Re: Iran
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:56 pm
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Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:56 pm Iranian DC spy connection
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The migration rate from Iran to OECD countries rose 141% between 2020 and 2021
Queue "mad mullahs laughing".Iranian musicians Negar and Amir are facing the biggest dilemma of their decade-long marriage: whether or not to bow to political and economic pressures and leave their home country after finally securing Canadian residency visas.
“There’s no hope for the future, and no trust in a government that has failed to do enough for its people,” said Negar, 35, a professional violinist and music teacher, who spoke on the condition that her full name was not used. “Runaway inflation is intolerable. Our students cannot afford to take lessons and we cannot afford to rent performance spaces.”
Negar and her 38-year-old husband are not alone in considering a move. Pointing to a steep rise in applications by Iranians for asylum or work and student visas overseas in recent years, the Tehran-based Iran Migration Observatory (IMO) has said Iran is going through a phase of “uncontrolled mass emigration”.
The country experienced the world’s fastest growth in the migration rate to wealthy OECD countries between 2020 and 2021, according to OECD data. Numbers rose from about 48,000 in 2020 to 115,000 the following year — an increase of 141 per cent — it said.
According to an IMO analysis of data from the UNHCR, the UN’s refugee agency, the number of new asylum applications made globally by Iranians in 2022 rose 44 per cent compared with the previous year.
Meanwhile, the number of Iranians studying abroad has risen for eight consecutive years, from 49,000 in 2013 to 70,000 in 2021, according to the IMO.
Iran is losing 3,000 nurses a year to emigration.
The driving forces are economic and political, say analysts. Iran’s inflation rate has been above 40 per cent for the past four years as the economy is hit by punishing US-led sanctions imposed over Tehran’s nuclear programme.
Meanwhile, the authorities have mounted a heavy crackdown on dissent in response to mass protests that followed the death last year of Mahsa Amini in police custody after her arrest for allegedly breaching hijab rules. Continued geopolitical tensions between Tehran and its rivals, and fears that Iran — which supports anti-Israel and anti-US groups in the region — could be drawn into a broader conflict should the war in Gaza escalate, are also factors.
“The war in Gaza isn’t very far from us,” Negar said. “The sabre-rattling by Israel and the Iranian opposition overseas . . . really freak people out.”
Iranian migrants have traditionally headed for the US, Australia, Canada and Europe. But continued development across the Gulf makes Arab states such as the UAE, Qatar and Oman attractive for those seeking work, and Turkey has also become a favoured destination in recent years, according to the IMO.
Those leaving Iran include professional athletes, artists, skilled workers and technicians from the affluent elite, as well as large numbers of poorer Iranians who often attempt perilous journeys to reach western countries.
Between the start of 2018 and March 2023, Iranian nationals formed the largest group reaching the UK after crossing the Channel from mainland Europe in small boats operated by people-smugglers. According to Oxford University’s Migration Observatory, 18,000 made the crossing — 21 per cent of the total.
Migration among health workers has caused particular concern. Mohammad Sharifi-Moqaddam, secretary-general of Tehran-based NGO the Nurses House, said the number of nurses leaving the country each year had reached 3,000, with the sector now short of 100,000.
“They’re moving to countries such as Germany where they can easily earn €2,500 a month instead of €200 here,” he said earlier this month.
Over the past two years, almost 10,000 doctors had applied for the good-standing certificates that destination countries require from foreign clinicians, according to Hossein-Ali Shahriari, head of the Iranian parliament’s health commission.
Mahsa, 52, a dentist with two decades of experience, who asked that her full name was not used, has been trying to move to Australia, Canada, France or Turkey to give her daughter, a doctor, a more promising future.
“At my age, I may not be able to practice dentistry in another country, but I know my 26-year-old daughter would have no significant income and future here,” she said. “I am also worried about the possibility of war. We’ve already been through war and know what it means.”
The tech industry has also experienced an exodus. An adviser to the economy minister said last September that 50 per cent of Iran’s tech start-ups had applied to set up abroad.
IMO chief Bahram Salavati said 2,000 start-up visas had been issued to Iranian entrepreneurs in Canada and the UK during 2019-2022.
“A number of tech industry specialists believe Iran is a high-risk environment for a start-up because of the unstable economic outlook,” Nima Namdari, a digital economy analyst, told the Financial Times. “Others want to stay at the cutting-edge of knowledge, but are held back by technological underdevelopment and sanctions here.
