Issues of Race in the USA

[Typhoon]

Taki's Mag - Z Man | Living in the Age of Jim Snow

Pat Buchanan famously said that America was the first country to have a ruling class that hated the people over whom it ruled. It turns out that they only hate some of the people, the white majority. The question that naturally follows is can such a country last when the ruling elite despises the majority with such passion? More important, can such a country last when the majority begins to hate their rulers back?

[Doc]

Taki's Mag - Z Man | Living in the Age of Jim Snow

Pat Buchanan famously said that America was the first country to have a ruling class that hated the people over whom it ruled. It turns out that they only hate some of the people, the white majority. The question that naturally follows is can such a country last when the ruling elite despises the majority with such passion? More important, can such a country last when the majority begins to hate their rulers back?

Too which the elites retort: "Hold my high priced wine"

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[Typhoon]

Quillette | AWOL Black Fathers

These figures were troubling, but they only offered a hint of what was to come. By the time the “Moynihan Report, Revisited” was published in 2013, 73 percent of black children were born to unmarried mothers. The figure for non-Hispanic white children was 29 percent:

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I was stunned. A few months ago, I mentioned this to a black activist who was working on the problem of black violence in a nearby town. He had been trying to figure out why violence seemed to be endemic among their young black males and had reached a dead end. When I suggested that father-absence was not properly socializing black youth and asked him if he had read the Moynihan Report, he told me that the report was written by racist right-wingers determined to condemn blacks for their own misfortunes. I didn’t bring it up with him again. For now, the town’s solution is recreation centers.

It was not the first time I had heard the report dismissed in this way. It was basically the attitude of the black community upon the report’s publication. The backlash from the community was so militant and damning—reviling its author in the process—that the Johnson Administration dropped the issue and turned its attention to the Vietnam War. This reaction was not entirely surprising, given the demonization of blacks by many whites since first contact in the 1400s. Denigration used to justify outrageous and dehumanizing treatment produced a hypersensitivity among blacks that reflexively prevents us from accepting criticism from outsiders. Criticism from insiders has become something like heresy.

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For now, the town’s solution is recreation centers.

for many societies which arent as focused on nuclear families, this is a valid approach - kids are raised by the village, which is womens work and dads are off doing male things.

its not a stupid idea for environments that have no nuclear families anyway.

[Typhoon]

WSJ | BLM’s Anti-Police Racket Is Coming Undone

The organization has squandered its moral authority by acting like a hustler on the make.

By Jason L. Riley
April 19, 2022 6:38 pm ET

In the 2021 movie “Old,” a group of vacationers is stranded on a secluded beach where the aging process is accelerated. Decades, they soon realize, pass in a matter of hours. Alas, the premise is better than the film, but it suffices as a metaphor for Black Lives Matter, a movement that has quickly aged into a racket.

BLM got its start in 2013 following the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. It gained traction a year later, when Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, Mo. According to a national poll published by the Daily Kos, support for BLM peaked at 52% in June 2020, a month after George Floyd was murdered by a police officer in Minneapolis. Its popularity has declined since then, and recent revelations about the organization’s spending habits are unlikely to reverse that trend.

After the New York Post reported in April 2021 that a BLM co-founder had purchased four homes for a total of $3.2 million, the head of a local BLM chapter in New York City called for an independent investigation into how money was being spent. In July, BLM leaders in Canada, with help from its U.S. affiliate, purchased another multimillion dollar mansion in Toronto, which prompted several activists in the local chapter to resign. And earlier this month, New York magazine reported that BLM leaders purchased a $6 million California home in cash with money that had been donated to the organization.

“The transaction has not been previously reported, and Black Lives Matter leadership had hoped to keep the house’s existence a secret,” the article said. “Internal emails dating to 2016 show activists voicing concern about how donations were being spent and how the organization was being run. . . . The families of some Black victims of police violence have complained that they have seen little of the funds that have flowed to the movements most visible facet.” Floyd’s death produced a windfall for the group. In October 2020, it took in $66.5 million in contributions. Weeks later, it purchased the California property. BLM told the magazine that it had “always planned” to disclose the purchase, but didn’t explain why it hadn’t.

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There are also questions about how money not going into pricey real-estate is being managed. Fox Business reported earlier this year that attorneys general in California and Washington state had ordered BLM to cease fundraising activities until the group submitted delinquent financial disclosures. The organization told Fox that “we take these matters seriously and have taken immediate action.” If the public doesn’t know more about these shenanigans, New York magazine explained that it might be because the organization carefully monitors social media for negative mentions, “with members using their influence with the platforms to have such remarks removed.” It’s also hired private investigators “to look into [BLM] detractors and journalists.”

