Australia - Human Rights

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

* government medicare has bi partisan support over here, political suicide to remove it.

This is what you get when you put Ethan Hawke in charge of your country

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

for those that get confused about American culture difference to Australian.

from this blog where the authoress received an e-mail from that land of tyrants, Australia:

This may be as good a time as any to mention that I recently received an email from an Austalian reader who said it was okay if I excerpted parts. So here goes:

For the most part, Australians do not like direct confrontation. Instead, Australians generally just ignore rules which they don’t agree with.

For example, there are currently directives in Victoria to wear masks outdoors and indoors (except inside one’s own house). When Covid was thought to be a real threat last year, I roughly estimated that about 80 percent of people outdoors wore them. Nowadays, I think that only about 20 percent of people we see outdoors wear them. I think less than 10 percent of men wear masks (and those are almost exclusively in the company of women). I cannot recall the last time I saw a man wearing a mask when walking by himself.

Companies are required to enforce Covid location registrations when customers enter stores (i.e., customers must use their phones to register their attendance). The vast, vast majority of people simply wave their phones in the direction of the QR codes and the security guards don’t interfere. The process reminds me of the Soviet cliche that as long as they pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work. In this case, customers pretend to register and the stores can state they have guards in place. The entire process is a Potemkin village (with the active cooperation between customers and stores).

People are allowed outside of their house for up to two hours per day to exercise. In practice, there’s no limit. Unfortunately, golf courses and gyms are closed, but people walk, run or bicycle as much as they’d like. I suspect that the amount of people exercising is higher now than when the restrictions are not in place.

And so on. While I agree with your dismay about Australian restrictions based on reading news reports, in practice the circumstances are quite different. Australians aren’t very good at following rules which they don’t agree with and Covid isn’t any different.

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imagine if the places worst hit, got the most aggressive vaccine campaigns and now have the lowest covid rate and have opened up more.

imagine if the places that didnt have covid problems, didnt get first access to the vaccines and are now only just catching up.

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imagine if alll the conspiracies are hysterical or bored, sheltered middle class people, full of opinions but completely ignorant of anything beyond the new name they came up with for the genitals.

imagine all the people.....

[Doc]

I have no idea what it is you are so excited about or what you are talking about.

yes, flu vaccines are seasonal, that has always been the case, it always will be the case, nobody believes otherwise, nobody suggested otherwise.

so what ?

World wide getting a booster every six months is a practical impossibility. Especially when it is vaccines that have not been properly tested. There is a reason for such tests.

When Authorities repeatedly lie. Tell people they have to give up their freedom because of an "emergency" for the "Common Good". It is time to question authority.

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[NapLajoieonSteroids]

maybe, but dealing with the problems you have in an orderly manner is all we can do,.

Yes, I'm not terribly worried, but I can foresee a freak out on the horizon.

I can't remember if I wrote it on here, but as I've been saying, the world would've actually collapsed if this virus were any more lethal or communicable.

my understanding of the yearly flu booster is that the anglosphere shares samples regularly and keeps northern and southern hemispheres prepared for each other.

We get our data from the Australian experience, and I assume you guys then watch us. So everyone is flying blind.

the economic and social fallout from the countries that got hit hard by covid are the real tidal wave coming over the next few years.
ditto, the inflation caused by the money printing when the spending picks back up again.

Yes

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

imagine all the people.....

Yes, let's address the mess in the room that Lennonism has caused.

[Nonc Hilaire]

imagine all the people.....

Yes, let's address the mess in the room that Lennonism has caused.

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yeh, this is the first time in my life I wouldnt put the one world lennon types into the most damaging idiots in the world catagory.

the sovereign citizen, any form of social good is a communist conspiracy types have taken the lead and are concreting in their positions on full blown psychotic idiocy.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

yeh, this is the first time in my life I wouldnt put the one world lennon types into the most damaging idiots in the world catagory.

the sovereign citizen, any form of social good is a communist conspiracy types have taken the lead and are concreting in their positions on full blown psychotic idiocy.

