Iran

[Miss_Faucie_Fishtits]

The dangerous, disappearing Pomegranates
A steadily declining population could push Iran toward a regional confrontation

The Pomegranates are in the kind of panic about their future that impelled France and Germany toward war respectively in 1914 and 1939. I do not agree with much of Harvard Prof. Graham Allison’s “Thucydides Trap” thesis, which views the 5th-century B.C.E. Spartan-Athenian war as a template for the response of a declining established power to a challenger, but there is an unsettling parallel between ancient Sparta and modern Iran. Sparta already had entered irreversible demographic decline when it warred with Athens, and Iran’s leaders are so possessed by fear of population shrinkage that they arrest academic demographers for publishing the wrong data.

https://asiatimes.com/2021/02/the-dange ... -Pomegranates/

[Typhoon]

The New Arab | Iran nationwide blackouts spark protests

In footage posted to social media, protesters can be heard chanting 'Death to Khamenei' and 'Death to the dictator' into the night.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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[Nonc Hilaire]

HP - please post a text link to youtube along with the tagged version. The tag just shows a blank screen for me.

[noddy]

the Iranian diaspora is an interesting thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_diaspora

more moved to Australia than to the entire of the middle east or asia!

good people, like the middle class turks, they are pretty much 100% integrated.

[Heracleum Persicum]

HP - please post a text link to youtube along with the tagged version. The tag just shows a blank screen for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLeE-jrwPjI


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[Heracleum Persicum]

the Iranian diaspora is an interesting thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_diaspora

more moved to Australia than to the entire of the middle east or asia!

good people, like the middle class turks, they are pretty much 100% integrated.

There are around 5 m Iranians outside Iran

2021 Canada took in 185,000 Iranian immigrants .. they get OK very fast

Canada has legislated to bring in 500,000 immigrants a year .. Canada aiming to be a 100 m population country in a generation

With climate change, warming , more Canadian territory become habitable .. LOL

Where should 500K immigrant a yr come from .. you dont want canada to be Chinese or India or African .. Europeans themselves need 1 m immigrant a yeas at least

So , iranian immigrants are very much in demand

Speaker, head , of Norvegia Parlament , # 2 after King , is Iranian immigrant

https://norwaytoday.info/news/masud-gha ... g-and-nrk/


many German MP are Iranians

Mayer of Frankfurt iranian lady

https://features.kodoom.com/en/iranian- ... rt/v/7342/

many head of faculty of top top US universities are Iranians .. many top top doctors in the world are Iranians .. many top top scientist Iranians


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Iranians


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[noddy]

right.

and the real linkage between countries isnt the bullshit government or media - its the diaspora.

ive spent much of my life working for Chinese, never mattered what the government or the media said, it was Chinese businessmen in Australia investing in projects I worked on and we worked together fine.

so, where is the Iranian diaspora, where are the strong linkages to the world forming ?

its not Asia, its not Russia

[Heracleum Persicum]

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noddy

Look at this girl

She is the daughter of head of Iranian secret service (Shah time) , top top CIA of Iran

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardis_Sabeti

https://oeb.harvard.edu/people/pardis-sabeti

She is one of the top top American scientist , head of jazz band , wonderful girls

acclaimed Research Science Institute at MIT

https://www.google.ca/search?q=pardis+s ... client=img

Look at her Career and research

[Heracleum Persicum]

right.

and the real linkage between countries isnt the bullshit government or media - its the diaspora.

ive spent much of my life working for Chinese, never mattered what the government or the media said, it was Chinese businessmen in Australia investing in projects I worked on and we worked together fine.

so, where is the Iranian diaspora, where are the strong linkages to the world forming ?

its not Asia, its not Russia

Iranians , , consider themselves as Europeans , we have deep cultural relation with Europe

My grand father, grand grand father , uncles all studied in germany , Berlin

Iranians very easily integrate into Western civilization


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostafa_Ronaghi


He was Chief technology officer of Illumina .. Illumina makes the machines for DNA sequencing that made all this new vaccines by Pfizer and Moderna possible

https://www.illumina.com/

[Heracleum Persicum]

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https://youtu.be/7YfkAYW-wm4?t=2

[Heracleum Persicum]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpvYBt4dIqM


OK , folks , thank you , appreciate

Was scared she would forget mentioning Iran .. she name everybody else (first)

[Doc]

Iran may have a population of ~ 85 million, but is a backwards theocracy stuck in the past.

https://hetg.physics.harvard.edu/news/p ... c-american


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7eT06-xH0&t=1116s


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumrun_Vafa

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Just another one of many fortunate immigrants who prospered in the West due to the opportunities not available back in their 3rd world place of birth.

Now, further irrelevant posts about Persia in the Ukraine thread will be summarily deleted.