This isn’t the behavior of a respectable organization. It’s closer to the behavior of hustlers on the make. And the speed at which BLM has squandered any moral authority it enjoyed earlier isn’t entirely surprising given that other black identity movements have met similar fates due to their limited appeal. Marcus Garvey’s separatist movement in the 1920s ultimately petered out. He was indicted for mail fraud, sentenced to prison and later deported to his native Jamaica. The Black Panther movement of the 1960s, which like BLM won the sympathies of millions of white liberals, was later revealed to be at its core a criminal enterprise. Its most prominent leaders wound up exiled, imprisoned or murdered by rivals.

The BLM movement’s other problem is that its prominence has been propelled in part by lies and half-truths. Michael Brown was shot dead after he attacked a police officer, and the “Hands up, don’t shoot!” story is a myth. Trayvon Martin was a troubled young man, and based on physical evidence the jury determined that Mr. Zimmerman fired at him in self-defense.

There is nothing wrong with calling out dirty cops or police brutality, which aren’t figments of black people’s imaginations. But neither do most blacks believe, as BLM types insist, that policing is a larger problem than criminal behavior. Like Garvey and the Black Panthers, BLM represents a fringe minority of black Americans rather than the mainstream majority. A Pew Research Center survey released last week found that crime is the top concern of black adults, which is nothing new. The 1968 Kerner Commission report noted that the loudest complaints from black neighborhoods concerned the lack of police protection—specifically, the relatively small number of cops assigned to black neighborhoods and their slow response to emergency calls.

BLM’s antipolice agenda is out of step with the thinking of most blacks today and most blacks for at least the past half-century.

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[Heracleum Persicum]

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Key questions unanswered
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[Nonc Hilaire]

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Key questions unanswered
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There are big questions on the legitimacy of this. Apollonius has been following; I hope he posts.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Key questions unanswered
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There are big questions on the legitimacy of this. Apollonius has been following; I hope he posts.

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In Canada, catholic church run schools for these kids, seems, much worst situation

This could fit UN definition of "genocide"
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[Heracleum Persicum]

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An epidemic of hate


Notion passing laws can change cultural realities, self kidding, self pleasing

America should turn inwards and fix America first, before fixing China or Russia (dropping Iran )

"Law enforcement is proceeding with its investigation, but what is clear is that we are seeing an epidemic of hate across our country that has been evidenced by acts of violence and intolerance,"

Key word here is "intolerance" .. that heart of the matter

"Tolerance" means : I don't ACCEPT you, but "tolerate" you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ouDk2Mayw

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"Prevailing mindset" Russians are "sh*t", Iranians and Chinese this and that, means they not equal but we "tolerate them"

Well, don't be surprised if an 18 yr white boy randomly shoots 10 innocent black


My very frankly recommendation to America and Americans is , to make Iranian RUMI writings "mandatory" in American Schools, High Schools and universities .. AND .. put an exam similar to SAT on RUMI writings .. this I mean sincerely .. and many other Persian giants of literature ..

All Persian literature is are "Hekmat", wisdom , about " Humanität "

Read Saadi, Haafez and many many other
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[Typhoon]

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Well, don't be surprised if an 18 yr white boy randomly shoots 10 innocent black

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You of all people taking US mainstream media so seriously. Confirmation bias much?

Without downgrading the tragedy in Buffalo, 10 innocent blacks shot is a just another week in Chicago.

The ongoing black-on-black carnage is studiously ignored by the US mainstream media.

In 2020, there were 9,913 homicides of blacks in the US. Mostly young men.

The leading cause of homicide for young black men, ages 15 to 34, is homicide [US CDC]
Not even in the top three in the case of whites, hispanics, and asians.

50% of death of young black men ages 15 to 19 in the US is due to homicide [US CDC]

Aside from a few exception, they are not dying at the hands of whites, hispanics, asians, or police, but a the hands of other young black men.

It's not an economic problem, but a cultural one. Starting with the bleak reality that only about 20% of black families have two parents present.

Anecdotally, I've travelled extensively and independently in E Asia, SE Asia, N America, the Caribbean, S America, W Europe, E Europe, the Baltics, and Russia. Lived in the US Midwest for nearly a decade.

The most tolerant nation I' experienced was Canada, with the US second.
Another notable nation was Lithuania, going against E European stereotype.

Being lectured on tolerance by someone from the ME is like being lectured on the merits of virginity by the madam of a brothel.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Well, don't be surprised if an 18 yr white boy randomly shoots 10 innocent black

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You of all people taking US mainstream media so seriously. Confirmation bias much?

Without downgrading the tragedy in Buffalo, 10 innocent blacks shot is a just another week in Chicago.

The ongoing black-on-black carnage is studiously ignored by the US mainstream media.

In 2020, there were 9,913 homicides of blacks in the US. Mostly young men.

The leading cause of homicide for young black men, ages 15 to 34, is homicide [US CDC]
Not even in the top three in the case of whites, hispanics, and asians.