“The result is, no matter what their motivations, they all leave. And that drains the Iranian start-up ecosystem.”
Officials have downplayed the concerns. Iran’s vice-president for scientific affairs Rouhollah Dehghani Firouzabadi said this month that the immigration data were “not alarming at all”. President Ebrahim Raisi recently argued that immigration by doctors was a trend that could be “reversed”, giving assurances that “decent jobs” were awaiting those who returned.
However, the IMO said in its 2021 report on Iran’s migration outlook that state policies to manage emigration and encourage the return of expatriates were “confused”.
Many of those left behind feel they will have little option but to join the exodus. Negar said that since last year’s protests, many in the artistic community had shunned leading state-run cultural events, such as the annual Fajr music festival, preferring to perform abroad.
“As independent musicians, that leaves us with little choice but to pack our suitcases too,” she said.
Typhoon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:46 pm Looks like you can look forward to company, HP.
FT | ‘No hope for the future’: Iran faces brain drain as emigration surges
The migration rate from Iran to OECD countries rose 141% between 2020 and 2021Queue "mad mullahs laughing".Iranian musicians Negar and Amir are facing the biggest dilemma of their decade-long marriage: whether or not to bow to political and economic pressures and leave their home country after finally securing Canadian residency visas.
“There’s no hope for the future, and no trust in a government that has failed to do enough for its people,” said Negar, 35, a professional violinist and music teacher, who spoke on the condition that her full name was not used. “Runaway inflation is intolerable. Our students cannot afford to take lessons and we cannot afford to rent performance spaces.”
Negar and her 38-year-old husband are not alone in considering a move. Pointing to a steep rise in applications by Iranians for asylum or work and student visas overseas in recent years, the Tehran-based Iran Migration Observatory (IMO) has said Iran is going through a phase of “uncontrolled mass emigration”.
The country experienced the world’s fastest growth in the migration rate to wealthy OECD countries between 2020 and 2021, according to OECD data. Numbers rose from about 48,000 in 2020 to 115,000 the following year — an increase of 141 per cent — it said.
According to an IMO analysis of data from the UNHCR, the UN’s refugee agency, the number of new asylum applications made globally by Iranians in 2022 rose 44 per cent compared with the previous year.
Meanwhile, the number of Iranians studying abroad has risen for eight consecutive years, from 49,000 in 2013 to 70,000 in 2021, according to the IMO.
Iran is losing 3,000 nurses a year to emigration.
The driving forces are economic and political, say analysts. Iran’s inflation rate has been above 40 per cent for the past four years as the economy is hit by punishing US-led sanctions imposed over Tehran’s nuclear programme.
Meanwhile, the authorities have mounted a heavy crackdown on dissent in response to mass protests that followed the death last year of Mahsa Amini in police custody after her arrest for allegedly breaching hijab rules. Continued geopolitical tensions between Tehran and its rivals, and fears that Iran — which supports anti-Israel and anti-US groups in the region — could be drawn into a broader conflict should the war in Gaza escalate, are also factors.
“The war in Gaza isn’t very far from us,” Negar said. “The sabre-rattling by Israel and the Iranian opposition overseas . . . really freak people out.”
Iranian migrants have traditionally headed for the US, Australia, Canada and Europe. But continued development across the Gulf makes Arab states such as the UAE, Qatar and Oman attractive for those seeking work, and Turkey has also become a favoured destination in recent years, according to the IMO.
Those leaving Iran include professional athletes, artists, skilled workers and technicians from the affluent elite, as well as large numbers of poorer Iranians who often attempt perilous journeys to reach western countries.
Between the start of 2018 and March 2023, Iranian nationals formed the largest group reaching the UK after crossing the Channel from mainland Europe in small boats operated by people-smugglers. According to Oxford University’s Migration Observatory, 18,000 made the crossing — 21 per cent of the total.
Migration among health workers has caused particular concern. Mohammad Sharifi-Moqaddam, secretary-general of Tehran-based NGO the Nurses House, said the number of nurses leaving the country each year had reached 3,000, with the sector now short of 100,000.
“They’re moving to countries such as Germany where they can easily earn €2,500 a month instead of €200 here,” he said earlier this month.
Over the past two years, almost 10,000 doctors had applied for the good-standing certificates that destination countries require from foreign clinicians, according to Hossein-Ali Shahriari, head of the Iranian parliament’s health commission.
