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Colonel MacGregor's expertise started and ended at the battalion level. Everything else is being a professional gadfly.

He was the guy that worked with the Bush administration to undercut higher ranking officers apprehensive about the 2nd gulf war.

"We can invade and occupy Iraq with 50,000 troops" MacGregor. That's our guy.

Take off the military uniform and you're looking at John Bolton, who for some mysterious reason gets no love on this forum. :)

A most impressive thing is that he's prognosticated the end of the Russia-Ukraine war so many times, he holds the record for predicting the end of wars. :)
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:17 am Colonel MacGregor's expertise started and ended at the battalion level. Everything else is being a professional gadfly.

He was the guy that worked with the Bush administration to undercut higher ranking officers apprehensive about the 2nd gulf war.

"We can invade and occupy Iraq with 50,000 troops" MacGregor. That's our guy.

Take off the military uniform and you're looking at John Bolton, who for some mysterious reason gets no love on this forum. :)

A most impressive thing is that he's prognosticated the end of the Russia-Ukraine war so many times, he holds the record for predicting the end of wars. :)


All true

but

Seems he learned his lesson

No shame being once wrong, shame being twice wrong

Same goes with Trump

Am sure if and when Trump president, he looking at Iran and Israel, he seeing things pretty much all "upside down", he will bend to mad mullahs and throw BiBi to the dogs .. am sure of that .. he knows alternative would be "Afghanistan - II" in 20 yrs after poring billions in bottomless pit.

Biden done.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:48 am
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:17 am Colonel MacGregor's expertise started and ended at the battalion level. Everything else is being a professional gadfly.

He was the guy that worked with the Bush administration to undercut higher ranking officers apprehensive about the 2nd gulf war.

"We can invade and occupy Iraq with 50,000 troops" MacGregor. That's our guy.

Take off the military uniform and you're looking at John Bolton, who for some mysterious reason gets no love on this forum. :)

A most impressive thing is that he's prognosticated the end of the Russia-Ukraine war so many times, he holds the record for predicting the end of wars. :)


All true

but

Seems he learned his lesson

No shame being once wrong, shame being twice wrong

Same goes with Trump

Am sure if and when Trump president, he looking at Iran and Israel, he seeing things pretty much all "upside down", he will bend to mad mullahs and throw BiBi to the dogs .. am sure of that .. he knows alternative would be "Afghanistan - II" in 20 yrs after poring billions in bottomless pit.

Biden done.
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Maybe he learned his lesson. Maybe. But 2 decades of being one character just doesn't wash away in one laundry cycle. One thing holds true over the last 2 decades, the US military brass is not good and needs to demonstrate it can be trusted before any trust in put in any of these guys.

MacGregor gained fame for his first book, which was dead on a tactics level. He was also probably right that creative guys were being sluiced out by the upper bureaucracy. But then the subsequent years proved that they were right not to promote him up the chain.

And like all the other fish in that pond, he went through the same lifecycle- military fame->consulting->punditry.

All smells like bad fish to me; though I'd be glad to be shown otherwise.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:48 am
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:17 am Colonel MacGregor's expertise started and ended at the battalion level. Everything else is being a professional gadfly.

He was the guy that worked with the Bush administration to undercut higher ranking officers apprehensive about the 2nd gulf war.

"We can invade and occupy Iraq with 50,000 troops" MacGregor. That's our guy.

Take off the military uniform and you're looking at John Bolton, who for some mysterious reason gets no love on this forum. :)

A most impressive thing is that he's prognosticated the end of the Russia-Ukraine war so many times, he holds the record for predicting the end of wars. :)


All true

but

Seems he learned his lesson

No shame being once wrong, shame being twice wrong

Same goes with Trump

Am sure if and when Trump president, he looking at Iran and Israel, he seeing things pretty much all "upside down", he will bend to mad mullahs and throw BiBi to the dogs .. am sure of that .. he knows alternative would be "Afghanistan - II" in 20 yrs after poring billions in bottomless pit.

Biden done.
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You may very well be right about BiBi.

Trump isn't happy that Netanyahu very publicly abandoned him during the 2020 election. So there is something personal there at this point; whereas with the mad mullahs it's "nothing personal; business is business- and what's today's business."
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MacGregor was 100% correct about the NATO loss of the Ukraine.