50% of death of young black men ages 15 to 19 in the US is due to homicide [US CDC]

Aside from a few exception, they are not dying at the hands of whites, hispanics, asians, or police, but a the hands of other young black men.

It's not an economic problem, but a cultural one. Starting with the bleak reality that only about 20% of black families have two parents present.

Anecdotally, I've travelled extensively and independently in E Asia, SE Asia, N America, the Caribbean, S America, W Europe, E Europe, the Baltics, and Russia. Lived in the US Midwest for nearly a decade.

The most tolerant nation I' experienced was Canada, with the US second.
Another notable nation was Lithuania, going against E European stereotype.

Being lectured on tolerance by someone from the ME is like being lectured on virginity by the madam of a brothel.

With all due respect , this not about crime .. we can talk about crime in America in another thread and reason for high crime, social and other related issues

This is about racist.

This not categorized in "general crime" .. this same category as gunman going int Synagogue or Mosque and shooting innocent Jewish or muslim worshippers

These are "The American Nazis" .. Racist, ultra right, people who say Africa and Russia "sh*tpit" and talk down to other ethnics and nations.

In the past people with that mindset were called Nazi, but now, this mindset becoming "mainstream".

Ever thought why so many such cases, 18 yr old White boy shooting random 10 Black, Taiwanese going in Taiwan church shooting random, or shooting Korean massage parlor or Synagoge etc etc "pretty much weekly event" now ? ever thought ?

Why last 100 yrs not even one such case happened in Iran ? ? despite bone crushing sanctions cause by "christian west" or daily Israil threatening to Bomb Iran.

Civilization unrelated to GDP , unfortunately now move in opposite direction
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[Nonc Hilaire]

This is about crime, HP. Only white people attacking poc are covered on US news. US crime is overwhelmingly black on black.

The ‘Asian Hate’ meme was discarded when all the Asian haters were found to be black, as was wilding and knockout game.

[Heracleum Persicum]

This is about crime, HP. Only white people attacking poc are covered on US news. US crime is overwhelmingly black on black.

The ‘Asian Hate’ meme was discarded when all the Asian haters were found to be black, as was wilding and knockout game.

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We know 18-year-old white gunman shot 10 blacks to death at a grocery store days ago

Now, another 18 yrs old murdered 19 children 6 to 10 yrs old .. although I dont know, but my guess the children were all "latino, mexican" .. and .. the 18 yr old was a white Anglo

Well

If this not racism what is this ?

Looking last few yrs , all attacks where on minorities by "white" boys

Any Black man going into schools or churches or massage saloon to shoot "White" people ?

Look .. this no good each time this happens to say the White guy murdering innocent non whites was crazy or had psychological problem or was loner .. these are lies and trying to hide the cultural whirlpool American is in.

Norway and Finland have similar levels of gun ownership, but far less gun crime

Remember Trump time when he was saying "sh*t Mexican" and wanted "Swedish immigrants" and not this "sh*t Africans" when ordinary proeple were attacking non Anglos shouting "leave my country" ?


pfui

“You know that they are kids, right?” a man yells in one video. “They’re little kids and they don’t know how to defend themselves!”

Why did police wait until 19 six yrs old (latino) kids were gunned down by an 18 (my guess white) boy ?

Texas senator Ted Cruz should be taken to morgue to see the dead kidds
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[Typhoon]

This is about crime, HP. Only white people attacking poc are covered on US news. US crime is overwhelmingly black on black.

The ‘Asian Hate’ meme was discarded when all the Asian haters were found to be black, as was wilding and knockout game.

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Now, another 18 yrs old murdered 19 children 6 to 10 yrs old .. although I dont know, but my guess the children were all "latino, mexican" .. and .. the 18 yr old was a white Anglo

Sure. Named "Salvador Ramos".

Well

If this not racism what is this ?

Looking last few yrs , all attacks where on minorities by "white" boys

Any Black man going into schools or churches or massage saloon to shoot "White" people ?

Sure, pally

James, 62, is accused of setting off smoke grenades and firing a handgun 33 times on a crowded N train traveling toward the 36th Street station in Brooklyn's Sunset Park neighborhood on April 12. The attack left 29 people injured, including 10 who were shot, officials said.

Going a bit further back, there was this exemplary pair:

ABC | Two serial killers struck fear in America. But behind the seemingly random attacks was a twisted plan

Mass shooters despite the media, are statistically rare.
As black males constitute about 7% of the US population, one expects far fewer black mass shooters.

However. In the US today, blacks are busy killing each other, especially the young.

In the BLM year, 52% of teens who were murdered were black

Your hatred of the West, and especially the US, has completely clouded your ability to reason and to make a coherent rational argument.

[Doc]

This is about crime, HP. Only white people attacking poc are covered on US news. US crime is overwhelmingly black on black.