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=583&start=1100#p160159

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See ! See ! Good Iran mad mullahs say to Iran people when out looking for food.
Making protest crude not black gold
mad mullahs say "Amir move away from here.
Said Californication is the place you ought to be
Beverly, Hills that is: Woke movie stars, No bad virgin iran girls to marry before executing them.
So they loaded up the truck and they moved to Beverly

The Beverly Iranbillies

No Moscow Iranbillies
No Beijing Iranbillies.

Just Beverly Iranbillies.

Doc, not a single "Muslim" Iranian in Beverly Hills .. not a single one

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No Iranbillies in Beverly!!! AZ too funny !!!!

But Azari make John MacCain very angry. Make rock and roll in grave

John McCain sing

"Bomb bomb bomb Bomb LA Bomb Bomb bomb LA.
Bomb LA A A A
Thats what I say ay ay
Bomb LA A A A"



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... os_Angeles

History of Iranian Americans in Los Angeles

Los Angeles (and Southern California in general) is home to a large Iranian-American community. Los Angeles is also notable for its very large Iranian Jewish communities in Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Encino, and Calabasas. The Iranian population in Los Angeles is diverse with many ethnic subgroups like Iranians of Jewish descent and Iranian Armenians. With population estimates of 700,000, Southern California boasts the largest concentration of Iranians in the world, outside of Iran.[1][2] The Iranian diaspora in Los Angeles includes those who fled the 1979 Islamic revolution, the increased immigration after the 2009 Green Movement, people who immigrated to the United States by winning Diversity Visa Program and those who were born in the U.S.[3] Southern California is also distinct from Northern California with its larger presence of Armenian Iranians and Iranian Jews and Iranian Muslim. Tehrangeles is the other famous name among Iranian people in Iran and even in the Los Angeles because of the Iranian population in Los Angeles area.

OIC Iran Jus not real Iranian people. My Bad AZ !!

No joke for AZ Only nightmare that makes Good mad mullahs angry with AZ.

But no worries I hear Evin prison very nice this time of year !!

Maybe Az can improve life by studying in Evin Prison !! Then go to American and accomplish much !!!

[Heracleum Persicum]

https://hetg.physics.harvard.edu/news/p ... c-american


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7eT06-xH0&t=1116s


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumrun_Vafa

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Just another one of many fortunate immigrants who prospered in the West due to the opportunities not available back in their 3rd world place of birth.

Now, further irrelevant posts about Persia in the Ukraine thread will be summarily deleted.

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=583&start=1100#p160159

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See ! See ! Good Iran mad mullahs say to Iran people when out looking for food.
Making protest crude not black gold
mad mullahs say "Amir move away from here.
Said Californication is the place you ought to be
Beverly, Hills that is: Woke movie stars, No bad virgin iran girls to marry before executing them.
So they loaded up the truck and they moved to Beverly

The Beverly Iranbillies

No Moscow Iranbillies
No Beijing Iranbillies.

Just Beverly Iranbillies.

Doc, not a single "Muslim" Iranian in Beverly Hills .. not a single one

.

No Iranbillies in Beverly!!! AZ too funny !!!!

But Azari make John MacCain very angry. Make rock and roll in grave

John McCain sing

"Bomb bomb bomb Bomb LA Bomb Bomb bomb LA.
Bomb LA A A A
Thats what I say ay ay
Bomb LA A A A"



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... os_Angeles

History of Iranian Americans in Los Angeles

Los Angeles (and Southern California in general) is home to a large Iranian-American community. Los Angeles is also notable for its very large Iranian Jewish communities in Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Encino, and Calabasas. The Iranian population in Los Angeles is diverse with many ethnic subgroups like Iranians of Jewish descent and Iranian Armenians. With population estimates of 700,000, Southern California boasts the largest concentration of Iranians in the world, outside of Iran.[1][2] The Iranian diaspora in Los Angeles includes those who fled the 1979 Islamic revolution, the increased immigration after the 2009 Green Movement, people who immigrated to the United States by winning Diversity Visa Program and those who were born in the U.S.[3] Southern California is also distinct from Northern California with its larger presence of Armenian Iranians and Iranian Jews and Iranian Muslim. Tehrangeles is the other famous name among Iranian people in Iran and even in the Los Angeles because of the Iranian population in Los Angeles area.

Yes, Many Iranians in Beverly Hills .. many .. even Beverly Hills Mayor Iranian


http://www.payvand.com/news/07/mar/1332.html


But

Not a single one Muslim .. there no Good Iran mad mullahs in Beverly Hills

There no Muslim Iranian in Beverly Hills

Pls post if you find one

There NON

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[noddy]

how are the Iranians doing in China - getting lots of jobs in important industries are they ?

wonder why not.

[Doc]

Just another one of many fortunate immigrants who prospered in the West due to the opportunities not available back in their 3rd world place of birth.

