned to the 182nd State District Court, which is presided over by Judge Jeannine Barr.

Why did you post this? A mentally ill person reactions cannot be generalized. Was he med compliant? Sober? Diagnosis?

[Typhoon]

The syllogistic fallacy:

Crazy stabs cop.
Crazy is black.
All blacks are crazy cop stabbers.

I would guess that about 99% of the internet, that is not porn, consists of the repetition of such syllogistic fallacies.

[Simple Minded]

*Actually, they are not kids but adults responsible for their own decisions, but childhood has now been apparently extended into at least middle-age.

Now you have hit on the real problem in the US and most of the west! Never ending teenage existential angst!

I blame parents!

According to some experts, 99% of Americans are victims!

In the good ole days, when the streets were ruled by gangs of ladies like Toya Graham of Baltimore.... we didn't have these problems.

Just low self-esteem!

When Tiger Moms are outlawed...... society has more outlaws....

[Doc]

I don't recall any sports riots leading to this half way across the country:


http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/04/ ... -14-times/

Blue Lives Matter: Texas Cop Survives 14 Stab Wounds in Assassination Attempt

Matthews arrested
Jeremiah M. Matthews in police custody. Fox 26 Video Screenshot

by Bob Price29 Apr 2015487

HOUSTON, Texas – A Houston Community College police officer has survived an assassination attempt after being stabbed by her assailant 14 times. The officer was saved by civilians who stepped in and stopped the attacker. The attacker told investigators he did this to get back at police for their brutality. A spokesman from the family said it might be related to the Baltimore riots.

Officer April Pikes remains in critical condition at Houston’s Ben Taub Hospital, a public relations official at the Houston Police Department said to Breitbart Texas. Her alleged attacker, Jeremiah M. Matthews, 23, was pulled off of her by a group of men while he was stabbing her and attempting to grab her pistol, according to a statement from HPD obtained by Breitbart Texas.

Harris County prosecutors said that Matthews told them “he had the intent to attack a police officer and his desire to kill a police officer,” according to a Click2Houston.com report. One of the witnesses, Abe Baker, who helped stop the attack said, “I saw him on her, just stabbing her.”

“I wasn’t really thinking,” Baker said. “His arm was just up getting ready to stab her and I just grabbed his arm and took him down, and that’s when everybody else came over and we all just took him down.”

The HPD statement revealed that Matthews stabbed her several times before he was tackled and disarmed. The statement says he was attempting to gain control of her duty weapon. After taking down the suspect, the good Samaritans used the officer’s handcuffs to detain Matthews until other police officers arrived and arrested him.

The Click2Houston report states that Pike may lose her right arm. She was stabbed repeatedly in her right arm and torso.

The scene of the attack was a Walmart located in Meyerland (Southwest Houston), where Pikes was working an approved off-duty security job. Pikes was in uniform when she was attacked.

“He was in an upbeat mood, whistling and he had a fast pace, walking fast,” Baker said of the assailant, who was smiling and cheerful right up until the moment he began his surprise attack.

“He does have a diagnostic history of mental illness in the past. To what degree that played into what happened, we don’t know,” local community activist Deric Muhammad said, speaking on behalf of the Matthews family. He said it is possible that Matthews was inspired by the riots in Baltimore Monday night.

The weapon was described as a hunting knife in a report by Fox26Houston’s Kristine Galvan.

“That was an innocent woman. She had family, loved ones,” Abe Baker told Galvan. “That’s someone’s life and everyone’s life counts and matters.”

Baker said he stopped by the Walmart on a late-night errand to pick up some laundry soap, and came to the rescue when he heard Pikes’ screams. His quick action, and the response of the other men, probably saved her life.

“I want to offer my condolences to the victim,” said Vanessa Johnson, Matthews’ mother, in the Fox26 video. “As a mother this is painful. I wish her a speedy recovery. My heart and prayers are going out to her and their entire family.”

The HPD statement from Wednesday morning states that Matthews has been charged with Attempted Capital Murder. His case has been assigned to the 182nd State District Court, which is presided over by Judge Jeannine Barr.

Why did you post this? A mentally ill person reactions cannot be generalized. Was he med compliant? Sober? Diagnosis?

In his head he was getting even for Baltimore. The two cops assassinated in NYC? Calls to "kill the pigs" had nothing to do with that as well?