Mahsa, 52, a dentist with two decades of experience, who asked that her full name was not used, has been trying to move to Australia, Canada, France or Turkey to give her daughter, a doctor, a more promising future.
“At my age, I may not be able to practice dentistry in another country, but I know my 26-year-old daughter would have no significant income and future here,” she said. “I am also worried about the possibility of war. We’ve already been through war and know what it means.”
The tech industry has also experienced an exodus. An adviser to the economy minister said last September that 50 per cent of Iran’s tech start-ups had applied to set up abroad.
IMO chief Bahram Salavati said 2,000 start-up visas had been issued to Iranian entrepreneurs in Canada and the UK during 2019-2022.
“A number of tech industry specialists believe Iran is a high-risk environment for a start-up because of the unstable economic outlook,” Nima Namdari, a digital economy analyst, told the Financial Times. “Others want to stay at the cutting-edge of knowledge, but are held back by technological underdevelopment and sanctions here.
“The result is, no matter what their motivations, they all leave. And that drains the Iranian start-up ecosystem.”
Officials have downplayed the concerns. Iran’s vice-president for scientific affairs Rouhollah Dehghani Firouzabadi said this month that the immigration data were “not alarming at all”. President Ebrahim Raisi recently argued that immigration by doctors was a trend that could be “reversed”, giving assurances that “decent jobs” were awaiting those who returned.
However, the IMO said in its 2021 report on Iran’s migration outlook that state policies to manage emigration and encourage the return of expatriates were “confused”.
Many of those left behind feel they will have little option but to join the exodus. Negar said that since last year’s protests, many in the artistic community had shunned leading state-run cultural events, such as the annual Fajr music festival, preferring to perform abroad.
“As independent musicians, that leaves us with little choice but to pack our suitcases too,” she said.
A successful basis for an economy, just like N Korea. Brilliant.Heracleum Persicum wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:51 amTyphoon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:46 pm Looks like you can look forward to company, HP.
FT | ‘No hope for the future’: Iran faces brain drain as emigration surges
The migration rate from Iran to OECD countries rose 141% between 2020 and 2021Queue "mad mullahs laughing".Iranian musicians Negar and Amir are facing the biggest dilemma of their decade-long marriage: whether or not to bow to political and economic pressures and leave their home country after finally securing Canadian residency visas.
“There’s no hope for the future, and no trust in a government that has failed to do enough for its people,” said Negar, 35, a professional violinist and music teacher, who spoke on the condition that her full name was not used. “Runaway inflation is intolerable. Our students cannot afford to take lessons and we cannot afford to rent performance spaces.”
Negar and her 38-year-old husband are not alone in considering a move. Pointing to a steep rise in applications by Iranians for asylum or work and student visas overseas in recent years, the Tehran-based Iran Migration Observatory (IMO) has said Iran is going through a phase of “uncontrolled mass emigration”.
The country experienced the world’s fastest growth in the migration rate to wealthy OECD countries between 2020 and 2021, according to OECD data. Numbers rose from about 48,000 in 2020 to 115,000 the following year — an increase of 141 per cent — it said.
According to an IMO analysis of data from the UNHCR, the UN’s refugee agency, the number of new asylum applications made globally by Iranians in 2022 rose 44 per cent compared with the previous year.
Meanwhile, the number of Iranians studying abroad has risen for eight consecutive years, from 49,000 in 2013 to 70,000 in 2021, according to the IMO.
Iran is losing 3,000 nurses a year to emigration.
The driving forces are economic and political, say analysts. Iran’s inflation rate has been above 40 per cent for the past four years as the economy is hit by punishing US-led sanctions imposed over Tehran’s nuclear programme.
Meanwhile, the authorities have mounted a heavy crackdown on dissent in response to mass protests that followed the death last year of Mahsa Amini in police custody after her arrest for allegedly breaching hijab rules. Continued geopolitical tensions between Tehran and its rivals, and fears that Iran — which supports anti-Israel and anti-US groups in the region — could be drawn into a broader conflict should the war in Gaza escalate, are also factors.
“The war in Gaza isn’t very far from us,” Negar said. “The sabre-rattling by Israel and the Iranian opposition overseas . . . really freak people out.”
Iranian migrants have traditionally headed for the US, Australia, Canada and Europe. But continued development across the Gulf makes Arab states such as the UAE, Qatar and Oman attractive for those seeking work, and Turkey has also become a favoured destination in recent years, according to the IMO.
