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Modern Art

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:12 am
by Typhoon
ARTNews | When Bad is Good
Artworks that mimic soft porn, showcase embalmed animals, mock the Pope, and otherwise offend propriety are filling auctions, museums, and galleries.
Is there anything left to be upset about?

Poor baby . . .

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:45 am
by Marcus
—from the link above:
As Waters recently admitted to a reporter, it is the “final irony” of his life that a gay Catholic underground writer-director from Baltimore is now a member of the club. His highly refined interests in kitsch, scatological humor, porn, tawdry glamour, serial killers, and other tabloid fodder anticipated by decades the zeitgeist of our time.
Y'all go for it . . . :lol:

Re: Poor baby . . .

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:05 am
by Typhoon
Marcus wrote:—from the link above:
As Waters recently admitted to a reporter, it is the “final irony” of his life that a gay Catholic underground writer-director from Baltimore is now a member of the club. His highly refined interests in kitsch, scatological humor, porn, tawdry glamour, serial killers, and other tabloid fodder anticipated by decades the zeitgeist of our time.
Y'all go for it . . . :lol:
My own amateur theory is that technology doomed painting to become a marginal activity.

Once photography could do what was done by painting, representation and portraiture, and do it much better, then painters had to find new meaning and purpose for painting.

And so began the descent from fine art to sh*t on a stick.

In between we had some notable art: impressionism, surrealism, cubism, etc.

However, later generations realized that they could market anything as long as it was accompanied by a sufficiently dense, ironic, and obscure post-modern text.

Re: Poor baby . . .

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:12 am
by Marcus
Typhoon wrote:My own amateur theory is that technology doomed painting to become a marginal activity.

Once photography could do what was done by painting, representation and portraiture, and do it much better, then painters had to find new meaning and purpose for painting.

And so began the descent from fine art to sh*t on a stick.

In between we had some notable art: impressionism, surrealism, cubism, etc.

However, later generations realized that they could market anything as long as it was accompanied by a sufficiently dense, ironic, and obscure post-modern text.
Well, you could be right though I would rather think it's the ditzy world of "art" ever attendant to and parasitic upon the world of fine art (read "painting, representation, and portraiture") that has descended, as you so eloquently and correctly summed it up, to sh*t on a stick. Even then I wonder whether technological expertise and manipulation will ever replace an Andrew Wyeth.

Your last line is on the money . . I've heard even Picasso would have agreed.

Re: Poor baby . . .

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:52 am
by Endovelico
Typhoon wrote:My own amateur theory is that technology doomed painting to become a marginal activity.

Once photography could do what was done by painting, representation and portraiture, and do it much better, then painters had to find new meaning and purpose for painting.

And so began the descent from fine art to sh*t on a stick.

In between we had some notable art: impressionism, surrealism, cubism, etc.

However, later generations realized that they could market anything as long as it was accompanied by a sufficiently dense, ironic, and obscure post-modern text.
My, my! You are of course entitled to your opinion, but putting it into writing is a fearless decision...

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By Ryutaro Ikeda

Re: Modern Art

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:00 pm
by Antipatros
Marvelling at the virtues of tradition, I repeat that everything which does not proceed from this tradition is plagiarism.
-- Salvador Dali

I see that Peter Max is still going strong....

Re: Modern Art

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:57 pm
by Marcus
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POP to Patriotism - Mona Lisa

$260.00
26 x 14 inches
© Peter Max - 1992
* Posters sold signed and dedicated only.
* Dedications must include a name(s).

Traditional art . . .

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:53 pm
by Marcus
And then we have something like this, from the current Signals catalog:
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Birch Forest Oil Painting
Individually hand-painted with oils on canvas, this grandly oversized painting is a walk in the woods, with sunlight filtering through the leaves. The oils are thickly applied and the surface is richly textured. Painting is gallery-wrapped on wood stretcher bars and ready to hang (no frame is needed), but you may add a frame if you choose. 47" x 31 ½". No gift box or rush delivery.

Re: Modern Art

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 3:53 pm
by Antipatros
CBS Sunday Morning, The healing arts

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7407646n

CBS tours Cedars-Sinai's unexpected collection of modern art

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culture ... n-art.html
Los Angeles has plenty of artistic fare to choose from, but one of the surprising parts of this metropolis is just where the art might be hanging.

On a Sunday morning CBS broadcast, news correspondent Bill Whitaker takes a tour through the 1,000 pieces of modern art on display at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles.

The hospital is the unexpected home to one of L.A.'s most extensive contemporary art collections featuring work by such notable names as Robert Rauschenberg, Claes Oldenburg, Frank Stella and Andy Warhol.

“We’re trying to create an environment conducive to healing,” John T. Lange, curator of the collection, tells Whitaker. “So all of the work that's on the walls is for the patients, for the visitors, for the staff. The idea is to give them a pleasant distraction, to uplift their spirit.”...

Re: Poor baby . . .

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 4:33 pm
by Typhoon
Endovelico wrote:
Typhoon wrote:My own amateur theory is that technology doomed painting to become a marginal activity.

Once photography could do what was done by painting, representation and portraiture, and do it much better, then painters had to find new meaning and purpose for painting.

And so began the descent from fine art to sh*t on a stick.

In between we had some notable art: impressionism, surrealism, cubism, etc.

However, later generations realized that they could market anything as long as it was accompanied by a sufficiently dense, ironic, and obscure post-modern text.
My, my! You are of course entitled to your opinion, but putting it into writing is a fearless decision...