John Lennon was the ultimate sovereign citizen who thought none of the rules applied to him.

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yeh, this is the first time in my life I wouldnt put the one world lennon types into the most damaging idiots in the world catagory.

the sovereign citizen, any form of social good is a communist conspiracy types have taken the lead and are concreting in their positions on full blown psychotic idiocy.

John Lennon was the ultimate sovereign citizen who thought none of the rules applied to him.

no argument there, a quick read of the comments on that video updates any dislike of that train of thought I already had.

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now, if anyone is actually interested in a real government bureaucratic nightmare of monumental proportions thats causing massive problems.

if one state is in run away covid lockdown, and another state is covid free and has no restrictions, what happens in a border town that has half of the town inside each state.

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what happens is a nightmare of police checks, road blocks and paperwork as shops, schools, hospitals are spread across the border.

[Doc]

now, if anyone is actually interested in a real government bureaucratic nightmare of monumental proportions thats causing massive problems.

if one state is in run away covid lockdown, and another state is covid free and has no restrictions, what happens in a border town that has half of the town inside each state.

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what happens is a nightmare of police checks, road blocks and paperwork as shops, schools, hospitals are spread across the border.

Just look to NYC where Deblasio segregated Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods. Going so far as to close all the parks so the children had no place to go outside.

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[NapLajoieonSteroids]

That's brilliant

[Doc]

Crooked COVID-cops caught conspiring to lay 'trumped-up' charge

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[noddy]

Australia only has one real telco, telstra, which used to be the nationalised one.

Then it got privatised and some smaller ones popped up but they use telstra infrastructure quite a bit, its complicated.

When telstra goes down, which it does regularly, it often takes out the rest.

This guy isnt a Victorian, he is on the opposite side of the country and appears to be telling a story rather than having any insight


The victorians have had some unionist riots over the last few days - the construction workers who didnt get locked down got told they had to not use the shared lunch room anymore but eat outside, plus their union agreed the company could make vaccines compulsory.

So a mix of them and rent a crowd new normal types had some freedom riots.

Fluoro vest lives matter.

Victorian police are notorius corrupt, violent assholes, have been for decades. Their is nothing unusual about them beating up people, its one of the pleasures of living in melbourne

They might have temporarily shut cbd mobile down, i cant find any sources which arent hyperventilators and none of my friends there have mentioned it, nor did they drop offline at this time.

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Their are serious concerns for australias authoritarian future right now but they are all related to 5 eyes internet monitoring and control laws

With the anglosphere all bypassing local privacy laws with shared spying on each other, pressuring all chat channels to give them unencrypted feeds, its a bleak situation, i doubt they would shut down the system that lets them collect evidence.

Our latest laws let them takeover other peoples internet accounts and make fake posts to honey pot accomplices.

This stuff is happening to all of us worldwide, without discussion or meaningful opposition.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

This guy isnt a Victorian, he is on the opposite side of the country and appears to be telling a story rather than having any insight

Aren't you poasting this from a ham radio by this point?

[noddy]

as for compulsory vaccination - im mostly for it, except I dont want the final step of having vaccine passports, which is where I will draw the line.

their is no conspiracy here - our neo liberal government is not trying to bring in a new normal of paying people to stay at home and do nothing, anyone that believes that is seriously on the wrong side of lunatic, its so stupid i cant even work out how to engage it.

they want immigration, tourism, globalism back as fast as they possibly can within the limits of a hospital system that cant handle the load covid causes.

currently, the ICU beds in sydney are mostly filled with unvaccinated, the freedom folks are not doing the proper thing and dying at home by themselves but instead using up the socialist resources when they get sick.

until such time as the unvaccinated stop filling up the hospitals, the government is going to be forced to push vaccination as hard as it can.

every state in australia has agreed to open up and go back to normal when 80% vaccination is achieved, as this statistically should keep the hospitals running at a level of death and ICU beds they can handle.

vaccinated people are not scared of unvaccinated people, they know damn well their is no real moral backbone to this and the moment the unvaccinated get sick, they demand socialism to save them.

