Re: The End of the MSM and the Deep State
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:26 pm
I cannot remember the last time I watched network news or read a newspaper. I do not think am an outlier, either. The media really is failing rapidly.
Another day in the Universe
https://www.onthenatureofthings.net/forum/
https://www.onthenatureofthings.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3859
You're citing the WSJ's editorial board?Typhoon wrote:Articles such asZack Morris wrote:The MSM was supposed to be dead Mr P. The Russia thing a "nothing burger". But now we've got confirmation it's a "something burger" after all. NYT, Donnie Jr., and today new revelations from the WSJ. Once again you guys are wrong. How often can a person be wrong? I don't know but you're breaking records
WJS | Keystone Kops Collusion [paywalled]
This set of hard hitting revelations does have have makings of a cheese[y]burger order:By the Editorial Board
Updated July 12, 2017 10:12 a.m. ET
President Trump’s critics claim to have uncovered proof, finally, of 2016 collusion between the campaign and the Kremlin.
Another reading of the meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a well-connected Russian lawyer is, well, political farce.
hold the tomato, hold the lettuce, hold the cheese, hold the patty, and hold the bun.
Facts are facts. Their record of publishing factual content is hardly in dispute here. Every time a revelation is dropped, the Trump Davidians cry "fake news", but then it virtually always turns out to be factually true.Typhoon wrote:"Objective observers" and "Objective standards".Zack Morris wrote:Pravda was easily proven wrong by objective observers. The NYT is high quality by any objective standard. It beats every conservative publication
Translations. "People who agree with me" and "Views that do not differ from my own".
Where were the over-the-top histrionics in the article about Donnie Jr.'s meeting?The NY Times today, with its over-the-top histrionics, makes the turgid agitprop of past Pravda seem tame by comparison.
The MSM was not "dead wrong". Trump's victory was within the margin of error and Clinton resoundingly defeated him in the popular vote count. Duh.Dead wrong about the Republicrat Primary, dead wrong about the POTUS Election, and since then constantly promoting unsubstantiated allegations from "unnamed sources" which turn out to be worth bupkes. That and 70's style doomer porn.
At the end of the day, you all cite the MSM: the Associated Press, Reuters, and the papers of record. You don't have any alternative news sources.Simple Minded wrote:Once again, that's why we keep the NYT in NYC. Time to blow the bridges, tunnels, and mine the waterways to quarantine the contagion?Typhoon wrote:"Objective observers" and "Objective standards".Zack Morris wrote:Pravda was easily proven wrong by objective observers. The NYT is high quality by any objective standard. It beats every conservative publication
Translations. "People who agree with me" and "Views that do not differ from my own".
The NY Times today, with its over-the-top histrionics, makes the turgid agitprop of past Pravda seem tame by comparison.
Quite a step down from "All the News that's Fit to Print" to "All the News that Fits We Print".
Dead wrong about the Republicrat Primary, dead wrong about the POTUS Election, and since then constantly promoting unsubstantiated allegations from "unnamed sources" which turn out to be worth bupkes. That and 70's style doomer porn.
All the while hemorrhaging money.
People who aren't drinking from the locally doped water supply need not subscribe. Maybe the National Enquirer will buy the NYT.....
Don't be so hard on the yute, Nonc.Nonc Hilaire wrote:I cannot remember the last time I watched network news or read a newspaper. I do not think am an outlier, either. The media really is failing rapidly.
Simple Minded wrote:Nonc Hilaire wrote:I cannot remember the last time I watched network news or read a newspaper. I do not think am an outlier, either. The media really is failing rapidly.
Don't be so hard on the yute, Nonc.
NYC coastal elitists thinking everything in the NYT is gospel, is no different that a Born Again Christian thinking the New Testament is gospel.
If one wishes to practice either faith, the respective sources are true by definition.
The science is settled.