Now, further irrelevant posts about Persia in the Ukraine thread will be summarily deleted.

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=583&start=1100#p160159

.

See ! See ! Good Iran mad mullahs say to Iran people when out looking for food.
Making protest crude not black gold
mad mullahs say "Amir move away from here.
Said Californication is the place you ought to be
Beverly, Hills that is: Woke movie stars, No bad virgin iran girls to marry before executing them.
So they loaded up the truck and they moved to Beverly

The Beverly Iranbillies

No Moscow Iranbillies
No Beijing Iranbillies.

Just Beverly Iranbillies.

Doc, not a single "Muslim" Iranian in Beverly Hills .. not a single one

.

No Iranbillies in Beverly!!! AZ too funny !!!!

But Azari make John MacCain very angry. Make rock and roll in grave

John McCain sing

"Bomb bomb bomb Bomb LA Bomb Bomb bomb LA.
Bomb LA A A A
Thats what I say ay ay
Bomb LA A A A"



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... os_Angeles

History of Iranian Americans in Los Angeles

Los Angeles (and Southern California in general) is home to a large Iranian-American community. Los Angeles is also notable for its very large Iranian Jewish communities in Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Encino, and Calabasas. The Iranian population in Los Angeles is diverse with many ethnic subgroups like Iranians of Jewish descent and Iranian Armenians. With population estimates of 700,000, Southern California boasts the largest concentration of Iranians in the world, outside of Iran.[1][2] The Iranian diaspora in Los Angeles includes those who fled the 1979 Islamic revolution, the increased immigration after the 2009 Green Movement, people who immigrated to the United States by winning Diversity Visa Program and those who were born in the U.S.[3] Southern California is also distinct from Northern California with its larger presence of Armenian Iranians and Iranian Jews and Iranian Muslim. Tehrangeles is the other famous name among Iranian people in Iran and even in the Los Angeles because of the Iranian population in Los Angeles area.

Yes, Many Iranians in Beverly Hills .. many .. even Beverly Hills Mayor Iranian


http://www.payvand.com/news/07/mar/1332.html


But

Not a single one Muslim .. there no Good Iran mad mullahs in Beverly Hills

There no Muslim Iranian in Beverly Hills

Pls post if you find one

There NON

.

Of course Good mad mullahs no in Beverly Hills !! Not with so many JUs there. mad mullahs in Beverly hills would be bad mad mullahs !!

[Heracleum Persicum]

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=583&start=1100#p160159

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See ! See ! Good Iran mad mullahs say to Iran people when out looking for food.
Making protest crude not black gold
mad mullahs say "Amir move away from here.
Said Californication is the place you ought to be
Beverly, Hills that is: Woke movie stars, No bad virgin iran girls to marry before executing them.
So they loaded up the truck and they moved to Beverly

The Beverly Iranbillies

No Moscow Iranbillies
No Beijing Iranbillies.

Just Beverly Iranbillies.

Doc, not a single "Muslim" Iranian in Beverly Hills .. not a single one

.

No Iranbillies in Beverly!!! AZ too funny !!!!

But Azari make John MacCain very angry. Make rock and roll in grave

John McCain sing

"Bomb bomb bomb Bomb LA Bomb Bomb bomb LA.
Bomb LA A A A
Thats what I say ay ay
Bomb LA A A A"



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... os_Angeles

History of Iranian Americans in Los Angeles

Los Angeles (and Southern California in general) is home to a large Iranian-American community. Los Angeles is also notable for its very large Iranian Jewish communities in Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Encino, and Calabasas. The Iranian population in Los Angeles is diverse with many ethnic subgroups like Iranians of Jewish descent and Iranian Armenians. With population estimates of 700,000, Southern California boasts the largest concentration of Iranians in the world, outside of Iran.[1][2] The Iranian diaspora in Los Angeles includes those who fled the 1979 Islamic revolution, the increased immigration after the 2009 Green Movement, people who immigrated to the United States by winning Diversity Visa Program and those who were born in the U.S.[3] Southern California is also distinct from Northern California with its larger presence of Armenian Iranians and Iranian Jews and Iranian Muslim. Tehrangeles is the other famous name among Iranian people in Iran and even in the Los Angeles because of the Iranian population in Los Angeles area.

Yes, Many Iranians in Beverly Hills .. many .. even Beverly Hills Mayor Iranian


http://www.payvand.com/news/07/mar/1332.html


But

Not a single one Muslim .. there no Good Iran mad mullahs in Beverly Hills

There no Muslim Iranian in Beverly Hills

Pls post if you find one

There NON

.

Of course Good mad mullahs no in Beverly Hills !! Not with so many JUs there. mad mullahs in Beverly hills would be bad mad mullahs !!


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Yeeees , you got it

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[Heracleum Persicum]

how are the Iranians doing in China - getting lots of jobs in important industries are they ?

wonder why not.

