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Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:41 am
by noddy
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Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:20 am
by Mr. Perfect
Lol tbh your accountant dentist meme has not begun to get old yet.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 6:08 am
by noddy
harley davidson , PRS, Fender/Gibson custom shops and the career of Joe Bonawhatsisfacea are dependant on that meme flourishing!

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:37 am
by Mr. Perfect
This is a little grouping of the latest blues guitar bros and tbh they play really really good. If you like this kind of music you should be really happy, and it's really hard to be happy about music a lot of the time. So you have to appreciate what you get.

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Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 9:58 am
by noddy
Eric Gales is kinda fun, he seems to have a level of inspiration I find lacking in the rest, I mean to chase up more of his work and see whats going on there.

I dont dislike this sort of thing and its fine as background music, but alas, it all just strikes me like trad jazz, a dead genre with rules and a standard set of backing tracks and solos that everyone does, their are a bunch of guys who can play that well but very few who can take it to next level and just tweek it enough with inspiration and make it feel new again.

sorta like the best of the 80/90's revivalists did, freshen it up for a new age and new earholes, it deserves that somehow.

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reminded me of these guys, surely derivative of 60's blues rock and soul stuff but managed to make it sound fresh, the solo isnt much to listen to but the general rythym of the thing is pretty solid.

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this guy solid for one of the new guys, keeps it pumping first, sneaks in bits of lick around it.

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Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:05 pm
by Juno
looks like they dragged the guitar up highway 9, sounds like an angel is playing it.
looks like they dragged the guitar up highway 9, sounds like an angel is playing it.
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http://www.truetemperament.com/necks/

thot this might be of interest, especially to Mr. Perfect. these have been around a while I am surprised they are not more common.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 6:12 am
by noddy
they are very cool - ive seen folks like Steve Vai using them.

in the practical world, most folks arent tuning nor playing their guitars accurately enough for these flaws to be apparent - minor differences in pressing weight on the string will also move the tuning by a few cents.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:53 pm
by Mr. Perfect
Yep, I've got 3 of them. 2 strats and a tele, locking tuners, TT frets, roller nuts, the only way to go.

I got Warmoth necks and shipped them over. They are everything as advertised. My next build will probably be a Les Paul with TT frets.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:17 pm
by Juno
Mr. Perfect wrote:Yep, I've got 3 of them. 2 strats and a tele, locking tuners, TT frets, roller nuts, the only way to go.

I got Warmoth necks and shipped them over. They are everything as advertised. My next build will probably be a Les Paul with TT frets.
What? no Duesenberg?

edit: also, they have a place in Austin now: https://tttexas.com

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:42 am
by noddy
you got me curious about upgrading my old strat, but i cant find them.

https://www.warmoth.com/Pages/GuitarNecks.aspx

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:51 am
by Juno
noddy wrote:you got me curious about upgrading my old strat, but i cant find them.

https://www.warmoth.com/Pages/GuitarNecks.aspx
The guy who invented them is in Stockholm http://www.truetemperament.com/

He has a partnership or a joint venture with the guys in Austin - for the fretting system.

One way they do it is you send them your neck and they take off the fingerboard and put on a new one with the TT frets. That way you keep the original headstock.
They will also make you a neck and send it to you, and you swap your out.

I don't understand why there aren't more manufacturer's offering this as an option, I'm no super pro, but watching the videos I can immediately tell the difference. I wonder if Mr. Perfect would share his experience with them. I'm waiting for my first neck to be made...

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:12 am
by noddy
aah ok - I thought Mr P said he got them from Warmoth.

the downside is that you no longer can just refret them easily and im not sure how it works against changing string gauges / tensions / capo - wouldnt you immediately lose the benefit ?

so it makes sense on some instruments, im not sure it makes sense on all of them.

for my playing, i cant say i could hear the small differences but i sound like a tortured cat anyway.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:28 am
by Juno
noddy wrote:aah ok - I thought Mr P said he got them from Warmoth.

the downside is that you no longer can just refret them easily and im not sure how it works against changing string gauges / tensions / capo - wouldnt you immediately lose the benefit ?

so it makes sense on some instruments, im not sure it makes sense on all of them.

for my playing, i cant say i could hear the small differences but i sound like a tortured cat anyway.
Many of those questions are answered at http://www.truetemperament.com/faq/
I think a capo would work in almost all situations.

