Don't fear Vacuums .. it is safe to go home

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Don't fear Vacuums .. it is safe to go home

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foreign powers will not rush to replace U.S. forces,
if they did
it would be a burden, not a boon.




1. Some U.S. leaders fear that reducing U.S. military presence in the Middle East, or removing U.S. forces from warzones, will leave “vacuums,” which adversaries, especially Russia or China, will fill. These fears imagine a precarious balance of power where minor gains by U.S. adversaries create grave dangers—in reality, U.S. security is so profound that almost any potential vacuums are immaterial.

2. Historically, there were various reasons to care about rivals gaining control of foreign territory, but technological change, especially nuclear weapons, and changes in how countries generate wealth means few of these reasons apply today for the United States.

3. In any case, if U.S. forces leave a war zone or end an occupation, the beneficiaries who enjoy greater influence are likely to be local governments, not other distant powers.

4. Today, the places U.S. troops are sent to stabilize tend to be strategically unimportant or irrelevant—that is, not valuable territory for any outsider to control. Therefore, foreign efforts to exploit any potential vacuum created by a U.S. exit will not harm U.S. security.

5. As for wealthier places, like the oil-producing Gulf States, U.S. military exit will not create a vacuum. Influence is not obviously lost by removing troops, foreign powers will not rush to replace U.S. forces, and if they did, it would be a burden, not a boon.


Quite true

US has already come to this conclusion in Middle East .. and .. retreating

China is not going to take over American military bases in ME .. not at all

But, also true : " the beneficiaries who enjoy greater influence are likely to be local governments, not other distant powers. "

mad mullahs comet to mind :lol:
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A better term is "power imbalance" since a vacuum is not a real thing.

A power balance doesn't mean that all is quiet, hunky dory; just that a certain pattern persists over a limited amount of time. Like a chair is only a stable pattern from the moment a carpenter put it together till xx-years later when it stopped being a chair during a fire or rotting away on a dumpster site. It doesn't mean that during the lifetime of the chair nothing of interest happened…

What is considered stable or instable very much depends on where you look and how you look. From far away and low-res, planet earth looks like a stable, beautiful but boring blue dot. Come over here, move around and pay some attention to detail... suddenly boring blue dot changed into a complex universe full of riches, dynamics, and drama.

Trying to make Yankees-go-home sound like a good advice and that there is nothing to fear, is just propaganda. "Be careful what you wish for" is probably a better advice and it works both ways; it doesn't make a difference whether the Yankees stay or go home since nobody knows what the future will bring further down the road anyways.

The future is the only real "power vacuum" to be reckoned with. It destroys the present 24/7 effortlessly and keeps outrunning all our predictions.
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MBS "going full monty" :lol:


https://english.alarabiya.net/News/midd ... his-palace


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Cuba offered Beijing permission to build electronic spy base
White House denies that’s the case



Cuba, the Caribbean Sea island and Cold War remnant isolated from its northern neighbor for most of the past 60 years, has agreed to let China construct an electronic spy base on its territory, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Wonder why took it so long ..
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:37 pm .

Cuba offered Beijing permission to build electronic spy base
White House denies that’s the case



Cuba, the Caribbean Sea island and Cold War remnant isolated from its northern neighbor for most of the past 60 years, has agreed to let China construct an electronic spy base on its territory, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Wonder why took it so long ..
The CCP won't exist long enough to complete it.
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