. . .
Should I expect a mob of angry pissed-off postmodernists

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at my doorstep?

Have you read the text the often accompanies the works?

Re: Modern Art

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:07 pm
by Typhoon
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Re: Modern Art

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:27 am
by Typhoon

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 6:52 am
by Miss_Faucie_Fishtits
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Re: Modern Art

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:47 am
by Miss_Faucie_Fishtits
I was involved in a performance piece myself for a couple of days last week. Quite sticky too BTW, but I wouldn't eat it.....'>........

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Re: Modern Art

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:13 am
by noddy
flower bombs would be neat in an area that had enough rain to make em work.. id have to go back twice week and hand rear the buggers.

the marshmallow girl is hawt, not sure my stomach could handle the sugar overload though, would need to have more savouries in amongst it

Re: Modern Art

Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:01 pm
by Antipatros
Robert Crumb & Christopher Wool - Musée d'art moderne de la ville de Paris - 2012
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Elaine Sciolino, An Artist’s Journey From Comic Books to Museum Walls

R. Crumb Gets a Show at the Musée d’Art Moderne de la Ville de Paris

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/14/arts/ ... paris.html
13 April 2012

PARIS — R. Crumb, the American cartoonist, is said to be a timid, reclusive soul who doesn’t like visitors, photographers, reporters or even fans.

But here he was on Thursday, dressed in a smart black sport coat and trousers, posing for photographers and holding forth with journalists about fame, fortune, art, politics, music and death.

The occasion was the impending opening, on Friday, of “Crumb, From the Underground to Genesis,” an exhibition covering nearly five decades of his work, at the Musée d’Art Moderne de la Ville de Paris, and his first comprehensive museum retrospective....

The exhibition, on view through Aug. 19, brings together more than 700 original drawings and more than 200 underground magazines, many from Mr. Crumb’s private collection. It opens with greeting cards that he created for the American Greetings Corporation in Cleveland and illustrations made in Harlem and Bulgaria in the early 1960s. There are the psychedelic Zap Comix; his graphic renderings of sex, obscenity and drug use; and intimate photos, including one of Mr. Crumb sitting in a wicker chair in his living room and strumming a banjo.

His memorable cartoon characters are here, including Fritz the Cat, Mr. Natural, Devil Girl, Flakey Foont and Angelfood McSpade. The exhibition ends with his illustrations for Genesis, the opening book of the Bible....
Robert Crumb may be best known for Fritz the Cat and Stoned Agin!:

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...but I particularly like the several series of trading cards he's done featuring musical greats, including this one of "Jelly Roll" Morton:

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Re: Modern Art

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:23 pm
by Typhoon
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Re: Modern Art

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:30 pm
by Hoosiernorm
Whaddya mean that's not part of the exhibit!!

Re: Modern Art

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:59 pm
by Endovelico
Joana Vasconcelos
A Portuguese Artist who thinks BIG!...with weird materials...

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More interesting if you know it is made of...tampons...

Re: Modern Art

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:55 pm
by Hoosiernorm
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Re: Modern Art

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:30 pm
by Typhoon
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Re: Modern Art

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:17 pm
by noddy
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Re: Modern Art

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:49 pm
by Apollonius

Why modern art is vacant
- Jason Newman, Quillette, 12 September 2017
http://quillette.com/2017/09/12/modern-art-vacant/

Andy Warhol was and still is arguably the most recognisable face of modern art. His pieces sell for hundreds of millions, and to find one of his works at a garage sale or flea market would set you up for a very comfortable retirement. With his thick retro glasses and lustrous platinum wigs the man was the epitome of the avant-garde. The central function of his work and the work of his contemporaries was to jumble together high and low culture, to claim them as equal to each other, and to challenge our notion of what really was “worthwhile art.” Building on the work of the early conceptual artists from the turn of the last century, he tore asunder the old ideas of traditional aesthetic value, stating through his pieces that there can only be interpretation and that all works are of equivalent value.

However, when he died in February 1987 the world got a real look at Andy Warhol and what he really considered to be “worthwhile art.” Behind the doors of his neo-classical townhouse the rooms were not furnished by piles of Brillo boxes or indeed stacks of soup cans but objects of a rather different style. Classical busts sat on mahogany tables, portraits lined the walls, and on many surfaces sat fine antiques. Warhol had chosen to adorn his house with pieces that had stood the test of time, pieces that followed the old rules on aesthetic value, but most importantly pieces that would have been shunned in the art world he had created and dominated. ...

Re: Modern Art

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:30 am
by Miss_Faucie_Fishtits
Modern art playfully and sometimes masterfully capitalised on the mind's ability to read meaning into symbols. Given a few lines, a blob of tone or a well placed juxtaposition of otherwise cryptic elements, a viewer can take these morsels..... or scraps, and read them into a depiction of reality. Then things became self- referential, agitprop virtue signalling and stupid. Modern art had an account in the bank of meaning and relevance, but that account is overdrawn......'>..........

Re: Modern Art

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:06 am
by Typhoon
Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote:Modern art playfully and sometimes masterfully capitalised on the mind's ability to read meaning into symbols. Given a few lines, a blob of tone or a well placed juxtaposition of otherwise cryptic elements, a viewer can take these morsels..... or scraps, and read them into a depiction of reality. Then things became self- referential, agitprop virtue signalling and stupid. Modern art had an account in the bank of meaning and relevance, but that account is overdrawn......'>..........
Well said.

And then there is this aspect:

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