I don’t know how correct he will be about Putin’s clean-up operations, but he has earned the right to be in the conversation.
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:56 am
Heracleum Persicum wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:48 am
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:17 am Colonel MacGregor's expertise started and ended at the battalion level. Everything else is being a professional gadfly.

He was the guy that worked with the Bush administration to undercut higher ranking officers apprehensive about the 2nd gulf war.

"We can invade and occupy Iraq with 50,000 troops" MacGregor. That's our guy.

Take off the military uniform and you're looking at John Bolton, who for some mysterious reason gets no love on this forum. :)

A most impressive thing is that he's prognosticated the end of the Russia-Ukraine war so many times, he holds the record for predicting the end of wars. :)


All true

but

Seems he learned his lesson

No shame being once wrong, shame being twice wrong

Same goes with Trump

Am sure if and when Trump president, he looking at Iran and Israel, he seeing things pretty much all "upside down", he will bend to mad mullahs and throw BiBi to the dogs .. am sure of that .. he knows alternative would be "Afghanistan - II" in 20 yrs after poring billions in bottomless pit.

Biden done.
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Maybe he learned his lesson. Maybe. But 2 decades of being one character just doesn't wash away in one laundry cycle. One thing holds true over the last 2 decades, the US military brass is not good and needs to demonstrate it can be trusted before any trust in put in any of these guys.

MacGregor gained fame for his first book, which was dead on a tactics level. He was also probably right that creative guys were being sluiced out by the upper bureaucracy. But then the subsequent years proved that they were right not to promote him up the chain.

And like all the other fish in that pond, he went through the same lifecycle- military fame->consulting->punditry.

All smells like bad fish to me; though I'd be glad to be shown otherwise.


US military did perfect job, they never lost a battle post WW2 .. America lost all wars since WW2 not because of military, the wars were all lost politically .. Notion wars can be won by military means naive.

Notion, in WW2, Germany and Japan were defeated militarily, deceiving .. Germany and Japan did get (were guaranteed) what they were demanding before the war and for what they started the war .. Germany and Japan wanted free access to resources and free market for their products, Americans and Brits said NO .. after the war, Germany and Japan were guaranteed free access to world resources and free world market for their products .. that is why Germany and Japan now are "peaceful" nations, there ZERO doubt should the "free access to resources and free market" be no more the case, Germany and Japan "and now China" would look at wars. Germany already, openly, saying this "to Russia" ..

US politicians are not at par with old world.

NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:58 am
You may very well be right about BiBi.

Trump isn't happy that Netanyahu very publicly abandoned him during the 2020 election. So there is something personal there at this point; whereas with the mad mullahs it's "nothing personal; business is business- and what's today's business."

Yes, there a uTube clip Trump saying Natanyahu double crossed him

Trump a top top smart businessman, business is all about reward/risk, nothing personal .. Natanyahu made Israel a "liability" for US, now cost of siding with Israel becoming "unbearable" for US with no "upside" at all (that Holocaust credit already over spent manyfold) .. Trump's issue not BiBi, but what's the plan for Israel .. Businessman Trump will think what's in it for US to hold to Israel and will see the cost too high and no reward.



Re mad mullahs, things evolved entirely since Trump left office .. Trump now looking at a "New Persia" AND at new geopolitical realities, the risk/reward algorithm totally changed ..

IMVHO, if American, Western goal is "check" China, key for that is on whose team Iran is ? Iran is key in chessboard now West playing

Iran not same Iran when Trump left .. neither world same world

Trump best man to handle the new situation, he "independent" from Military complex, from Jewish Lobby, etc .. AND .. American street is with him

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https://scholar.google.com/citations?us ... AAAJ&hl=en

European Society for Paediatric Endocrinology (ESPE) has selected Iranian doctor Maryam Razzaghi Azar as the world's best pediatric endocrinologist out of the selected 1200 doctors.
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what kind of barbarians go to other countries to teach students to hate and kill their classmates.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68016330
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noddy wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:50 pm what kind of barbarians go to other countries to teach students to hate and kill their classmates.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68016330



Interesting, noddy, you decided not to congratulate for " European Society for Paediatric Endocrinology (ESPE) has selected Iranian doctor Maryam Razzaghi Azar as the world's best pediatric endocrinologist out of the selected 1200 doctors. " but fell into BBC sh*t-mining rubbish.