The riots solve nothing In fact they make things worse. Instead of riots it should be "Make Black Votes Matter" "Man Up. Go Vote"

[Nonc Hilaire]

I don't recall any sports riots leading to this half way across the country:


http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/04/ ... -14-times/

Blue Lives Matter: Texas Cop Survives 14 Stab Wounds in Assassination Attempt

Matthews arrested
Jeremiah M. Matthews in police custody. Fox 26 Video Screenshot

by Bob Price29 Apr 2015487

HOUSTON, Texas – A Houston Community College police officer has survived an assassination attempt after being stabbed by her assailant 14 times. The officer was saved by civilians who stepped in and stopped the attacker. The attacker told investigators he did this to get back at police for their brutality. A spokesman from the family said it might be related to the Baltimore riots.

Officer April Pikes remains in critical condition at Houston’s Ben Taub Hospital, a public relations official at the Houston Police Department said to Breitbart Texas. Her alleged attacker, Jeremiah M. Matthews, 23, was pulled off of her by a group of men while he was stabbing her and attempting to grab her pistol, according to a statement from HPD obtained by Breitbart Texas.

Harris County prosecutors said that Matthews told them “he had the intent to attack a police officer and his desire to kill a police officer,” according to a Click2Houston.com report. One of the witnesses, Abe Baker, who helped stop the attack said, “I saw him on her, just stabbing her.”

“I wasn’t really thinking,” Baker said. “His arm was just up getting ready to stab her and I just grabbed his arm and took him down, and that’s when everybody else came over and we all just took him down.”

The HPD statement revealed that Matthews stabbed her several times before he was tackled and disarmed. The statement says he was attempting to gain control of her duty weapon. After taking down the suspect, the good Samaritans used the officer’s handcuffs to detain Matthews until other police officers arrived and arrested him.

The Click2Houston report states that Pike may lose her right arm. She was stabbed repeatedly in her right arm and torso.

The scene of the attack was a Walmart located in Meyerland (Southwest Houston), where Pikes was working an approved off-duty security job. Pikes was in uniform when she was attacked.

“He was in an upbeat mood, whistling and he had a fast pace, walking fast,” Baker said of the assailant, who was smiling and cheerful right up until the moment he began his surprise attack.

“He does have a diagnostic history of mental illness in the past. To what degree that played into what happened, we don’t know,” local community activist Deric Muhammad said, speaking on behalf of the Matthews family. He said it is possible that Matthews was inspired by the riots in Baltimore Monday night.

The weapon was described as a hunting knife in a report by Fox26Houston’s Kristine Galvan.

“That was an innocent woman. She had family, loved ones,” Abe Baker told Galvan. “That’s someone’s life and everyone’s life counts and matters.”

Baker said he stopped by the Walmart on a late-night errand to pick up some laundry soap, and came to the rescue when he heard Pikes’ screams. His quick action, and the response of the other men, probably saved her life.

“I want to offer my condolences to the victim,” said Vanessa Johnson, Matthews’ mother, in the Fox26 video. “As a mother this is painful. I wish her a speedy recovery. My heart and prayers are going out to her and their entire family.”

The HPD statement from Wednesday morning states that Matthews has been charged with Attempted Capital Murder. His case has been assigned to the 182nd State District Court, which is presided over by Judge Jeannine Barr.

Why did you post this? A mentally ill person reactions cannot be generalized. Was he med compliant? Sober? Diagnosis?

In his head he was getting even for Baltimore. The two cops assassinated in NYC? Calls to "kill the pigs" had nothing to do with that as well?

The riots solve nothing In fact they make things worse. Instead of riots it should be "Make Black Votes Matter" "Man Up. Go Vote"

One crazy man in Texas is not generalizable to gang violence in Baltimore.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Freddie Gray not injured during arrest,
slammed inside van

The preliminary autopsy on Freddie Gray shows no evidence that his fatal injuries ‒ broken vertebrae and an injured voice box ‒ occurred during his arrest. It does show that he likely received a head injury while being transported, local WJLA reported.

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Poor Blacks, nothing changed since lynching

What a disaster.