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This guy isnt a Victorian, he is on the opposite side of the country and appears to be telling a story rather than having any insight

Aren't you poasting this from a ham radio by this point?

actually, i almost am.

i live so far from burbia now, we dont have proper wired high speed interent, I need to use a microwave link to get basic internet

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

as for compulsory vaccination - im mostly for it, except I dont want the final step of having vaccine passports, which is where I will draw the line.

their is no conspiracy here - our neo liberal government is not trying to bring in a new normal of paying people to stay at home and do nothing, anyone that believes that is seriously on the wrong side of lunatic, its so stupid i cant even work out how to engage it.

they want immigration, tourism, globalism back as fast as they possibly can within the limits of a hospital system that cant handle the load covid causes.

currently, the ICU beds in sydney are mostly filled with unvaccinated, the freedom folks are not doing the proper thing and dying at home by themselves but instead using up the socialist resources when they get sick.

until such time as the unvaccinated stop filling up the hospitals, the government is going to be forced to push vaccination as hard as it can.

every state in australia has agreed to open up and go back to normal when 80% vaccination is achieved, as this statistically should keep the hospitals running at a level of death and ICU beds they can handle.

vaccinated people are not scared of unvaccinated people, they know damn well their is no real moral backbone to this and the moment the unvaccinated get sick, they demand socialism to save them.

This is a lot heavier than my human right to *sh...post*. Was just telling the missus we finally have a truncheon to wield as obnoxiously as possible!

I was told to take these things more seriously, because we have relatives in Melbourne-- last we heard, at least.

My suggestion to abandon them to their lord of the flies scenario wasn't well received.

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This is a lot heavier than my human right to *sh...post*. Was just telling the missus we finally have a truncheon to wield as obnoxiously as possible!

hah its a generic rant, aimed at the world in general.

the media is really shitting me at the moment, i need outlets to vent on it.

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I was told to take these things more seriously, because we have relatives in Melbourne-- last we heard, at least.

My suggestion to abandon them to their lord of the flies scenario wasn't well received.

Melbourne is a funny old place - its the best place in Australia for food and general "city culture" stuff, shows, concerts, clubs and all that.

nearly everyone has a corporate job or government funded job, cashed up and comfortable and relaxed, huge amount of hardcore champagne socialists and green voters.

if you are on the gravy train, its great, if you arent on the gravy train you live in a ghetto of angry druggies, police bashing you, desperately doing wage slave work to keep your head above water to pay for the entitled ones above.

guess who is driving the lockdowns, guess who is angry at them.

I cant really care too much about it, melbourne is its own special little sub bit of australia, more like europe and not like the rest of the country.

my state, and the state my family are in just locked the borders, dont care if the rest of the world burns, and covid never happened for us.

the only folks mad are the ones that like to hit asia or europe for their winter holidays but, meh .

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melbourne without its cafes and clubs and concerts would be one of the most hideous places to live in the world - all the downsides of living in a big city, and none of the upsides.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

This is a lot heavier than my human right to *sh...post*. Was just telling the missus we finally have a truncheon to wield as obnoxiously as possible!

hah its a generic rant, aimed at the world in general.

the media is really shitting me at the moment, i need outlets to vent on it.

My mother is just old enough to recall a truck with a loudspeaker driving through to inform the neighborhood that the polio vaccine was available at a local high school.

I can't say how accurate the memory is; the way she tells it, its very fuzzy to begin with on top of her being very young at the time and not really clued into whatever mass vaccine campaign was going on.

I think the true kernel to it was there being an involved local effort with a lot of intermediaries in play going neighborhood to neighborhood if need be.
The added bonus being that every adult then would've been much more familiar with how devastating these sort of diseases (expanding it beyond polio) could be.

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One of the weaknesses I've seen is that these governments have very little ability to go door-to-door with anything.

To rule is to rule from the television and that's all they know how to do.