But

You right, noddy , they are barbarians

But

Chanting dime a dozen , how many Israeli or Jews these barbarians have killed ?

Non

but

How many Iranian scientist and officers, and Ghassem Soleimani have Zionist assassinated ? and they proudly and provocatively say so, wanting to agitate mad mullahs to hit back, to push our beloved U.S. of A over another cliff.

mad mullahs, so far, wisely, holding back ..
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sorry, congratulations on being born in the same country as a smart chick.

I always knew you had something going for you.
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noddy wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:27 am
sorry, congratulations on being born in the same country as a smart chick.

I always knew you had something going for you.

noddy, Professor Maryam Razzaghi Azar, born 1946 in Tehran, could be your grand mother's age, no need to be "disrespectful"

She did all her medical studies in Iran and now # 1 in the world's for pediatric endocrinologist.

Dont know whether you have children, if you have, good to know who the best if you need a top pediatric endocrinologist. :)
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:59 am
Chanting dime a dozen , how many Israeli or Jews these barbarians have killed ?

Non

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same as in Australia - Iranian agents bashing and capturing anyone critical of the Iranian empire.

blink twice if you are safe.
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twitter is aflame with all the rumours of escalation between Iran and the US.

good to see those missles cant quite hit the west!
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noddy wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:19 am twitter is aflame with all the rumours of escalation between Iran and the US.

good to see those missiles cant quite hit the west!


YES , all uTube full off Attack Iran, Attack Iran



1983 Beirut barracks bombings


Early on a Sunday morning, October 23, 1983, two truck bombs struck buildings in Beirut, Lebanon, housing American and French service members of the Multinational Force in Lebanon (MNF), a military peacekeeping operation during the Lebanese Civil War. The attack killed 307 people: 241 U.S. and 58 French military personnel, six civilians, and two attackers.

The first suicide bomber detonated a truck bomb at the building serving as a barracks for the 1st Battalion 8th Marines (Battalion Landing Team – BLT 1/8) of the 2nd Marine Division, killing 220 marines, 18 sailors and three soldiers


What did Ronald Reagan do ?

Shot a few salvos into mountains, packed and left .. wise decision




Now


Pro Israel NeoCons agitating Biden to get involved with mad mullahs, would lead to disaster for West

This political to weaken Biden for the presidential election .. has ZERO military value.

Biden will not touch Iran , Biden said Iran not involved in this.

West, Americans know the truth what is going on in Middle East, they know Arabs are revolting, anti Colonial .. any military action will lead to worst situation, West can see this now in Yemen.

Best for America (and Europe) is declare victory and leave.

All NeoCons want is Dems to lose next election, even if US falls over the cliff.

But, Biden knows better, he the most experienced American politician alive right now.
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The New York Times
What Iran Really Wants


Since the 1979 takeover of Iran by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the country's Islamic revolutionary government has had one overriding ambition :

to be the lead player shaping the future of the Middle East.

Seen another way, it wants Israel weaker and the United States gone from the region after decades of primacy.



The Intercept
HOW THE NEW YORK TIMES IS MAKING WAR WITH IRAN MORE LIKELY


The newspaper of record and Washington think tanks are inhibiting the public from understanding Iran's perspective in regional conflicts.
Excellent read
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'U.S. Will Fall Into...':
China Passes 'Iran's Message';
Warns Against Jordan Attack Retaliation


China has now issued a warning against a retaliatory strike.

Cautioning the U.S., Beijing said that Washington's action could push it into a vicious cycle.

China also mentioned that Iran has clearly stated that it had nothing to do with the attack
and that any U.S. action against Tehran could be dangerous.

China's warning comes amid reports of a U.S. mulling covert operation against Iran ..

Am 100 % sure US will do nothing even with an resemblance of touching Iran ..
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:54 pm
Am 100 % sure US will do nothing even with an resemblance of touching Iran ..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW7ld-6nxQE

U.S. Dumps Pledge To Punish Iran ?

Biden Says 'Not Looking For Wider War' Days After Revenge Promise

Told you

Xi talked to Biden .. he told Biden, if you hit mad mullahs, don count on us, you will be on your own.
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The American Conservative
Tucker Carlson called agitators for a large military strike on Iran
“totally dishonest.”