The ‘Asian Hate’ meme was discarded when all the Asian haters were found to be black, as was wilding and knockout game.

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Now, another 18 yrs old murdered 19 children 6 to 10 yrs old .. although I dont know, but my guess the children were all "latino, mexican" .. and .. the 18 yr old was a white Anglo

Sure. Named "Salvador Ramos".

Well

If this not racism what is this ?

Looking last few yrs , all attacks where on minorities by "white" boys

Any Black man going into schools or churches or massage saloon to shoot "White" people ?

Sure, pally

James, 62, is accused of setting off smoke grenades and firing a handgun 33 times on a crowded N train traveling toward the 36th Street station in Brooklyn's Sunset Park neighborhood on April 12. The attack left 29 people injured, including 10 who were shot, officials said.

Mass shooters despite the media, are statistically rare.
As black males constitute about 7% of the US population, one expects far fewer black mass shooters.

However. In the US, blacks are busy killing each other, especially the young.

In the BLM year, 52% of teens who were murdered were black

Your hatred of the West and especially the US has completely clouded your ability to reason and to make a coherent rational argument.

Give HP a break. He is just confused over which race is more important - The Kentucky Derby or the Daytona 500.
I mean it is not as if we were talking about Uighurs in China or Gays in Iran.

[Heracleum Persicum]

This is about crime, HP. Only white people attacking poc are covered on US news. US crime is overwhelmingly black on black.

The ‘Asian Hate’ meme was discarded when all the Asian haters were found to be black, as was wilding and knockout game.

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. . .

Now, another 18 yrs old murdered 19 children 6 to 10 yrs old .. although I dont know, but my guess the children were all "latino, mexican" .. and .. the 18 yr old was a white Anglo

Sure. Named "Salvador Ramos".

Well

If this not racism what is this ?

Looking last few yrs , all attacks where on minorities by "white" boys

Any Black man going into schools or churches or massage saloon to shoot "White" people ?

Sure, pally

James, 62, is accused of setting off smoke grenades and firing a handgun 33 times on a crowded N train traveling toward the 36th Street station in Brooklyn's Sunset Park neighborhood on April 12. The attack left 29 people injured, including 10 who were shot, officials said.

Mass shooters despite the media, are statistically rare.
As black males constitute about 7% of the US population, one expects far fewer black mass shooters.

However. In the US, blacks are busy killing each other, especially the young.

In the BLM year, 52% of teens who were murdered were black

Your hatred of the West and especially the US has completely clouded your ability to reason and to make a coherent rational argument.

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Give HP a break. He is just confused over which race is more important - The Kentucky Derby or the Daytona 500.
I mean it is not as if we were talking about Uighurs in China or Gays in Iran.

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.. true, as Yogi the bear said, the best defence is a hollow offence

18 yr olds shooting death blacks on dozens, 18 yrs old shooting 19 "all latino" 5 yrs old children, white storming Synagogues and massage parlours shooting Korean girls giving a gentle massage for (mussel) releaf .. all that is HP hating "West and especially the US has completely clouded your ability to reason and to make a coherent rational argument."

All that makes sense why US on downhill path .. Russia "sh*t" , why no swedish (forgetting sweden has only 8 m population and taking in massive Syrian and Iranian and Kurdish immigrant) immigrants to US ( ) and not this African sh*t

Look , folks , to be leader , must be accepted by world population , AND , must be EARNED .. well , look at America, Western , track record (even) last 100 yrs (let alone last 300 yrs).

For West , and later for America , as soon as West and America, White folks, got the military highground , it was, ALWAYS , "West, America, White folks" FIRST ..

I like Trump, he honest guy .. he put "pretension aside" and said what was the reality "America First" , poor guy aDolf said that too "Deutschland Über Alles"

America's reputation is ruined, Bush Dady, instead of being humble, doubled down on CIA policies after fall of USSR .. NOW .. America must show to the world that America is the good guy and means good for all .. still not too late as goodwill still not yet totally ruined

Look .. we in new age .. America (and West) no more in driver seat .. driver seat must be earned
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[Doc]

This is about crime, HP. Only white people attacking poc are covered on US news. US crime is overwhelmingly black on black.

The ‘Asian Hate’ meme was discarded when all the Asian haters were found to be black, as was wilding and knockout game.

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. . .

Now, another 18 yrs old murdered 19 children 6 to 10 yrs old .. although I dont know, but my guess the children were all "latino, mexican" .. and .. the 18 yr old was a white Anglo

Sure. Named "Salvador Ramos".

Well

If this not racism what is this ?

Looking last few yrs , all attacks where on minorities by "white" boys

Any Black man going into schools or churches or massage saloon to shoot "White" people ?

Sure, pally

James, 62, is accused of setting off smoke grenades and firing a handgun 33 times on a crowded N train traveling toward the 36th Street station in Brooklyn's Sunset Park neighborhood on April 12. The attack left 29 people injured, including 10 who were shot, officials said.

