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Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:37 am
by Doc
http://news.spaceweather.com/sunspot-cy ... n-5-years/
Sunspot Cycle at Lowest Level in 5 Years
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Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:26 pm
by Typhoon

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:30 am
by Doc
http://realclimatescience.com/2017/01/a ... s-as-1940/
Arctic Sea Ice The Same Thickness As 1940
Posted on January 3, 2017 by tonyheller

In 1940, Arctic sea ice was two meters thick.
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Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:39 pm
by Typhoon

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:49 pm
by Doc
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/04/paper ... ium=Social
PAPER: ‘Overwhelming Whiteness’ Is Holding Us Back In The Fight Against Global Warming
Photo of Michael Bastasch
Michael Bastasch
3:52 PM 01/04/2017


Environmentalists demonstrate during a street parade as part of the "Global Village of Alternatives" events held in Montreuil, near Paris, France, December 5, 2015 as the World Climate Change Conference 2015 (COP21) continues at Le Bourget near the French capital. REUTERS/Benoit Tessier

Environmentalists need to move past the “overwhelming whiteness” that is keeping them from winning the debate on global warming, according to an article published on the news site Quartz.

“Given the environmental threats posed by a Trump administration, it’s more crucial than ever that Americans work together to fight climate change,” authors Nicole Smith Dahmen, Troy Elias, Deborah Morrison and Daniel Morrison wrote in Quartz.

“And in order to achieve broad, collaborative action, the mainstream environmental movement will need to take a hard look at how its overwhelming whiteness has thus far hobbled its efforts,” they wrote.

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:50 pm
by Typhoon
Convenient and reliable fossil fuels for me,
Intermittent and unreliable green energy for thee.

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:19 am
by Simple Minded
Doc wrote:http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/04/paper ... ium=Social
PAPER: ‘Overwhelming Whiteness’ Is Holding Us Back In The Fight Against Global Warming
Photo of Michael Bastasch
Michael Bastasch
3:52 PM 01/04/2017


Environmentalists demonstrate during a street parade as part of the "Global Village of Alternatives" events held in Montreuil, near Paris, France, December 5, 2015 as the World Climate Change Conference 2015 (COP21) continues at Le Bourget near the French capital. REUTERS/Benoit Tessier

Environmentalists need to move past the “overwhelming whiteness” that is keeping them from winning the debate on global warming, according to an article published on the news site Quartz.

“Given the environmental threats posed by a Trump administration, it’s more crucial than ever that Americans work together to fight climate change,” authors Nicole Smith Dahmen, Troy Elias, Deborah Morrison and Daniel Morrison wrote in Quartz.

“And in order to achieve broad, collaborative action, the mainstream environmental movement will need to take a hard look at how its overwhelming whiteness has thus far hobbled its efforts,” they wrote.
I have long thought "Ya know, if Climate Scientists could only work racism into their computer model projections, they would instantly gain considerably more credibility."

Since I am a man of science, let me help.

"Can anyone tell me why the Earth has warmed 1.5 degrees in the last 150 years for white people, but 2.5 degrees during the same period for non-white people? Anyone? Yes, you, the bitter looking man in the third row."
"Racism!"
"Actually, it is simply because dark surfaces absorb more radiant energy from the sun than light surfaces. But for you, you should probably just stick with racism."
"You think I'm wrong? Yer a racist!"
"Technically, since I have a PHd.... you will address me as Dr. Racist! Now, try to remember that the X axis is the horizontal axis, and that the Y-axis is the vertical axis. Class dismissed"

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:56 pm
by Doc
Typhoon wrote:Convenient and reliable fossil fuels for me,
Intermittent and unreliable green energy for thee.
Yes indeed. Green money for me soylent green for thee .

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:26 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Seriously, do we still need so much energy?

I'm looking around my room full of led light bulbs and solid state electronics. Almost everything except major appliances have step-down transformers. I'm more lightning bug than lightning bolt when it comes to electricity, but I bet it would be possible to run most of a home on 12 volts instead of 110.

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:08 pm
by Simple Minded
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Seriously, do we still need so much energy?

I'm looking around my room full of led light bulbs and solid state electronics. Almost everything except major appliances have step-down transformers. I'm more lightning bug than lightning bolt when it comes to electricity, but I bet it would be possible to run most of a home on 12 volts instead of 110.
Careful Nonc, promoting DC over AC will get you labeled as some kind of phobe. :shock:

Some activist group is already planning a protest.

Any other latent preferences or prejudices you want to tell us about while you're at it? :?

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:09 pm
by Simple Minded
Doc wrote:
Typhoon wrote:Convenient and reliable fossil fuels for me,
Intermittent and unreliable green energy for thee.
Yes indeed. Green money for me soylent green for thee .
The original renewable resource!

