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The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:18 pm
by noddy
a kpop band had troubles entering the US, cause they thought they where sex workers, which makes sense because american poptarts dress very conservatively.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/mu ... a3f2f364cb
then the north korean girly band (!!!! NPOP?) had to leave china before giving a performance.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldkirk/ ... a-concert/
sinister parallels i say.
Re: the danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:48 pm
by YMix
noddy wrote:sinister parallels i say.
Isn't that the geographical area where you live?
Re: the danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:57 pm
by noddy
nar, them buggers was too uppity with all them diabolical plans and nonsense.
Re: the danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:30 am
by Simple Minded
noddy wrote:
sinister parallels i say.
PRC works in both instances........
Re: The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:01 pm
by Typhoon
The Asian woman as submissive subservient sex slave stereotype at work.
As opposed to the domineering Dragon Lady stereotype.
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Quite.
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The irony is the these girls train 10 hours a day and are forbidden by contract to have boyfriends.
My main complaint in both cases is that the music is so drill-a-hole-in-one's-head bland.
Interesting that in this aged of supposed female liberation,
the individual female singers and girl groups are more infantalized and/or sexualized than ever.
Compared to, say, the 1960's
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Re: The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:14 am
by Miss_Faucie_Fishtits
K-pop is apparently turning Chinese boys into........ o_o.......
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To fight K-pop’s influence in China, a club teaches young boys to be alpha males
Influenced by K-pop idols in Korea, China’s boy bands and celebrities — with their delicate beauty, dyed hair and haute couture wardrobes — have a massive following among women here. But China’s state-run media condemns the young idols, calling them “sissy pants" and “fresh young meat.”
https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-chi ... 3oguXiy1x4
Re: The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:20 am
by noddy
https://gfycat.com/sandyfluidirishdraughthorse
For the purposes of science, I watched this on a loop for ages but alas so far I havent turned pretty nor started wearing makeup.
Re: The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:56 am
by Typhoon
Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:K-pop is apparently turning Chinese boys into........ o_o.......
.......
To fight K-pop’s influence in China, a club teaches young boys to be alpha males
Influenced by K-pop idols in Korea, China’s boy bands and celebrities — with their delicate beauty, dyed hair and haute couture wardrobes — have a massive following among women here. But China’s state-run media condemns the young idols, calling them “sissy pants" and “fresh young meat.”
https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-chi ... 3oguXiy1x4
Male hosts at host bars for women in Japan also tend to be effeminate looking "pretty boys".
One hypothesis I've heard advanced for this is that they comes across as "less threatening" to women.
Not being female, no idea if this is accurate or not.
Re: The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:33 am
by Miss_Faucie_Fishtits
The tendency for me is to make me say 'sweetie' and 'honey' a lot, and I'm not sure that would be appreciated very much......'>........
Re: The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:36 pm
by Miss_Faucie_Fishtits
There may be precedent for the K-Pop phenomena. Here's a good case for it....'>.......
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Re: The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:55 pm
by Typhoon
Masculinity. In some places it's said to overflowing to the point of being "toxic", in others it is apparently lacking.
Int NY Times | A ‘Masculinity Crisis’? China Says the Boys Are Not All Right
The Education Ministry plans to beef up gym classes after a top official said female teachers and pop culture had made boys “weak, inferior, and timid.”
The taxonomy in Japan
nikushoku-kei danshi (肉食系男子; carnivore guys): Classic macho guys who go after what – and who – they want.
sōshoku-kei danshi (草食系男子; herbivore guys): Shy guys who don’t make a move; prey for the growing number of nikushoku-kei josei (carnivore girls).
roru kyabetsu danshi (ロールキャベツ男子; roll cabbage guys): Guys who appear to be herbivores but are actually carnivore to the core; named for the classic yōshoku (Japanese-style western food) dish of cooked cabbage stuffed with meat.
asupara bēkon-maki danshi (アスパラベーコン巻き男子; bacon-wrapped asparagus guys): Guys who come across as carnivores but later reveal themselves to be herbivores; named for the yakitori dish.
zasshoku-kei danshi (雑食系男子; omnivorous guys): Guys who will go with whatever works.
zesshoku-kei danshi (絶食系男子; fasting guys): Guys with zero interest in women.
Re: The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:16 am
by Simple Minded
Colonel Sun wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:55 pm
Masculinity. In some places it's said to overflowing to the point of being "toxic", in others it is apparently lacking.
Int NY Times | A ‘Masculinity Crisis’? China Says the Boys Are Not All Right
The Education Ministry plans to beef up gym classes after a top official said female teachers and pop culture had made boys “weak, inferior, and timid.”
The taxonomy in Japan
nikushoku-kei danshi (肉食系男子; carnivore guys): Classic macho guys who go after what – and who – they want.
sōshoku-kei danshi (草食系男子; herbivore guys): Shy guys who don’t make a move; prey for the growing number of nikushoku-kei josei (carnivore girls).
roru kyabetsu danshi (ロールキャベツ男子; roll cabbage guys): Guys who appear to be herbivores but are actually carnivore to the core; named for the classic yōshoku (Japanese-style western food) dish of cooked cabbage stuffed with meat.
asupara bēkon-maki danshi (アスパラベーコン巻き男子; bacon-wrapped asparagus guys): Guys who come across as carnivores but later reveal themselves to be herbivores; named for the yakitori dish.
zasshoku-kei danshi (雑食系男子; omnivorous guys): Guys who will go with whatever works.
zesshoku-kei danshi (絶食系男子; fasting guys): Guys with zero interest in women.
So, since "honkys" and "n*ggers" don't work as insults in Japan, labels that are intended to insult are named after Chinese food?
That seems a bit harsh.
Re: The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:49 am
by NapLajoieonSteroids
Colonel Sun wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:56 am
Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:K-pop is apparently turning Chinese boys into........ o_o.......
.......
To fight K-pop’s influence in China, a club teaches young boys to be alpha males
Influenced by K-pop idols in Korea, China’s boy bands and celebrities — with their delicate beauty, dyed hair and haute couture wardrobes — have a massive following among women here. But China’s state-run media condemns the young idols, calling them “sissy pants" and “fresh young meat.”
https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-chi ... 3oguXiy1x4
Male hosts at host bars for women in Japan also tend to be effeminate looking "pretty boys".
One hypothesis I've heard advanced for this is that they comes across as "less threatening" to women.
Not being female, no idea if this is accurate or not.
To these eyes, the guys on the far left and far right may be pretty boys but they still look like boys-- 2, 3 & 4 really start crossing into unknown territory if I were to see these random face pictures without any context.
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As for the hypothesis, I've read it put in a cruder way, "Androgynous boys are for those girls who think they are keeping a big secret from the rest of the world. They- and only they- are really into penis; it is a discovery they made on their own and keep to themselves, with the world none the wiser."
Re: The danger of korean girly pop
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:40 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Those haircuts look anime influenced. Which is androgynous to be sure, but the psychology is different.