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Folks,

Probably inspired by Donald Trump's Mexican wall, GOP candidate Scott Walker is interested in building a wall between the USA and Canada. Working together, these folks could successfully 'wall in' the USA.

However, are such measures really necessary?

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... terrorists

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manolo wrote:Folks,

Probably inspired by Donald Trump's Mexican wall, GOP candidate Scott Walker is interested in building a wall between the USA and Canada. Working together, these folks could successfully 'wall in' the USA.

However, are such measures really necessary?

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... terrorists

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Absolutely.

For Canada's sake. :wink:
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Typhoon wrote:
Absolutely.

For Canada's sake. :wink:
Typhoon,

It could stop the migrants:

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/20/world ... anada.html

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best to stop the interbreeding, you might get some dodgy canadomerkin halfbloods shooting you and then apologising for it.
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noddy wrote:best to stop the interbreeding, you might get some dodgy canadomerkin halfbloods shooting you and then apologising for it.
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Typhoon wrote:
noddy wrote:best to stop the interbreeding, you might get some dodgy canadomerkin halfbloods shooting you and then apologising for it.
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Actually, Canadomerkins apologize first. It's the Merkinadians who leave the apology for the funeral.
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Americans threaten to move to Canada (again) over Syrian refugees

If Americans keep threatening to do this, the Canadians may just build that wall for you. :wink:
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Typhoon wrote:Americans threaten to move to Canada (again) over Syrian refugees

If Americans keep threatening to do this, the Canadians may just build that wall for you. :wink:

Actually the American left already promised to move to Canada. As per usual they broke their promise. SO now they are trying to get Canada to move to the US. I still remember the Canadian woman on TV telling the world that Canada does not have the right to free speech. So I realize that being in Canada you have to be careful what you say CS :P
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Doc wrote:
Typhoon wrote:Americans threaten to move to Canada (again) over Syrian refugees

If Americans keep threatening to do this, the Canadians may just build that wall for you. :wink:

Actually the American left already promised to move to Canada. As per usual they broke their promise. SO now they are trying to get Canada to move to the US. I still remember the Canadian woman on TV telling the world that Canada does not have the right to free speech. So I realize that being in Canada you have to be careful what you say CS :P
Whom should one believe, an apocryphal story about some anecdotal comment by an unknown woman on some TV show, or every freedom and democracy index which all rank Canada above the USA. Along with my own personal experience.

Tough call.

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Far better to get out and travel and experience the world instead of having the rest of the world presented to one through filters.
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Typhoon wrote:
Doc wrote:
Typhoon wrote:Americans threaten to move to Canada (again) over Syrian refugees

If Americans keep threatening to do this, the Canadians may just build that wall for you. :wink:

Actually the American left already promised to move to Canada. As per usual they broke their promise. SO now they are trying to get Canada to move to the US. I still remember the Canadian woman on TV telling the world that Canada does not have the right to free speech. So I realize that being in Canada you have to be careful what you say CS :P
Whom should one believe, an apocryphal story about some anecdotal comment by an unknown woman on some TV show, or every freedom and democracy index which all rank Canada above the USA. Along with my own personal experience.

Tough call.

Travel broadens the mind.

Far better to get out and travel and experience the world instead of having the rest of the world presented to one through filters.
That was meant to be a Joke. I thought you already knew....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_o ... _in_Canada
Unlike many democracies, freedom of speech in Canada is not absolute; Section 1 of the Charter allows the government to pass laws that limit free expression so long as the limits are reasonable and can be justified.[1] This can often be the subject of controversy as some feel the conditions for reasonable justification are vague, granting the government an unreasonable amount of control over freedom of speech. Others feel that such restrictions are necessary in order to balance the fundamental freedoms of one party against those of another. Hate speech and obscenity are two examples that gain a lot of attention.[1]
But not to worry CS Canada may be about to have a flood of immigrants

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... inorities/
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40% of Millennials OK with limiting speech offensive to minorities

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American Millennials are far more likely than older generations to say the government should be able to prevent people from saying offensive statements about minority groups, according to a new analysis of Pew Research Center survey data on free speech and media across the globe.

U.S. Millennials More Likely to Support Censoring Offensive Statements About MinoritiesWe asked whether people believe that citizens should be able to make public statements that are offensive to minority groups, or whether the government should be able to prevent people from saying these things. Four-in-ten Millennials say the government should be able to prevent people publicly making statements that are offensive to minority groups, while 58% said such speech is OK.

Even though a larger share of Millennials favor allowing offensive speech against minorities, the 40% who oppose it is striking given that only around a quarter of Gen Xers (27%) and Boomers (24%) and roughly one-in-ten Silents (12%) say the government should be able to prevent such speech.

Compared with people we surveyed in dozens of nations, Americans as a whole are less likely to favor the government being able to prevent speech of any kind. The debate over what kind of speech should be tolerated in public has become a major story around the globe in recent weeks – from racial issues on many U.S. college campuses to questions about speech laws in Europe in the wake of concerns about refugees from the Middle East and the terrorist attacks in Paris.

Overall, our global survey found that a majority of Americans say that people should be able to say offensive things about minority groups publicly. Two-thirds of Americans say this, compared with a median of 35% among the 38 nations we polled.

In the U.S., our findings also show a racial divide on this question, with non-whites more likely (38%) to support government prevention of such speech than non-Hispanic whites (23%).

Nearly twice as many Democrats say the government should be able to stop speech against minorities (35%) compared with Republicans (18%). Independents, as is often the case, find themselves in the middle. One-third of all women say the government should be able to curtail speech that is offensive to minorities vs. 23% of men who say the same.

Furthermore, Americans who have a high school degree or less are more likely than those with at least a college degree to say that speech offensive to minority groups should be able to be restricted (a 9-percentage-point difference).

Europe More Supportive Than U.S. of Censoring Statements Offensive to MinoritiesIn Europe, where long-simmering racial tensions are of a different nature, compounded by the recent flow of migrants from North Africa and the Middle East, people are more willing than Americans to accept government controls on speech against minorities. A median of 49% across the six EU nations surveyed say this compared with 28% of Americans.

Among Europeans, there is a wide range of opinion on whether the government can prevent statements that are offensive to minorities. Seven-in-ten Germans say this should be the case (where there are clear laws against hate speech), as do 62% of Italians and half of Poles. The French are divided, with 48% saying that the government should have the ability to prevent speech that is offensive to minority groups, while 51% say people should be able to say these things publicly. In contrast, the balance of opinion in the UK and Spain is to allow people to say statements that might offend minorities.

In contrast with American Millennials, those ages 18 to 34 in Germany and Spain are more likely to say people should be able to say things offensive to minorities compared with those ages 35 and older. On the other hand, in the UK, the younger generation follows the lead of American Millennials by being less open to this form of freedom of speech and more willing to allow government restrictions. There are no significant age differences in France, Italy and Poland on this question.
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Like I said, travel broadens the mind.

Lots of countries have had constitutions, and like the US, they mostly have ignored or misapplied them.

By all measures, speech, press, economic, Canada ranks higher than the US when it comes to freedom.

A bitter pill for some, but then I didn't compound it.
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Just when one thought the POTUS candidates go not get any dumber, . . .

Ben Carson wants to create a ‘safer America’ — by deploying troops to the Canadian border

Carson manages to lower the bar. Again . . .
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