Mass shooters despite the media, are statistically rare.
As black males constitute about 7% of the US population, one expects far fewer black mass shooters.

However. In the US, blacks are busy killing each other, especially the young.

In the BLM year, 52% of teens who were murdered were black

Your hatred of the West and especially the US has completely clouded your ability to reason and to make a coherent rational argument.

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Give HP a break. He is just confused over which race is more important - The Kentucky Derby or the Daytona 500.
I mean it is not as if we were talking about Uighurs in China or Gays in Iran.

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.. true, as Yogi the bear said, the best defence is a hollow offence

18 yr olds shooting death blacks on dozens, 18 yrs old shooting 19 "all latino" 5 yrs old children, white storming Synagogues and massage parlours shooting Korean girls giving a gentle massage for (mussel) releaf .. all that is HP hating "West and especially the US has completely clouded your ability to reason and to make a coherent rational argument."

All that makes sense why US on downhill path .. Russia "sh*t" , why no swedish (forgetting sweden has only 8 m population and taking in massive Syrian and Iranian and Kurdish immigrant) immigrants to US ( ) and not this African sh*t

Look , folks , to be leader , must be accepted by world population , AND , must be EARNED .. well , look at America, Western , track record (even) last 100 yrs (let alone last 300 yrs).

The US is much less dangerous than most of the rest of the world. Most of the "mass" shootings are copy cat shootings. There was a study not too long ago that found that most mass shootings are for the fame the shooting perceiving they will get.. And do get because the anti-gun lobby wantsto make a big deal about every mass shooting. So in effect mass shooting feed on the anti-gun rights lobby making the shooters famous while the shooters make the case for the anti-gun lobby. But to be clear only 36% of Americans want stricter gun control.57% want no change or less strict gun control. It has been that way for decades. The total variation year to year over the last two decades is 8%> SO even with variation that still does not get to a majority of people wanting more gun control. Then there are the victims of gun control to take into account ....



As for black shootings Typhon is corect it is overwhelmingly Black on Black shootings that kill people. It is the same with education. Where democrat controlled cities have absolute failures of school systems. As I recall Baltimore city schools have a 16% High school graduation rate. How can young adult succeeed in life if they have a hard time with reading writing and arithmatic?

For West , and later for America , as soon as West and America, White folks, got the military highground , it was, ALWAYS , "West, America, White folks" FIRST ..

I like Trump, he honest guy .. he put "pretension aside" and said what was the reality "America First" , poor guy aDolf said that too "Deutschland Über Alles"

America's reputation is ruined, Bush Dady, instead of being humble, doubled down on CIA policies after fall of USSR .. NOW .. America must show to the world that America is the good guy and means good for all .. still not too late as goodwill still not yet totally ruined

Look .. we in new age .. America (and West) no more in driver seat .. driver seat must be earned
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[Heracleum Persicum]

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Notion "Gun Ownership" prevents criminals silly .. better give criminal what he wants than confront and risk one's life

For any one criminal prevented using commoner's gun, many children and innocent are killed by Gun accident and racist etc

America's Gun ownership not to fight criminals, but be armed for next "civil war" coming

Unfortunately
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[Doc]

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Notion "Gun Ownership" prevents criminals silly .. better give criminal what he wants than confront and risk one's life

For any one criminal prevented using commoner's gun, many children and innocent are killed by Gun accident and racist etc

America's Gun ownership not to fight criminals, but be armed for next "civil war" coming

Unfortunately
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No where I come from HP

https://www.wral.com/armed-woman-stops- ... /20305395/

Armed woman stops WV mass shooting, police say
Tags: Charleston, mass shooting

Charleston police said that a woman's actions may have prevented a mass casualty event following an altercation about speeding through a neighborhood.
Web editor: Maggie Brown
7:36 a.m., May 29

she did the right thing. I don't know any other person would have done that. A woman in charleston is being credited for averting a mass shooting Charleston. Police say it all started when this man, 37 year old Dennis Butler was speeding up and down the parking lot. That's when he was approached by people attending a graduation party and a birthday party asking him to slow down. His Children were playing. They said he seemed agitated and left, but shortly after he returned to the complex, armed with an ar 15 style rifle and started shooting at the crowd. Police say a woman then pulled out her pistol, shot him and killed him. I will say, on the charleston west Virginia case, charleston Police Department case. This lady was carrying a lawful firearm. Okay, A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of Probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it, Preventing a mass casualty here in Charleston police say Butler has an extensive criminal history. Back in 2016, he was accused of shooting and pistol whipping a 19 year old woman. But those charges were dismissed because no witnesses testified at the pre trial hearing. Court records show. Butler had been convicted of two felonies in the past, meaning he should have never had a gun to begin with. Not in 2016 and not on Wednesday night at the Vista View apartments. She's just a member of the community Who was carrying her firearm. Lawfully and instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night, quick actions that avoided a massive tragedy as we continue dealing with the aftermath of a mass shooting that left 19 Children and two adults dead in Vivaldi Texas.