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All Iranians in China are "students" .. in China for training

China is now building up Iranians industrial base, for that they train Iranian specialist and cader.

Iranian business will now move to Russia, excellent opportunities

Russia now will overrun by China, Iranian, Indian entrepreneurs

[noddy]

sounds likely.

Russia is famously open minded to foreigners.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... revolution


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[Heracleum Persicum]

A triple.

A happy Passover to all who celebrate.

A happy Easter to all who celebrate.

A happy Ramadan to all who celebrate.

What about the Atheist

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Atheists follow Christmas and Easter as much as many christians, the feeling guilty about not going to the church is removed - the rest is all the same - a few days of drinking and feasting with friends and family and a break from work.

it is just winter and spring festival times - goes back far longer than any of the religions, every human owns those dates.

except us southern hemisphere folks - it becomes summer and autumn festivals and all the metaphors and imagery are a bit screwed up.

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Only thing worth celebrating is when nature "renews itself" in 1st of spring

All the other festivities started with "man made" myths that (now) have morphed to business, they now "marketing tools" without any spirituality and dept .. especially in "liberal cultures"

When I was Student, I went to Russian Orthodox church in Geneva when they were celebrating, to watch and listen to very nice Russian songs with deep voice.
Although non believer, felt Goosebumps .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Church,_Geneva



Russian Orthodox Male Choir of Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv0nuACLqJE

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Old Slavic Orthodox Chant

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Russian orthodox chant Chesnokov 'We Praise Thee'

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The Abrahamic festivities , Christian new year, Jewish , Muslim Ramadan, they lack now of any spirituality, have become only marketing tool for business. Not worth celebrating

Nature renews itself 1st Sprint .. how one celebrates Nature ?

Well, you guessed it

Nowruz marks the beginning of spring in the Northern Hemisphere. The moment at which the Sun crosses the celestial equator and equalizes night and day is calculated exactly every year, and families traditionally gather together to observe the rituals.

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[noddy]

Ive never seen anyone go all cultural supremcist over holiday dates before, thats pretty cool.

Ill go one better - 4 season people are wrong and the Nyoongar Aboriginals had the correct idea by making it 6 seasons.

summer -> early autumn -> late autumn -> winter -> early spring -> late spring

All had seperate names, for different events that happened, which is how we do it aswell, but we cludge the early/late onto spring and autumn to make the 4 season concept fit.

The Abrahamic festivities , Christian new year, Jewish , Muslim Ramadan, they lack now of any spirituality, have become only marketing tool for business. Not worth celebrating

a couple of days off work to catchup with friends and family is all the spirituality required, everything else is just oppurtunists.

[Typhoon]

Ive never seen anyone go all cultural supremcist over holiday dates before, thats pretty cool.

I suppose that's the compulsive nature of a philia combined with a monomania.
Tedious to deal with if one is a forum mod.

Also, far removed from the spirit of any season.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Ive never seen anyone go all cultural supremcist over holiday dates before, thats pretty cool.

I suppose that's the compulsive nature of a philia combined with a monomania.
Tedious to deal with if one is a forum mod.

Also, far removed from the spirit of any season.

"compulsive nature of a philia combined with a monomania."


Some might consider my above post

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18&start=500#p160586

as disrespectful to occasion

I understand, but it not meant as such

But

I think, especially "these occasions" should be used to reflect on things

Looking back, did celebrating invented (bad copies from Persian Mithraism) "Abrahamic" myths bring peace, tranquility, happiness to humanity ?

For sure not, in contrary, it was used for human misery, still at it

So, why continue same ?

Is it not time to step back and reboot and see what is and went wrong ?

Doing this one would find that the only thing worth celebrating is the "Nature renewing itself" .. there is a deep meaning in that


Albert Camus, French philosopher :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Camus

He wrote, he spent his whole life to find what the essence of life is

He said he concluded that "essence of life" was "Renewal of life" by giving life to next generation.

Salmon hatch in canadian fresh water falls, enter salty pacific, swim to Russian Kamchatka , swim back to same Canadian fresh water falls they hatched, spawn, and die .. that is the essence of Salmon life

For Nature, there no difference between humans and Salmon .. same philosophie

In that sense, in this special occasion, one should step back and "reflect"

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[Heracleum Persicum]

The Abrahamic festivities , Christian new year, Jewish , Muslim Ramadan, they lack now of any spirituality, have become only marketing tool for business. Not worth celebrating

a couple of days off work to catchup with friends and family is all the spirituality required, everything else is just oppurtunists.

noddy, West, especially America and Australia maybe Canada, have become an "Andy Warhol" culture .. "Burger with Ketchup on canvas" and it's worth $ 300 million .. there no depth of any kind in that

Considering "free time with friends and family" as essence of celebrating Abrahamic (even fake) myths misunderstand the whole thing
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