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Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:23 pm
by Heracleum Persicum
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Apple and Facebook join race to build augmented reality glasses
Tech groups bet device could replace smartphone as consumers’ primary computing tool
Apple and Facebook are gearing up to challenge start-up Magic Leap and Microsoft’s HoloLens in the race to create a pair of augmented reality glasses that could one day replace the smartphone as consumers’ primary computing device.
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Re: augmented reality glas
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:04 am
by noddy
AR is very cool but its going to run into the same brickwall that google glass did and thats constant video devices are culturally hated - "glassholes"
it will be trapped in loungerooms and specialty work environments like interior decorators, we are still a long way off accepting it everywhere.
Re: augmented reality glas
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:03 am
by Nonc Hilaire
FT is paywalled.
Re: augmented reality glas
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:26 pm
by Simple Minded
noddy wrote:AR is very cool but its going to run into the same brickwall that google glass did and thats constant video devices are culturally hated - "glassholes"
it will be trapped in loungerooms and specialty work environments like interior decorators, we are still a long way off accepting it everywhere.
"glassholes" sounds like a hipster micro-aggression.
But if cheap, readily available AR means the glassholes voluntarily migrate to their own separate reality, where is the downside?
Joe never leaves his house, but lives on Mars. Fred never leaves his house but is a Roman Emperor. Zack & Mr. P never leave their respective houses, yet are engaged in a life long moral crusade to save Earth & humanity from the other one.
Virtual segregation, virtual border walls, Big Brother no longer forcing the "Rugged Individualists" to participate or the "pseudo-egalitarians" to pay their fair share, everyone wins!
Haven't we already started down that path? Isn't it a good path cause we are fighting WWIII with imagination rather than actual weapons?
Re: augmented reality glas
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:26 am
by noddy
Simple Minded wrote: Big Brother no longer forcing the "Rugged Individualists" to participate or the "pseudo-egalitarians" to pay their fair share, everyone wins!
Simple Minded wrote: Haven't we already started down that path? Isn't it a good path cause we are fighting WWIII with imagination rather than actual weapons?
the japanese have been perfecting the appropriate uniforms.
Re: augmented reality glas
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:08 pm
by Simple Minded
noddy wrote:Simple Minded wrote: Big Brother no longer forcing the "Rugged Individualists" to participate or the "pseudo-egalitarians" to pay their fair share, everyone wins!
Simple Minded wrote: Haven't we already started down that path? Isn't it a good path cause we are fighting WWIII with imagination rather than actual weapons?
the japanese have been perfecting the appropriate uniforms.
We can't compete with them. We shoulda just surrendered in the early 1980's! and followed their lead like a bunch of cold, hungry, lonely, lost puppies
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:27 pm
by Heracleum Persicum
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Teledildonics
Sex toys that connect to internet
Designed for people in long distance-relationship
Well, folks .. one can have a girlfriend 10,000 miles away and feel just next to her, visit together places, talk, and, have sex.
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Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:44 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Seriously, augmented reality would be great for museums, historical sites etc. Battlefields would be awesome where you could see CGI armies in the field.
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:38 am
by Simple Minded
I was doing that 45 years ago.... without any technology. I was Karl Marx's ideal disciple.
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:43 am
by Simple Minded
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Seriously, augmented reality would be great for museums, historical sites etc. Battlefields would be awesome where you could see CGI armies in the field.
It would also be kinda neat to have physical locations, like movie theaters, resorts, etc. to enable those want to continually fight the Civil War, WWII, the Crusades, witness the resurrection of Jesus, walk with Mohammed or the Buddha, etc. to check out of society for a few hours, or days and live in that reality.
It would be interesting to see how many would never want to return to their ordinary, daily lives.
West World with out the expensive infrastructure.
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:52 am
by noddy
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Seriously, augmented reality would be great for museums, historical sites etc. Battlefields would be awesome where you could see CGI armies in the field.
yeh,its great tech.
the only problem is the fact it needs always on videos of various flavours to capture the 3d information required to generate the CGI in situ.
noone wants constant surveillance from all angles all the time, let alone adding 3d to the mix
we need this thread and the GOP selling your web history thread in a head to head battle to the death!
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:57 am
by NapLajoieonSteroids
noddy wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Seriously, augmented reality would be great for museums, historical sites etc. Battlefields would be awesome where you could see CGI armies in the field.
yeh,its great tech.
the only problem is the fact it needs always on videos of various flavours to capture the 3d information required to generate the CGI in situ.
noone wants constant surveillance from all angles all the time, let alone adding 3d to the mix
we need this thread and the GOP selling your web history thread in a head to head battle to the death!
The contradiction suggests that us people want recognition but not ridicule.
Once we figure out a way to make sure no one anywhere can ridicule anyone else for anything, we are good to go. Easy.