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Notion "Gun Ownership" prevents criminals silly .. better give criminal what he wants than confront and risk one's life

For any one criminal prevented using commoner's gun, many children and innocent are killed by Gun accident and racist etc

America's Gun ownership not to fight criminals, but be armed for next "civil war" coming

Unfortunately
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No where I come from HP

https://www.wral.com/armed-woman-stops- ... /20305395/

Armed woman stops WV mass shooting, police say
Tags: Charleston, mass shooting

Charleston police said that a woman's actions may have prevented a mass casualty event following an altercation about speeding through a neighborhood.
Web editor: Maggie Brown
7:36 a.m., May 29

she did the right thing. I don't know any other person would have done that. A woman in charleston is being credited for averting a mass shooting Charleston. Police say it all started when this man, 37 year old Dennis Butler was speeding up and down the parking lot. That's when he was approached by people attending a graduation party and a birthday party asking him to slow down. His Children were playing. They said he seemed agitated and left, but shortly after he returned to the complex, armed with an ar 15 style rifle and started shooting at the crowd. Police say a woman then pulled out her pistol, shot him and killed him. I will say, on the charleston west Virginia case, charleston Police Department case. This lady was carrying a lawful firearm. Okay, A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of Probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it, Preventing a mass casualty here in Charleston police say Butler has an extensive criminal history. Back in 2016, he was accused of shooting and pistol whipping a 19 year old woman. But those charges were dismissed because no witnesses testified at the pre trial hearing. Court records show. Butler had been convicted of two felonies in the past, meaning he should have never had a gun to begin with. Not in 2016 and not on Wednesday night at the Vista View apartments. She's just a member of the community Who was carrying her firearm. Lawfully and instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night, quick actions that avoided a massive tragedy as we continue dealing with the aftermath of a mass shooting that left 19 Children and two adults dead in Vivaldi Texas.

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.. come on .. anecdotal

Chance of survival by engaging an armed criminal by fighting back (my guess) is less than 1% .. unless the criminal an idi*t

I myself was rubbed on the street and struggled back, but the rubber got what he wanted .. later police told me I was an idi*t fighting back and should have given the guy what he wanted unless wanted to be dead.
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[Doc]

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Notion "Gun Ownership" prevents criminals silly .. better give criminal what he wants than confront and risk one's life

For any one criminal prevented using commoner's gun, many children and innocent are killed by Gun accident and racist etc

America's Gun ownership not to fight criminals, but be armed for next "civil war" coming

Unfortunately
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No where I come from HP

https://www.wral.com/armed-woman-stops- ... /20305395/

Armed woman stops WV mass shooting, police say
Tags: Charleston, mass shooting

Charleston police said that a woman's actions may have prevented a mass casualty event following an altercation about speeding through a neighborhood.
Web editor: Maggie Brown
7:36 a.m., May 29

she did the right thing. I don't know any other person would have done that. A woman in charleston is being credited for averting a mass shooting Charleston. Police say it all started when this man, 37 year old Dennis Butler was speeding up and down the parking lot. That's when he was approached by people attending a graduation party and a birthday party asking him to slow down. His Children were playing. They said he seemed agitated and left, but shortly after he returned to the complex, armed with an ar 15 style rifle and started shooting at the crowd. Police say a woman then pulled out her pistol, shot him and killed him. I will say, on the charleston west Virginia case, charleston Police Department case. This lady was carrying a lawful firearm. Okay, A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of Probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it, Preventing a mass casualty here in Charleston police say Butler has an extensive criminal history. Back in 2016, he was accused of shooting and pistol whipping a 19 year old woman. But those charges were dismissed because no witnesses testified at the pre trial hearing. Court records show. Butler had been convicted of two felonies in the past, meaning he should have never had a gun to begin with. Not in 2016 and not on Wednesday night at the Vista View apartments. She's just a member of the community Who was carrying her firearm. Lawfully and instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night, quick actions that avoided a massive tragedy as we continue dealing with the aftermath of a mass shooting that left 19 Children and two adults dead in Vivaldi Texas.

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.. come on .. anecdotal

Chance of survival by engaging an armed criminal by fighting back (my guess) is less than 1% .. unless the criminal an idi*t

I myself was rubbed on the street and struggled back, but the rubber got what he wanted .. later police told me I was an idi*t fighting back and should have given the guy what he wanted unless wanted to be dead.
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Note the date....

In WV it is perfectly legal to carry a gun. They aren't much use if you don't have your gun when you need it.