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:06 am
by noddy
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Seriously, do we still need so much energy?

I'm looking around my room full of led light bulbs and solid state electronics. Almost everything except major appliances have step-down transformers. I'm more lightning bug than lightning bolt when it comes to electricity, but I bet it would be possible to run most of a home on 12 volts instead of 110.
its more about the watts (volts * amps) than the volts and the high voltage is much better for long distance transport of power, low volt goes very crap very fast over distance so we need to step down for the last bit no matter what.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_ ... ansmission

ovens are pretty crap on low watts and most of the tools in the shed likewise.

small fridges and most modern electronics are fine on low power 12v systems so its perfectly possible to live on camping gear alone provided you have a gas or woodfired oven - aslong as your house isnt so big as you push the wattage transmission limits of 12v and start fires :)

if/when the bloody usb plug stops changing (usb c?) it would be nice if houses came with those and a nice quality converter to drive them instead of a million dodgy wall warts.

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:51 am
by Doc
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Seriously, do we still need so much energy?

I'm looking around my room full of led light bulbs and solid state electronics. Almost everything except major appliances have step-down transformers. I'm more lightning bug than lightning bolt when it comes to electricity, but I bet it would be possible to run most of a home on 12 volts instead of 110.
LED's will not cook food Will not keep food (and medicine) refridgerated. Will not run factories. (that use the bulk of electricity) They will not run your electric car. They will not heat homes. They will not cool homes. They will not run your computer(at least any time soon) They will not give you hot water. They will not even run the semi conductor fabs they are made in.

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:03 am
by noddy
Doc wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Seriously, do we still need so much energy?

I'm looking around my room full of led light bulbs and solid state electronics. Almost everything except major appliances have step-down transformers. I'm more lightning bug than lightning bolt when it comes to electricity, but I bet it would be possible to run most of a home on 12 volts instead of 110.
LED's will not cook food Will not keep food (and medicine) refridgerated. Will not run factories. (that use the bulk of electricity) They will not run your electric car. They will not heat homes. They will not cool homes. They will not run your computer(at least any time soon) They will not give you hot water. They will not even run the semi conductor fabs they are made in.
led's are low power lights. they make light.

low power systems can run fridges, including fridges with medicine in them.

we dont run factories in our houses.

they will run modern computers, have been ever since the ARM low power revolution that began with smart phones.

hot water, cooling and heating work fine from solar and low power in my country.

i dont run a semi conductor fab in my house, see factories.

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:45 am
by Nonc Hilaire
I can see houses with a 12v strip above the baseboards. Run your new 12v stuff anywhere. Leave the 120/220v as is for now.

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:33 pm
by Doc
Climate Change Protesters at Trump Inauguration

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Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:59 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
It seems like there are more looky-loos and photogs than protestors.

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:55 am
by Doc
Nonc Hilaire wrote:It seems like there are more looky-loos and photogs than protestors.
Seems like the protesters are marching on down the street

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:51 pm
by Doc
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Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:03 am
by Simple Minded
nother indicator that AGW has gotten worse since Trump tool office....

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2744557/w ... ble-beach/

ya never heard about stuff like this when O was POTUS....

UN reveals real reason for AGW scare

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:53 pm
by Nonc Hilaire

Re: UN reveals real reason for AGW scare

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:59 pm
by YMix
Nonc Hilaire wrote:The elimination of capitalism.

https://geopolitics.co/2017/02/04/u-n-o ... ing-scare/
They're too late. Robots will do the job cheaper and more efficiently.

Re: UN reveals real reason for AGW scare

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:58 pm
by Simple Minded
Nonc Hilaire wrote:The elimination of capitalism.

https://geopolitics.co/2017/02/04/u-n-o ... ing-scare/
Hmmmmm..... those who previously lied about their motives, are suddenly believable when they say something that agrees with prior held beliefs. Are these the same experts who didn't see Hilary losing the election?

Why are so many who preach altruism, people of above average wealth?

Kind hearted they are, so they say.... but if so, why have they not already voluntarily given away the "above average" portion of their wealth?

Re: UN reveals real reason for AGW scare

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:59 pm
by Simple Minded
YMix wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:The elimination of capitalism.

https://geopolitics.co/2017/02/04/u-n-o ... ing-scare/
They're too late. Robots will do the job cheaper and more efficiently.
Not if they are Capitalist robots... ;)

Re: Climate and the Anthropogenic Global Warming Controversy

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:52 pm
by Doc
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/ ... arges.html
Federal scientist cooked climate change books ahead of Obama(COP21) presentation, whistle blower charges