“Target Tehran,” Senator John Cornyn tweeted Sunday after news broke that three U.S. service members had died in a drone attack on a U.S. outpost in Jordan. Was this “a call to bomb Iran?” Twitter users wondered. Cornyn’s answer was “No.” In effect, Cornyn’s “no” basically “yes,” however, given the Texas Senator specified the targets should be “IRGC and Quds Force terrorist facilitators.”

Senator Lindsey Graham was not interested in Cornyn’s supposed distinctions. “Hit Iran now,” the South Carolina Senator tweeted in a thread. “Hit them hard.”

“Target Tehran,” Senator John Cornyn tweeted Sunday after news broke that three U.S. service members had died in a drone attack on a U.S. outpost in Jordan. Was this “a call to bomb Iran?” Twitter users wondered. Cornyn’s answer was “No.” In effect, Cornyn’s “no” basically “yes,” however, given the Texas Senator specified the targets should be “IRGC and Quds Force terrorist facilitators.”


Tucker Carlson had just two words for Cornyn and Graham: “F-cking lunatics.” He did not elaborate.

War with Iran means destruction of what is still left of Western military (and maybe economical) potential to confront challenges ahead

Looking at the big picture and longterm, rather West should start "appeasing" Iran. US elite, Biden now, am sure Trump too by now, doing that already.

POTUS Trump would not be same POTUS Trump used 2B.
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The other day, Iranian president said that in the past West always talked down to Iran, West always said " all options are on the table, including military option " .. now, he said, West dropped that, and repeat a few times a day "We don't want war with Iran" .. there a fundamental change Western looking @ mad mullahs :lol:

For many reasons

BiBi too, every other day wanted to bomb Iran :lol: , now he could be declared war criminal, Palestinians now preparing to take it to "International Criminal Court"

Crazy .. world totally changed since Ukraine fiasco.
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Times radio


Dr. Gerges is currently a professor of Middle East Politics and International Relations at the London School of Economics and Political Science

The "Background" .. excellent to watch to know what's going on, from an expert


The interview says :

Iran does not want to push US out of Middle East violently (by military means) .. Iran wants to make US stay more and more "expensive" until not paying off. Meaning mad mullahs are against military attack on Americans

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https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/461656 ... mingly-low

poor old Iran, going to be empty soon.

maybe they can import some bangladeshi's or something, replace the sterile population with a virile people.
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noddy wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:49 am https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/461656 ... mingly-low

poor old Iran, going to be empty soon.

maybe they can import some bangladeshi's or something, replace the sterile population with a virile people.

Yes, Iran too struggling with low birth rate

Iran now integrating Afghanistan into "Greater Iran" (Afghans are Aryian), first step for more to come .. plan is "Greater Iran" with population over 350 million

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My 2 cents about US bombing Arabs :



This a big "strategic" mistake .. Arab mass now looking at this as "Colonial Powers" bombing rising Arab nations, when at the same time arming Zionist.

Arab Western Cronies now in defence against mad mullahs arguing to "Arab Mass" that West is bombing you to prevent Arabs to rise. Arab Mass looking at Iran overthrowing Western crony Shah and now Iran a real regional power and say why not Arabs ?


All the rubbish of "Iran proxy" openly insult to Arab mass stipulating Arabs are nobody and Iranians are the one telling them what to do.

Iran backs and arms the Arab rising up .. but the decision and footwork must be done by Arabs themselves .. that is what the mad mullahs say to Arab mass.

Arab Mass were confused by Sheikhs, now things becoming clear to them.

mad mullahs objective is to ferment unified Arab uprising against West, which would lead to fall of Sheikhs .. US bombing the Arabs helping mad mullahs make their case to Arabs mass.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:47 pm plan is "Greater Iran"
The plan is Imperialism.
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NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:16 am
Heracleum Persicum wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:47 pm plan is "Greater Iran"
The plan is Imperialism.


"Greater Iran" is a "Cultural Entity", like "European Union"

In "New World Order" the "Grouping" will be along "cultural borders" .. like "European Culture" , or "Arab culture".

West has this already long ago, the "Five Eyes" .. Anglosphere intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States .. Europe too in form of European Union.

"Greater Iran" is at least 5000 yrs old civilization with common culture, history, language, world view etc etc.

Imperialism is a Western "White Man" invention based on plunder and Slavery (Free labour), that is why "White Man" rule did not last even 500 yrs and now ending in Total Chaos.
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