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For now, the town’s solution is recreation centers.

for many societies which arent as focused on nuclear families, this is a valid approach - kids are raised by the village, which is womens work and dads are off doing male things.

its not a stupid idea for environments that have no nuclear families anyway.

The problem is that there is no strong social village either. As Edward Banfield pointed out years ago, family formation-- whether nuclear or not-- is very insensitive to interventions.

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https://freebeacon.com/culture/inside-t ... anization/

Inside the Woke Meltdown at One Domestic Violence Organization
Women Against Abuse discouraged black domestic abuse victims from calling the police. Yes, you read that right.

It was just two months after the death of George Floyd that one of the largest domestic violence nonprofits in the United States, Women Against Abuse, brought in several diversity consultants to conduct a racial-equity audit. The goal of the audit, Women Against Abuse told staffers, was to become "a fully inclusive, multicultural, and antiracist institution."

By November 2020, the organization, which is ostensibly devoted to "serving all survivors," was offering to pay "BIPOC" employees more than their white counterparts and discouraging black abuse victims from calling the police. Its employees were also at war with each other, bickering over whether Jews are a persecuted minority group and whether there is such a thing as a non-racist white person.

Those events prompted Nicole Levitt, an attorney with the group’s legal center, to file a discrimination complaint against her employer with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission alleging that it "berated, humiliated, and subjected" her to "mandatory thought reform efforts."

"Women Against Abuse used to be liberal," Levitt told the Washington Free Beacon. "Now it’s illiberal."

This story is based on Levitt’s discrimination complaint, Women Against Abuse’s response to it, and materials from the equity audit that Levitt shared with the Free Beacon. It reveals how the leading domestic violence nonprofit in Philadelphia descended into dogmatism and infighting, obsessing over identity as domestic homicides in the city reached an all-time high of 43 in 2021—more than double the previous year.

That obsession manifested in avant garde policies that led the group far astray from its core mission. The policies weren’t just the product of employee activism, but of outside consultants—including Ragina Arrington, now the chief executive officer of the Clinton Foundation’s Global Initiative University, who since July 2020 has been helping Women Against Abuse conduct its equity audit.

Arrington began this work as a senior officer at Philanthropy Unbound, one of two diversity consultancies retained by Women Against Abuse in the wake of George Floyd’s death. The consultants soon injected race into every crevice of the organization, transforming it from the inside out.

Leftwing nonprofits across the country have undergone similar transformations. From the Sierra Club to the Guttmacher Institute to the American Civil Liberties Union, the Intercept’s Ryan Grim reported last month, progressive advocacy groups have "effectively ceased to function," as their outward-facing missions fall prey to internal tumult.

Women Against Abuse is a case study in how that tumult is generated, as activist employees bring in well-heeled diversity consultants who in turn empower the activists.

The consultants doing this work are increasingly mainstream, as Arrington’s institutional ascent demonstrates: She left Philanthropy Unbound for the Clinton Foundation two years after beginning work with Women Against Abuse, and has continued consulting for the domestic violence nonprofit from her new perch, creating a direct line between the two groups.

The Clinton Foundation did not respond to a request for comment.

In addition to Arrington, Women Against Abuse hired Crossroads, a diversity consultancy that specializes in dismantling "white supremacy culture." Formerly known as Crossroads Ministry, the consulting group has worked with a wide range of organizations—including the Presbyterian Church—to "institutionalize accountability."

The stakes of this consultant-led metamorphosis are high. Women Against Abuse provides a panoply of services to abuse victims, from housing and legal representation to child care, case management, and crisis counseling. It is also the primary domestic violence shelter in Philadelphia, according to materials from the audit reviewed by the Free Beacon, and helps the city government coordinate efforts to address domestic violence, which surged across the country amid the pandemic.

After the consultants got involved, however, Women Against Abuse began hosting presentations on defunding the police, whom it discouraged non-white victims of domestic violence from calling.

"It is often unsafe for Black victims, victims of color and immigrant victims to reach out to police for help," the group posted on its website in the summer of 2020, given the "inherent racism" of law enforcement.

"The police have never been the solution to violence against women," asserted one PowerPoint presentation, which staffers were required to attend in May 2021. The presentation—"Defund the Police: Safety Planning"—counseled a "restorative justice" approach to domestic violence that used "community-based organizations."

Women Against Abuse did not respond to a request for comment about whom victims should call instead of police.

The group also jettisoned its membership in the Sanctuary Institute—effectively an accrediting body for domestic violence nonprofits—which outlines best practices for working with trauma victims. The audit found early on that those practices were a "safe harbor from confronting white supremacy," according to a July 2022 PowerPoint presentation summarizing the audit’s progress, because they focused on comforting people—not on holding them "accountable to things like micro-aggressions and white supremacy behaviors."