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[Endovelico]

Baltimore As A Microcosm Of America
Michael Krieger - Posted Thursday Apr 30, 2015 at 10:45 am
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/04/30 ... f-america/

In these drug-saturated neighborhoods, they weren’t policing their post anymore, they weren’t policing real estate that they were protecting from crime. They weren’t nurturing informants, or learning how to properly investigate anything. There’s a real skill set to good police work. But no, they were just dragging the sidewalks, hunting stats, and these inner-city neighborhoods — which were indeed drug-saturated because that’s the only industry left — become just hunting grounds. They weren’t protecting anything. They weren’t serving anyone. They were collecting bodies, treating corner folk and citizens alike as an Israeli patrol would treat Gaza, or as the Afrikaners would have treated Soweto back in the day. They’re an army of occupation. And once it’s that, then everybody’s the enemy. The police aren’t looking to make friends, or informants, or learning how to write clean warrants or how to testify in court without perjuring themselves unnecessarily. There’s no incentive to get better as investigators, as cops.

[From the excellent Marshall Project article: David Simon on Baltimore’s Anguish]

Baltimore, Maryland is in many ways the perfect microcosm for these United States of America. If you still don’t get that, you’ll be in for a rude awakening in the years ahead.

A gradual erosion of the Constitution and the civil rights of the citizenry, the abuse of power by people in authority, perverse financial incentives that lead to horrible outcomes, zero accountability, and a ubiquitous surveillance state apparatus; Baltimore has it all. Yet all of these troubling traits have also come to characterize early 21st century America.

As tends to be the case, the populations that have been victimized the longest and most systemically — in Baltimore and across the U.S. — are the poor, weak and disenfranchised. Like a cancer, corruption, theft, and blatant abuse of the citizenry by the powerful will spread and spread until it consumes everything unless the tumor is removed. It has now spread so deeply and so dangerously throughout American life, the general public will soon have no choice but to confront it and do something about it, or face a total extinction of opportunity and suffer the same desperate fate as the people out in the streets of Baltimore.

David Simon, creator of the excellent hit HBO series “The Wire,” recently sat down for an interview with former New York Times reporter Bill Keller to explain the situation in Baltimore as he sees it; its origins and what is needed to fix it. As you read, think about the many parallels to the U.S. economy in general; the endless criminal maneuverings within the centers of power in Washington D.C. and Wall Street, the forever spinning revolving door of corruption, the marauding gangs of cronies making impossibly large piles of money based on connections, fraud and rigged markets as opposed to adding value, the idiocy of the war on drugs, the fraudulent accounting, and the overbearing surveillance state. Increasingly, when America looks in the mirror Baltimore and Ferguson are staring right back. We just haven’t admitted it yet.

(...)

[Simple Minded]

Every single personal problem possible is a microcosm of America...... or Europe..... or the world!

The world won't get fixed until it adopts my perspective and implements my solution. My problems are so big, everyone has to get involved to solve them.

We are such a narcissistic, vain species.

The old saying about "some mistake all they can see for all that exists" comes to mind.

[Endovelico]

Every single personal problem possible is a microcosm of America...... or Europe..... or the world!

The world won't get fixed until it adopts my perspective and implement my solution.

We are such a narcissistic, vain species.

You may try to sweep it under the carpet, but it won't work...

And this doesn't work either:

[Heracleum Persicum]

YOMZsZwtswo

[Simple Minded]

Every single personal problem possible is a microcosm of America...... or Europe..... or the world!

The world won't get fixed until it adopts my perspective and implement my solution.

We are such a narcissistic, vain species.

You may try to sweep it under the carpet, but it won't work...

And this doesn't work either:

endo,

You are being silly.

I am a microcosm of America, so is Bill Gates, and Trayvon Martin, and Baltimore, and Silicon Valley.....
Germany is a microcosm of Europe, so is Greece, so are you, so is Parodite, so is YMix, and Alex, and Alexis......

All depends on how you pre-set your focus and interpretation filters.

Show me a square mile of people without problems on Earth, and I'll show you a big cemetery.

[Endovelico]

Show me a square mile of people without problems on Earth, and I'll show you a big cemetery.

The issue is not the existence of problems, is the nature of the problems... Drought in California is a problem, but of a different nature from racism in Baltimore... And you can't react to racism in the same manner as you do in respect of drought...

[Simple Minded]

Show me a square mile of people without problems on Earth, and I'll show you a big cemetery.

The issue is not the existence of problems, is the nature of the problems... Drought in California is a problem, but of a different nature from racism in Baltimore... And you can't react to racism in the same manner as you do in respect of drought...