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:24 am
by noddy
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: Once we figure out a way to make sure no one anywhere can ridicule anyone else for anything, we are good to go. Easy.
if it was just ridicule it might be alright.
losing employment opportunities or having legal problems due to shifting dogmatic wankery is the real and present fear
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:37 am
by Simple Minded
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:
The contradiction suggests that us people want recognition but not ridicule.
Once we figure out a way to make sure no one anywhere can ridicule anyone else for anything, we are good to go. Easy.
Just like putting a mirror in a parakeet cage........ like I told noddy, write the app that turns your smartphone screen into a mirror. Big $.
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:23 pm
by NapLajoieonSteroids
Simple Minded wrote:NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:
The contradiction suggests that us people want recognition but not ridicule.
Once we figure out a way to make sure no one anywhere can ridicule anyone else for anything, we are good to go. Easy.
Just like putting a mirror in a parakeet cage........ like I told noddy, write the app that turns your smartphone screen into a mirror. Big $.
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Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:27 pm
by NapLajoieonSteroids
The constant-camera thing a real turn off
and so is the aesthetics of wearables- there is a point where they are affectations and then you're the ponce walking around....and you don't wanna mess with the physical symmetry of your face. Wearing Google Glasses was lame to the majority of the population that didn't like that Star Trek character with the thing which went around his eyes...or more succinctly, a small portion of people.
Nothing wrong with glasses, and today's frames are a lot better, but wearables get into a lame fashion territory that's going to slow down general adaption.
Look at how the smartwatch his a wall.
People should be looking into constantly-on creepy devices that fit in the ear. An internet connected super- hearing aid will sell to a lot of people.
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:38 pm
by noddy
siri, google now, alexa, cortana and bixby - all phones ,desktops and in home iot devices come with always on audio analysis which cant be switched off.
just in case you were not joking, its hard to tell these days.
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:45 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
noddy wrote:siri, google now, alexa, cortana and bixby - all phones ,desktops and in home iot devices come with always on audio analysis which cant be switched off.
just in case you were not joking, its hard to tell these days.
I have a teenage daughter so I'm accustomed to always on audio analysis.
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:39 am
by noddy
... and the statute of limitations on accidentally clumsy mutterings is limitless ....
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:58 am
by NapLajoieonSteroids
noddy wrote:siri, google now, alexa, cortana and bixby - all phones ,desktops and in home iot devices come with always on audio analysis which cant be switched off.
just in case you were not joking, its hard to tell these days.
I'll try to be clearer next time. The real growth will be where you most expect it: smart cod pieces.
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:44 am
by noddy
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:noddy wrote:siri, google now, alexa, cortana and bixby - all phones ,desktops and in home iot devices come with always on audio analysis which cant be switched off.
just in case you were not joking, its hard to tell these days.
I'll try to be clearer next time. The real growth will be where you most expect it: smart cod pieces.
business has had its up and downs this year but we think demand in the marketplace is swelling.
whilst some divisions have misrepresented growth this will not stop the thrust into fresh openings.
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:36 pm
by Simple Minded
Do they make augmented reality "safety glasses?" Isn't that what people really want? Or augmented reality glasses with rose colored lenses?
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:18 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:noddy wrote:siri, google now, alexa, cortana and bixby - all phones ,desktops and in home iot devices come with always on audio analysis which cant be switched off.
just in case you were not joking, its hard to tell these days.
I'll try to be clearer next time. The real growth will be where you most expect it: smart cod pieces.
Smart cod pieces = fish & chips?
Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:10 pm
by Heracleum Persicum
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' easily hacked '
. . as well as control other functions.
Some We-Vibe models collected intimate user data and sent it back to the manufacturer without the user's consent.
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Re: Augmented reality glasses
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:08 am
by noddy
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: People should be looking into constantly-on creepy devices that fit in the ear. An internet connected super- hearing aid will sell to a lot of people.
as i said, i couldnt tell if you were joking.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... -or-smile/
Send a smiley with a smile. A prototype earbud can detect facial expressions and convert them into smartphone controls, like answering a phone call when you wink or launching Wikipedia when you open your mouth. It could be used by people with impaired movement or as a hands-free tool for drivers.
“We’re not trying to replace current input methods, just complement them,” says Denys Matthies at the Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Research in Rostock, Germany. You’re not always able to take your phone out of your pocket or look down at the screen, but might still like to be able to pause your music or pick up a call, he says.
Matthies and his colleagues developed a prototype system consisting of an earbud kitted out with electrodes that recognise changes in ear-canal shape when you make different facial expressions. A reference electrode attaches to the earlobe with a peg. When someone smiles, for example, muscles in the ear move as well. This causes the earbud to deform and produce a detectable change in electrical field that can be mapped to the corresponding face movement.
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At the moment, the system can detect five different expressions – smiling, winking an eye, turning your head to the right, opening your mouth and saying a “shh” sound – with an accuracy of 90 per cent.