"I’m concerned about them getting rid of that model," said Levitt, a licensed therapist who counseled trauma victims before she became an attorney. "Who knows what they’ll replace it with?"

The relentless racialism didn’t just affect Women Against Abuse’s policies, but also its office culture. In February, Levitt filed a discrimination complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission alleging that her employer had created a "racially hostile work environment"—in part by asking white staffers to sign a statement affirming that "all white people are racist and that I am not the exception."

"In the name of ‘equity’ and ‘anti-racism,’" the complaint reads, Women Against Abuse "instituted race-focused programming under which employees are discriminated against, segregated, and barraged with negative racial stereotypes."

The group’s transformation began in July 2020, when the then-executive director of Women Against Abuse, Jeannine Lisitski, hired Arrington as a part-time diversity consultant.

"In a commitment to transparency (to counteract white dominant values like secrecy!) I’m reaching out to share an update about the work that we are doing as an agency to move closer to our goal to become an anti-racist organization," Lisitski emailed staff on July 15, 2020. As part of that work, Arrington would facilitate racial "affinity spaces for ongoing healing and conversation."

Lisitski also announced that the Women Against Abuse would be working with Crossroads to conduct a multiyear "equity audit," which Arrington would help to facilitate. The audit is ongoing to this day, according to the July 2022 PowerPoint, and Arrington has remained involved with it, serving as a liaison between Crossroads and Women Against Abuse.

The audit came as staffers were at each other’s throats over issues of race and identity—including the issue of whether Jews counted as an oppressed group. On July 23, 2020, a member of the legal center circulated an article about anti-Semitism in the Black Lives Matter movement. Levitt chimed in to endorse the article, writing that, with anti-Semitic violence on the rise, "I hope as an organization we would stand against this as well."

Her email elicited a torrent of vitriol from her colleagues, one of whom called it "a slap in the face of every brown and black person."

Anti-Semitism "is not woven into the fabric of American society," another staffer said. "White Supremacy is." Whatever fear Jews feel, the staffer added, is "nothing compared to what black Americans feel."

That was news to Levitt: She’d lived in Israel during the Second Intifada, she said in a follow-up email, where "I was personally shot at" and "some of my friends died."

Things went downhill from there. In November 2020, Women Against Abuse solicited applications for a "Racial Equity Audit Task Force" to help Arrington and Crossroads "eradicate" bias. True equality, the group made clear, would require white members of the task force to earn less than others.

"All task force members will receive a small stipend every pay period," Women Against Abuse told staffers in a November 10 email. "Due to the nature of this process and the additional emotional labor of unearthing many biases that negatively affect individuals with their shared identity, Black, Brown, Indigenous, and People of Color (BIPOC) staffers will receive a larger stipend."

"I was astounded they would do something so blatantly illegal," said Levitt, who included the incident in her discrimination complaint. Multiple civil rights laws, including Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, prohibit pay discrimination on the basis of race. Responding to the complaint, Women Against Abuse told the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that it would be ending the race-based stipend scheme.

The audit proceeded from the assumption that Women Against Abuse was steeped in racism—and that it was powerless to rectify that racism without the consultants’ help. "Your organization is caught up in a power arrangement that maintains racial inequality," a handout from Crossroads reads. "Your organization’s ‘solutions’ to racism are ultimately a part of the problem and do not affect change at a root level."

To come up with better solutions, Crossroads surveyed staffers in August 2020 on how Women Against Abuse "harmed," "exploited," and "disempowered" people of color. Several respondents singled out the Sanctuary Institute principles for criticism, according to the July 2022 PowerPoint from the audit. Others complained that the group’s legal center "centered around [a] criminal justice system that harms POC," and that Women Against Abuse expects staffers "to respond to upper management requests ASAP."

The audit also included a series of "skills-building sessions" moderated by Arrington, who spent each session dissecting a different aspect of "white supremacy culture." People of "all identities" could participate in the sessions, Arrington told staffers in an April 2021 email, because "white supremacy culture is a smog that we all ingest, digest, and push back out to the people around us." The constituent particles of that smog, her email continued, include a "sense of urgency" and "objectivity."

Though the skills-building sessions were optional, the racial affinity spaces were not, Levitt said. Arrington facilitated many of these spaces, including the legal center’s white affinity space, which in April 2021 drew up a "full value contract" it asked all white attorneys to sign.

The contract, a draft of which was reviewed by the Free Beacon, asked the attorneys to abide by 15 commandments. "Assume good intentions" was one. "Own that all white people are racist and that I am not the exception" was another.

Levitt refused to sign the contract—or attend any more of the segregated meetings.

"I found the idea of being separated into groups by skin color to be inherently racist and regressive, not to mention against the law," Levitt said. "I refused to take part in the scapegoating and demonizing of an entire race. Anyone with a sense of history will tell you that things didn't tend to go well when that happened."

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