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Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:49 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
YMix wrote:What came first: the stagnating wage or the need for a discount?
What came first was a radical change in the nature of both capital and labor.

Trying to adjust 21C society to this change using 19C ideologies is simply not going to work.
What is a 21st century ideology.
An eclectic pragmatism.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:39 am
by Zack Morris
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Typhoon wrote:I'm a bit skeptical of this one sided stuff.
Rightfully so. Capitalism shoud work if it was spiritually righteous and honestly attempted.
Personally, I doubt that I will live to see that day.
Capitalism works great under any condition. That is why it scares who it scares.
Is that why no nation in the world practices the capitalism you advocate?

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:31 pm
by Typhoon
IEEE | Advanced economies must still make things
Take away manufacturing and you’re left with...selfies
That and the FIRE economy, so-called.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:49 pm
by YMix
Israel passes law to cap bankers' salaries

Israel has introduced one of the world’s toughest curbs on bank executives’ salaries in an effort to narrow a big pay gap between bosses and workers.

The legislation was pushed through by the finance minister, Rhubarb Kahlon, who, before last year’s parliamentary elections, ran on a platform of lowering the cost of living and reforming Israel’s banks. It was approved in parliament overnight in a 56-0 vote and will take effect in six months.

[...]

“There is a moral significance beyond the economic significance in this law,” Kahlon said on Tuesday. “It symbolises narrowing pay gaps, solidarity and consideration for the weak.“

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Right-wing Israeli parliament passes solidarity bill. Mr. Perfect faints on his porch.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:21 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
The rest of the international bankster's should also get one of the high Kahlonics.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:43 am
by noddy
Rhubarb Kahlon
thats an awesome name - shame its the amusement filter for m0she :[


as for topic, i was under the general impression that israeli right wing was a completely different set of rules to merkin right wing.

things like a kibbutz would be absurd in merkia.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:40 pm
by YMix
noddy wrote:as for topic, i was under the general impression that israeli right wing was a completely different set of rules to merkin right wing.
They are obviously leftists.
things like a kibbutz would be absurd in merkia.
https://archive.org/details/communisticsoci02nordgoog

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:41 pm
by YMix
Deutsche Bank to settle U.S. silver price-fixing litigation

Deutsche Bank AG has agreed to settle U.S. litigation over allegations it illegally conspired with Bank of Nova Scotia and HSBC Holdings Plc to fix silver prices at the expense of investors, a court filing on Wednesday showed.

Terms were not disclosed, but the accord will include a monetary payment by the German bank, a letter filed in Manhattan federal court by lawyers for the investors said.

Deutsche Bank has signed a binding settlement term sheet, and is negotiating a formal settlement agreement to be submitted for approval by U.S. District Judge Valerie Caproni, who oversees the litigation.

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Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:22 am
by Mr. Perfect
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
YMix wrote:What came first: the stagnating wage or the need for a discount?
What came first was a radical change in the nature of both capital and labor.

Trying to adjust 21C society to this change using 19C ideologies is simply not going to work.
What is a 21st century ideology.
An eclectic pragmatism.
That's not an ideology.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:24 am
by Mr. Perfect
Zack Morris wrote: Is that why no nation in the world practices the capitalism you advocate?
No. The reason no one practices it is because they were suckered by the promise of free stuff so they don't have to work anymore. Which of course has never shown up.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:40 am
by Nonc Hilaire
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
YMix wrote:What came first: the stagnating wage or the need for a discount?
What came first was a radical change in the nature of both capital and labor.

Trying to adjust 21C society to this change using 19C ideologies is simply not going to work.
What is a 21st century ideology.
An eclectic pragmatism.
That's not an ideology.
Ideology is another word for lazy, reductionist, cookie cutter thinking. Don't be an ideologit. Things are typically more complicated than they first appear.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:50 am
by Mr. Perfect
You brought it up.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:32 am
by Nonc Hilaire
Mr. Perfect wrote:You brought it up.
I said it was a 19C style of thinking.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:46 am
by Mr. Perfect
I asked you what a 21st century ideology is and you made up something out of thin air as anyone can read.

Anti-ideology is an ideology, its as old as any, and the weakest because it is dishonest. Anti-ideology is employed when the ideology of choice has failed and can no longer be associated with in public.

The dying leftist message seems to be "there are these horrible problems over there and someone else should do something about them", Monty Python territory.

The fact is that leftism under obama and his international cohorts has been a complete failure and the only way it can survive politically is to scare the h#!! out of minorities.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:44 am
by Nonc Hilaire
Anti-Ideology is ideology.

War is peace.

Slavery is freedom.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:48 am
by Mr. Perfect
Anti ideology is passive aggressive. Not surprisingly passive aggressive folks take to it like a Clinton takes to a Goldman Sachs meeting.

We can come up with different terminology if it will help.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:10 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Mr. Perfect wrote:Anti ideology is passive aggressive. Not surprisingly passive aggressive folks take to it like a Clinton takes to a Goldman Sachs meeting.

We can come up with different terminology if it will help.
Capitalism is wonderful for business ideology but has turned out horribly as a means of running government. Socialism seems to work ok for fire, police and public utilities but is a bad idea in general.

Now we have neoliberal and neoconservative ideologies, which are simply two similar euphemisms for globalist imperialism (Hillary is functionally the same as Cheney). People can't seem to function without the intellectual crutch of outdated left/right, conservative/liberal, capitalist/communist dichotomies.

Ideology is the child of 18C rationalism and has no place in the post-modern world.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:44 pm
by Simple Minded
Nonc Hilaire wrote:

People can't seem to function without the intellectual crutch of outdated left/right, conservative/liberal, capitalist/communist dichotomies.
+1

putting everything one encounters into a couple boxes that one is comfortable with seems a very common coping mechanism.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:40 pm
by Mr. Perfect
And denying the boxes exist is another coping mechanism. Binophobic.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:42 pm
by Mr. Perfect
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Capitalism is wonderful for business ideology but has turned out horribly as a means of running government. Socialism seems to work ok for fire, police and public utilities but is a bad idea in general.

Now we have neoliberal and neoconservative ideologies, which are simply two similar euphemisms for globalist imperialism (Hillary is functionally the same as Cheney). People can't seem to function without the intellectual crutch of outdated left/right, conservative/liberal, capitalist/communist dichotomies.

Ideology is the child of 18C rationalism and has no place in the post-modern world.
:) For someone in denial about ideology you seem to have a firm grasp on the language and how to use it as a weapon.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:56 am
by Typhoon

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:11 am
by Heracleum Persicum

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:43 pm
by YMix
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Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:56 pm
by YMix
Walmart's VP of Emerging Sciences Shekar Natarajan demoed the retailer's new technology to reporters from a Bentonville, Arkansas distribution center on Thursday, on the eve of its annual shareholders meeting.

The drone technology will be replacing the jobs of inventory quality assurance employees, cutting inventory checks across massive distribution centers — the one in Bentonville is 1.2 million square feet — from one month down to a single day.

Re: Capitalism and Its Discontents

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:46 pm
by Parodite
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