"And you can't react to racism in the same manner as you do in respect of drought....."

Really? Millions of people involved in those two situations. Do you really want to dictate how they should react?

Now ask yourself, why do you (or others) choose to view Baltimore thru the prism of racism, rather than local culture, free will of individuals, accident of birth, bad local government, etc.

Baltimore is not a single person. Lots of causes no doubt created the current situation. I'll even bet that some of the current causes are solutions to past problems!

Distance, and lack of on the street experience encourages arrogance.

I have confidence that the people of Baltimore can solve this without me imposing my ignorant and arrogant solutions upon them.

I also suspect that DC will be as successful in solving the problems of Baltimore as Brussels has been in solving the problems of Greece.

One aspect of humanity that seem universal is that crusaders usually suck at managing the lives of people they have never met.

[Simple Minded]

Endo,

It is an endless source of fascination to me.... the variables people choose to focus upon to define reality........ and the interpretations they mentally construct.

As has been said before, people don't react to reality, they reality to their interpretation of reality.

Seems that whenever large groups of people ("we") disagree a lot, or agree a lot, the world goes to hell in a hand basket.

Back when we were both a cool age, a friend had a button of which he was very proud, it read "Don't f**k with my reality!"

Will "we" ever learn that lesson? Humans are social animals but only on a limited scale?

[Endovelico]

Simple Minded,

Not everything is subjective. And even when universal principles and values are involved, the degree of subjectivity is, at best, very small. How subjective am I when I condemn the holocaust?... How would you react to someone saying, for instance:

"There weren't 6 million people killed in concentration camps, but only 3 million..."

"The Jews were asking for it, when they exploited the rest of the people..."

"People weren't killed, they died of the diseases and malnutrition caused by the war on Germany..."

[Simple Minded]

Endo,

Wow! Baltimore-Nazi Germany. What filter is that?

Please go back and re-read my posts without your all or nothing filter. I don't think I made any absolute statements of the kind you use as examples. Not everything is subjective, but virtually nothing is binary as the crusaders would spin it.

I suspect your expertise in things Baltimore, is equivalent to my expertise in things Baltimore, or my expertise in things Portugal. The fact that I don't agree with your analysis from afar is not the same thing as I claim no problems exist.

Or to simplify, if only the Greeks would adopt German culture, they would not have their current problems. If only Baltimorians would adopt Silicon Valley culture, they would not have their current problems. It seems the solutions are obvious, but perhaps the implementation is the difficult.....

It fascinates me to no end when Fred decides that this person/neighborhood is a typical representative of this community/culture/nation. But if you want to make the big bucks as savior..... ya gotta pursue a mass marketing strategy. In Redneck Zen lingo, it is called the shotgun approach.

It is a very common aspect of humanity. I suspect man has always hyper-simplified the world to fit his personal experience. I doubt that aspect of human will change anytime soon.

It seems an act of..... faith.

[Endovelico]

Simple Minded,

I do not disagree sufficiently with you to make an issue of your position. But I feel that Baltimore may indeed be a sign of a much more global problem, not limited to the US, so that we should not, maybe, treat it as an isolated incident due solely to local circumstances. I am afraid we are moving towards a deeply authoritarian state, dominated by the proverbial 1% who will use the security issue to more completely enslave the rest of us. Their control of most of the economy and of the security apparatus (professional army and police) would then make it virtually impossible for a liberation movement to be successful. Specially in countries, like the US and Northern European countries, where people are excessively respectful of authority. Southern Europeans' anarchist soul may on the other hand, give them a better chance at resisting this trend.

[manolo]

Folks,

I guess we might say that Freddie Gray's experience inside the police van was subjective. In a sense, all experiences are subjective.

The medics found that Gray's spine was 80% severed after the 'rough ride' he had in the van and his head was indented by a bolt on the inside surface of the van. Gray died.

The forensic results are objective and will be used in the prosecution. If the prosecution is successful the ruling is likely to be murder. In this case the murderer's will have the experience of prison and maybe death row and it's normal conclusion. In a sense, their experiences will be subjective.

Philosophy can overcomplicate, but I'm sure that the above is simple enough.

Alex.

[Typhoon]

On 1 May 2015, Maryland State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby announced that charges had been filed against six arresting officers in the death of Baltimore man Freddie Gray, who died of spinal injuries several days after being taken into police custody.