Listen to some of the links on youtube, especially when the guy plays an open D chord and then runs it up the neck. You can tell the difference.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 5:16 am
by Miss_Faucie_Fishtits
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Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 9:09 pm
by Mr. Perfect
noddy wrote:aah ok - I thought Mr P said he got them from Warmoth.

the downside is that you no longer can just refret them easily and im not sure how it works against changing string gauges / tensions / capo - wouldnt you immediately lose the benefit ?

so it makes sense on some instruments, im not sure it makes sense on all of them.

for my playing, i cant say i could hear the small differences but i sound like a tortured cat anyway.
Back in the day you could get TT frets as an option from Warmoth, and they are made from stainless steel now so refretting isn't much of an issue. I have the older non stainless alloy, I forget what it is but it isn't nickel. These days you can order a fretless neck from Warmoth and ship it over. Anders can scallop and do the frets, he can do pretty much anything.

Capos usually work, doesn't work very well on the first fret, but I usually do the 2nd or 7th and haven't had problems. Bending is a breeze.

Overall it is totally worth it, the guitar is in tune all across the neck beyond my ability to hear. Playing other guitars you can hear it out of tune depending on where you play.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 7:12 am
by noddy
might look into it for my strat when i refurbish it.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:18 pm
by Simple Minded
when it comes to blues rock guitar history, I think Culture Club and this song are extremely underrated, almost to the point of being ignored:

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Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:02 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Simple Minded wrote:when it comes to blues rock guitar history, I think Culture Club and this song are extremely underrated, almost to the point of being ignored:

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Blues rock? Nah. Great song, but pure pop.
For most underrated/ignored Blues Rock I propose:
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Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:53 am
by noddy
Simple Minded wrote: I think Culture Club and this song are extremely underrated, almost to the point of being ignored:
long may that continue.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:47 pm
by Simple Minded
noddy wrote:
Simple Minded wrote: I think Culture Club and this song are extremely underrated, almost to the point of being ignored:
long may that continue.
:D there you go Nonc. one man's pop is another man's blues!

When it comes to performing authentic blues, I think only black people and trans people have suffered enough oppression to truly express authentic blues. whites need not apply.

their blues songs should be privilege adjusted like SAT scores.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:59 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Simple Minded wrote:
noddy wrote:
Simple Minded wrote: I think Culture Club and this song are extremely underrated, almost to the point of being ignored:
long may that continue.
:D there you go Nonc. one man's pop is another man's blues!

When it comes to performing authentic blues, I think only black people and trans people have suffered enough oppression to truly express authentic blues. whites need not apply.

their blues songs should be privilege adjusted like SAT scores.
Blue Cheer was an important band. Straight, white guys. One of the commenters posted that they invented heavy metal and they may well be right. Way ahead of their time in 1968 and not even a mention in Wikipedia.

But Mott the Hoople might be a better choice as they are the best '70's blues/rock megaband nobody has ever heard of.

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MtH frontman Ian Hunter's "Cleveland Rocks" was a frickin' anthem for the decade.

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Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:41 am
by Simple Minded
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
But Mott the Hoople might be a better choice as they are the best '70's blues/rock megaband nobody has ever heard of.

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MtH frontman Ian Hunter's "Cleveland Rocks" was a frickin' anthem for the decade.

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I remember them from my high school days!!!! Do I get my Music Sophisticato Merit Badge now?

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:07 am
by noddy
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Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:09 am
by noddy
Simple Minded wrote: Do I get my Music Sophisticato Merit Badge now?
i believe your name has been permentantly expunged from the societies records for crimes against human earholes.

Re: Blues Rock Guitar history

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:16 am
by Simple Minded
noddy wrote:
Simple Minded wrote: Do I get my Music Sophisticato Merit Badge now?
i believe your name has been permentantly expunged from the societies records for crimes against human earholes.
:lol: Obviously, in the musical world, it's a fine line between discernment and racism. time for me to lawyer up.