Those leaving Iran include professional athletes, artists, skilled workers and technicians from the affluent elite, as well as large numbers of poorer Iranians who often attempt perilous journeys to reach western countries.
Between the start of 2018 and March 2023, Iranian nationals formed the largest group reaching the UK after crossing the Channel from mainland Europe in small boats operated by people-smugglers. According to Oxford University’s Migration Observatory, 18,000 made the crossing — 21 per cent of the total.
Migration among health workers has caused particular concern. Mohammad Sharifi-Moqaddam, secretary-general of Tehran-based NGO the Nurses House, said the number of nurses leaving the country each year had reached 3,000, with the sector now short of 100,000.
“They’re moving to countries such as Germany where they can easily earn €2,500 a month instead of €200 here,” he said earlier this month.
Over the past two years, almost 10,000 doctors had applied for the good-standing certificates that destination countries require from foreign clinicians, according to Hossein-Ali Shahriari, head of the Iranian parliament’s health commission.
Mahsa, 52, a dentist with two decades of experience, who asked that her full name was not used, has been trying to move to Australia, Canada, France or Turkey to give her daughter, a doctor, a more promising future.
“At my age, I may not be able to practice dentistry in another country, but I know my 26-year-old daughter would have no significant income and future here,” she said. “I am also worried about the possibility of war. We’ve already been through war and know what it means.”
The tech industry has also experienced an exodus. An adviser to the economy minister said last September that 50 per cent of Iran’s tech start-ups had applied to set up abroad.
IMO chief Bahram Salavati said 2,000 start-up visas had been issued to Iranian entrepreneurs in Canada and the UK during 2019-2022.
“A number of tech industry specialists believe Iran is a high-risk environment for a start-up because of the unstable economic outlook,” Nima Namdari, a digital economy analyst, told the Financial Times. “Others want to stay at the cutting-edge of knowledge, but are held back by technological underdevelopment and sanctions here.
“The result is, no matter what their motivations, they all leave. And that drains the Iranian start-up ecosystem.”
Officials have downplayed the concerns. Iran’s vice-president for scientific affairs Rouhollah Dehghani Firouzabadi said this month that the immigration data were “not alarming at all”. President Ebrahim Raisi recently argued that immigration by doctors was a trend that could be “reversed”, giving assurances that “decent jobs” were awaiting those who returned.
However, the IMO said in its 2021 report on Iran’s migration outlook that state policies to manage emigration and encourage the return of expatriates were “confused”.
Many of those left behind feel they will have little option but to join the exodus. Negar said that since last year’s protests, many in the artistic community had shunned leading state-run cultural events, such as the annual Fajr music festival, preferring to perform abroad.
“As independent musicians, that leaves us with little choice but to pack our suitcases too,” she said.
The best and brightest are absorbed into Iranian industries and ventures .. and .. in Military industry
Photoshop.Who is building those pinpoint missiles and orbiting satellites (and the Iranian soon coming GPS) etc etc ? ?
Nonsense.The second tier go to west for post graduate and industry experience.
Of those, the best ones, with industry experience, return back home.
Well, when faced with bad news that is only becoming worse, namely the large and accelerating rate of inflation,Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:33 pm This Iran ‘inflation rate’ graph does not seem to refer to the cost of living in Iran, but only the international exchange rate.
Well, no one outside of Iran is going to accept the Iranian rial as payment for anything,What must Iran buy from the US that would be affected?
Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:33 pm This Iran ‘inflation rate’ graph does not seem to refer to the cost of living in Iran, but only the international exchange rate.
What must Iran buy from the US that would be affected?
noddy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:27 am
foreign debt requires trust from foreign institutions.
and the currency reserve is about on par with a stagnant european country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... e_reserves
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Typhoon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:23 amWell, when faced with bad news that is only becoming worse, namely the large and accelerating rate of inflation,Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:33 pm This Iran ‘inflation rate’ graph does not seem to refer to the cost of living in Iran, but only the international exchange rate.
the mad mullahs have done what all dictatorships typically do*.
Hide the news.
As information on the rate of inflation is no longer available, to estimate it a proxy measure,
such as the black market exchange rate for the market's preferred currency, the US dollar [USD], is used.
Well, no one outside of Iran is going to accept the Iranian rial as payment for anything,What must Iran buy from the US that would be affected?
so Iran has to use some accepted currency or barter.
However, in the case of barter, the price of good exchanged is specified in USD or another currency relative to the USD.