A good question.Zack Morris wrote:Facts are facts. Their record of publishing factual content is hardly in dispute here. Every time a revelation is dropped, the Trump Davidians cry "fake news", but then it virtually always turns out to be factually true.Typhoon wrote:"Objective observers" and "Objective standards".Zack Morris wrote:Pravda was easily proven wrong by objective observers. The NYT is high quality by any objective standard. It beats every conservative publication
Translations. "People who agree with me" and "Views that do not differ from my own".
Where were the over-the-top histrionics in the article about Donnie Jr.'s meeting?The NY Times today, with its over-the-top histrionics, makes the turgid agitprop of past Pravda seem tame by comparison.
The MSM was not "dead wrong". Trump's victory was within the margin of error and Clinton resoundingly defeated him in the popular vote count. Duh.Dead wrong about the Republicrat Primary, dead wrong about the POTUS Election, and since then constantly promoting unsubstantiated allegations from "unnamed sources" which turn out to be worth bupkes. That and 70's style doomer porn.
But hey, what do I know?
I find the Grauniad and the NY Times mostly risible, but I still read both when time permits.I don't read "Reason" magazine (conservative agitprop).
I do and couldZack Morris wrote: . . .
At the end of the day, you all cite the MSM: the Associated Press, Reuters, and the papers of record. You don't have any alternative news sources.
Saying things like this suggests you don't read period.Zack Morris wrote: But hey, what do I know? I don't read "Reason" magazine (conservative agitprop).
Personally, I don't blame Zack a bit. Can you imagine walking around NYC with a copy of Reason Magazine under your arm, you'd never get laid!NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:Saying things like this suggests you don't read period.Zack Morris wrote: But hey, what do I know? I don't read "Reason" magazine (conservative agitprop).
I think the problem is that I read too much and I'm just too clear-eyed to fall for the ruse that Reason represents some alternative to Republican orthodoxy. When Reason writers are penning op eds in the WSJ about tried and true right wing tropes, such as the nanny state ruining summer for children, you know it's officially jumped the shark.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:Saying things like this suggests you don't read period.Zack Morris wrote: But hey, what do I know? I don't read "Reason" magazine (conservative agitprop).
So tell me Zack Morris What would you progressivses do with the lives of the "culturally homogeneous, poorly educated, and poorly traveled." like me? OH I forgot for a moment....Zack Morris wrote:HRCs support correlated with educational attainment. The Trump Davidians are the ones exhibiting the group think: culturally homogeneous, poorly educated, and poorly traveled.
Really. Tell me about statistics of black and Hispanic Americans and their education level and travels to Europe.Zack Morris wrote:HRCs support correlated with educational attainment. The Trump Davidians are the ones exhibiting the group think: culturally homogeneous, poorly educated, and poorly traveled.
Lol that's how you attained superminority status without realizing it? By reading too much? Lulz.Zack Morris wrote: I think the problem is that I read too much and I'm just too clear-eyed to fall for the ruse that Reason represents some alternative to Republican orthodoxy. When Reason writers are penning op eds in the WSJ about tried and true right wing tropes, such as the nanny state ruining summer for children, you know it's officially jumped the shark.
Oh?Zack Morris wrote:HRCs support correlated with educational attainment. The Trump Davidians are the ones exhibiting the group think: culturally homogeneous, poorly educated, and poorly traveled.
Nice bit of legerdemain.Zack Morris wrote:I think the problem is that I read too much and I'm just too clear-eyed to fall for the ruse that Reason represents some alternative to Republican orthodoxy. When Reason writers are penning op eds in the WSJ about tried and true right wing tropes, such as the nanny state ruining summer for children, you know it's officially jumped the shark.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:Saying things like this suggests you don't read period.Zack Morris wrote: But hey, what do I know? I don't read "Reason" magazine (conservative agitprop).
Yep. The NYC effect is a thing of beauty. I think the water supply is doped. Not so much of a group think, in my experience, but of a religious cult of arrogance, superiority, general hatred of humanity, and condescension. I think it is peer pressure and cosmic justice.Nonc Hilaire wrote:I just returned from a few days in Brooklyn and the level of groupthink in NYC is astounding. There is also TV news everywhere. I can see how it might explain how HRC only got support in a few deep but isolated population islands.