POTUS 2016
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:14 pm
Apparently it is not too early for the speculations to start . . .
New polls fuel speculation about Hillary Clinton in 2016
New polls fuel speculation about Hillary Clinton in 2016
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Nearly a decade since I first saw that show, and I still can't figure out if that should be an endorsement or not.Enki wrote:...inspiration for Tommy Carcetti from 'The Wire'
Honestly I used to think this but nowadays I wouldn't rule it out. And it's irrelevant anyway.Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:The nation of Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian is not going to elect a haggard, shrill 69-year-old woman. Right or wrong, they're just not.
Typhoon wrote:Apparently it is not too early for the speculations to start . . .
New polls fuel speculation about Hillary Clinton in 2016
Thank You Very Much for your Post, Ibrahim.Ibrahim wrote:Typhoon wrote:Apparently it is not too early for the speculations to start . . .
New polls fuel speculation about Hillary Clinton in 2016
Clinton vs. Christie would be the most interesting. I doubt the GOP is dumb enough to retreated loser/embarrassment Ryan again, and Rubio seems to have baggage. I can't think of any other Democrats who really have a shot.
Also, (vomiting emoticon) that this is already begun.
Kirsten Gillibrand, Andrew Cuomo, Martin O'Malley, Mark Warner -- plenty of options.Ibrahim wrote:Typhoon wrote:Apparently it is not too early for the speculations to start . . .
New polls fuel speculation about Hillary Clinton in 2016
Clinton vs. Christie would be the most interesting. I doubt the GOP is dumb enough to retreated loser/embarrassment Ryan again, and Rubio seems to have baggage. I can't think of any other Democrats who really have a shot.
It's part of our system. It's a lot of work to prepare for 50 primaries/caucuses.Also, (vomiting emoticon) that this is already begun.
Martinez would be a good choice for a running-mate, most likely better than Rubio.monster_gardener wrote:But I think that Rubio or some other Hispano/Hispana will be on the Ticket as Veep........
Maybe a Hot Hispana Governor from a Hot normally DemocRat State......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susana_Martinez
Speaking of elections, don't you have one coming up? Who do you think you'll vote for? I would imagine that you aren't all that enthusiastic.Typhoon wrote:Apparently it is not too early for the speculations to start . . .
New polls fuel speculation about Hillary Clinton in 2016
A bit of an understatement.Azrael wrote:Speaking of elections, don't you have one coming up? Who do you think you'll vote for? I would imagine that you aren't all that enthusiastic.Typhoon wrote:Apparently it is not too early for the speculations to start . . .
New polls fuel speculation about Hillary Clinton in 2016
This will never happen, ever. Clinton could lose by the usual %50-%49 but no party is splitting apart, certainly not over somebody as vanilla is Clinton. Obama sold out to Wall Street and kept most of the Bush-era war piggery going, and everybody still lined up to rout the hated other team.Ammianus wrote:If Hillary runs, then the election automatically defaults to a Republican win. There are significant segments of the Democratic and leftwing base that do not want anything to do with her, and will most likely nominate their own alternative left candidate should she win the Dem primaries.
NopeAmmianus wrote:If Hillary runs, then the election automatically defaults to a Republican win. There are significant segments of the Democratic and leftwing base that do not want anything to do with her, and will most likely nominate their own alternative left candidate should she win the Dem primaries.
Hillary is probably the most popular politician in America now.Ammianus wrote:If Hillary runs, then the election automatically defaults to a Republican win. There are significant segments of the Democratic and leftwing base that do not want anything to do with her, and will most likely nominate their own alternative left candidate should she win the Dem primaries.
Thankfully, the nation of Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian doesn't vote unless it involves texting in their favorite ass clown on American Idol.Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:The nation of Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian is not going to elect a haggard, shrill 69-year-old woman. Right or wrong, they're just not.
We should start writing down everything our Republican friends say from now on. They could be right but odds are they'll be wrong. If we begin now, we can amass years of material to bludgeon them over the head with in post-2016 political debatesAzrael wrote:Hillary is probably the most popular politician in America now.Ammianus wrote:If Hillary runs, then the election automatically defaults to a Republican win. There are significant segments of the Democratic and leftwing base that do not want anything to do with her, and will most likely nominate their own alternative left candidate should she win the Dem primaries.
Show me a poll of anybody beating her.
It is hard to say 2 years out, but The NDP will likely lose seats, in Quebec and the Maritimes, but to the Liberals, who will recover somewhat from their low point. The Conservatives will probably lose a few seats to the Liberals as well, in Ontario (Greater Toronto Area suburbia) and the Maritimes. Conservatives will probably slip back into a minority government, though a strong minority overall, although they stand to benefit from new redistricting / seat re-apportioning that favors areas where they are strong like Alberta and the GTA suburbs. They'll gain some seats some places but lose probably more with a fall in the NDP giving less left-wing vote splitting than last time. They might take back a few in Quebec in the Quebec City and environs area as well without the "Orange Wave" anomaly of the last election. Stephen Harper might take a fall back to minority territory as a good time to step down from leadership after a good decade as PM.Azrael wrote:Ibrahim wrote:Typhoon wrote:Apparently it is not too early for the speculations to start . . .
Speaking of elections . . . during the next Canadian Parliamentary election, do you think Justin Trudeau (or whomever becomes leader of the Liberals) has a good shot, or are the Conservatives will bury them again? Will Thomas Mulcair be a factor?
anderson wrote:It is hard to say 2 years out, but The NDP will likely lose seats, in Quebec and the Maritimes, but to the Liberals, who will recover somewhat from their low point. The Conservatives will probably lose a few seats to the Liberals as well, in Ontario (Greater Toronto Area suburbia) and the Maritimes. Conservatives will probably slip back into a minority government, though a strong minority overall, although they stand to benefit from new redistricting / seat re-apportioning that favors areas where they are strong like Alberta and the GTA suburbs. They'll gain some seats some places but lose probably more with a fall in the NDP giving less left-wing vote splitting than last time. They might take back a few in Quebec in the Quebec City and environs area as well without the "Orange Wave" anomaly of the last election. Stephen Harper might take a fall back to minority territory as a good time to step down from leadership after a good decade as PM.Azrael wrote:Ibrahim wrote:Typhoon wrote:Apparently it is not too early for the speculations to start . . .
Speaking of elections . . . during the next Canadian Parliamentary election, do you think Justin Trudeau (or whomever becomes leader of the Liberals) has a good shot, or are the Conservatives will bury them again? Will Thomas Mulcair be a factor?
She will crush the female demographic. Just crush it. As interesting as various matchups would be as campaign theater, at the end of the day how do you beat that?Demon of Undoing wrote:Hillary will win. She has paid her dues. The low information crowd will be thrilled by the fairy tale America story of electing a woman after electing a black guy. And Hill is the real deal. Obama is a trickster in comparison, a Jar Jar to Hillary's Palpatine.
Thank You Very Much for your post, DOU.Demon of Undoing wrote:Hillary will win. She has paid her dues. The low information crowd will be thrilled by the fairy tale America story of electing a woman after electing a black guy. And Hill is the real deal. Obama is a trickster in comparison, a Jar Jar to Hillary's Palpatine.