*Another example is the massive youth unemployment rate in PR China.
western parts, electronics then manufactured in china, then put into fibreglass shells in Iran.
Typhoon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:18 am The external debt of Iran is ~ 8.8 billion USD.
The youth unemployment rate in Iran is ~ 26%. Part of the reason why anyone with the ability and opportunity to leave is doing so.
The Iranian drones, so-called, are assembled from Western parts. Iran does not have such advanced manufacturing capability.
The Iranian hypersonic missile is as real as the Russian one - a Photoshop fantasy.
Typhoon wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:33 pmPhotoshop.Heracleum Persicum wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:51 am
Who is building those pinpoint missiles and orbiting satellites (and the Iranian soon coming GPS) etc etc ? ?
Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:05 pm Paywalled. It would have to be a very heavy drone or a teeny tiny missile.
The Karrar has a range of 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) and is designed to track hostile aircraft at “considerably lower costs”
Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:51 pm HP, I don't understand. The Majid is a SAM, but is launched from a tracking drone and called an ATA?
These reports seem confused.
The problem of the West with Russia is a historical problem that has existed since the 18th and 19th centuries and even before the Napoleonic Wars and the First World War.
In the West, there was always the opinion that Russia is a large land that should not be under the rule of one state and should be divided.
It had nothing to do with whether Russia had Tsarist or Soviet rule.
Gorbachev and Yeltsin were not traitors, they didn't think the West had a problem with Russia, they thought it had a problem with communism, and they saw the solution in simply abandoning communism.
The disintegration of the Soviet Union, the destruction of the Russian economy, the breaking of all promises and understandings, the invasion of Yugoslavia and then the expansion of NATO were necessary to make the new Russian leaders understand that the West has a problem with Russia, not with communism.
A similar situation exists in Iran now.
As we said, both the government and its opponents attribute America's problem with Iran to the government's approach and outlook.
While this is not the reality.
America has a problem with Iran, not with this or that government.
There is a problem not only with Iran, but with all countries in the Middle East.
Even with those countries like Iraq that it occupies and has a base in.
The US occupation of Iraq was a means to divide Iraq and take over its oil revenues.
As today, Iraq is the most unfortunate country in the Middle East, along with Lebanon and Libya, where not a single construction project has been carried out by America.
Once we know this, we will be no longer under the impression that, for example, if Mr. Khamenei leaves and someone else comes, our problems with America and the West will be solved.
Without him, our problems with America and the West will continue.
Did Yeltsin come to solve Russia's problem with America?
Our problem with America will be solved when Iran is divided and America dominates our oil.
America's problem with the current government is that this government, and in fact the 1957 Iranian revolution, neither can nor has the conditions to surrender to America's strategy, and even if it surrenders, America's strategy will not change.
As it did not change in relation to the Soviet Union and followed the strategy of disintegration of Russia.
The government is fueling the illusion that America and the West have a problem with the Islamic Republic, Islam and Mr. Khamenei.
From the point of view of America, Israel and the west, Iran is too big, it is located at the head of the highway of global exchanges and east-west and north-south corridors, the oil and gas that is important for the economy of China and America's competitors is more than at the disposal of the government. It should not dominate the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz and...
Therefore, Iran must be disintegrated.
.President Vladimir Putin has said he was wrong to assume the West would establish productive relations with Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union. In reality, it was determined to break the nation apart, the Russian leader explained.
In an interview with Russian journalist Pavel Zarubin aired on Sunday, Putin admitted that he was a “naive” leader early in his political career even though he had a solid background in Soviet intelligence.
The Russian president said that he had believed that the West understood that Russia had become a completely different country after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and that there were no further ideological differences warranting a serious stand-off.
According to Putin, even when he saw Western efforts to support terrorism and separatism in Russia two decades ago, he thought that it was the “inertia of thinking” that was to blame. “They had just got used to fighting the Soviet Union,” he believed.
In reality, however, the West was deliberately trying to undercut Russia, the president said. “After the collapse of the Soviet Union they thought they just had to wait a little longer, and then they would break Russia apart as well.”
According to Putin, the West saw no need for the existence of the world’s largest country, with its large population. “It would be better, as suggested by… [former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew] Brzezinski, to divide it into five parts, and subjugate them one by one.”
This alleged Western plan, he explained, hinged on the premise that several smaller states “would have no weight or voice of their own, and would have no chance to defend their national interests in the way that the united Russian state has.”