AzariLoveIran wrote:.
Look guys
by popular demand
Am posting the entire article and invite for a full debate
Obama Bluffs Netanyahu
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Is the poker game between USA, Iran and Israel nearing its end ?
by Roy Tov
I wish I could say something smart about poker; that would be the perfect opening for an article on the ongoing poker game between the USA, Iran and Israel. Sadly, I don’t play the game. Yet, reliable sources told me that the most important thing while playing poker is not to blink. If you blink, the opponents may use the short visual break to trick you. It appears that this is all one needs to know about the game since on March 20, 2012, President Obama blinked and disclosed America’s strategy to defuse the stand-off in this political poker game.
On March 19, I published Armageddon’s Alliance just a few hours after Netanyahu’s speech to Christians United for Israel (CUFI) in Jerusalem.Analyzing Netanyahu’s words, CUFI’s reactions and a public speech—on the verge of being defined as a formal message from the Israeli establishment to American Jews—by leading Hebrew writer A. B. Yehoshua, it was easy to conclude that Israel is preparing an indirect attack on Iran. As a matter of fact this is the main political discourse in Tel Aviv for many months now. Yet, Israel has already acknowledged that it can’t strike effectively through conventional methods (see Israeli Defense Ministry Acknowledges Defeat and Astonishing Israeli Attack on Iran).
The Graet Game 2012
It seems that in order to attack Iran indirectly, Israel would try to use the heretic support of CUFI to force the American government to attack Iran, in what I have called in the past the “Wag the Dog” strategy. Yehoshua’s speech main surprise was a call to American Jews to emigrate to Israel; according to him this is so urgent that if possible, they should do that as of yesterday, leaving homes and jobs behind.
Due to the sensitive nature of that article’s content, a few things were just implied. Not only is that the favored way of a Hebrew speaker, it also saves me unpleasant encounters with the ADL and their nasty lawyers. Yet, the text was clear enough. One of my faithful readers in New England contacted me immediately, and in what I could judge only as an alarmed tone, asked me if Israel was to detonate a tactical nuclear device in the USA and blame Iran on that. In other words, I was asked if Israel was planning a false flag attack in the style of the 9/11 events, forcing the USA to attack Iran. Unfortunately, I failed to get an answer to that real concern from the Israeli Ministry of Defense.
Is that Possible ?
Could such a feat be achieved? The existence of tactical nuclear devices, capable of creating tiny nuclear explosions with very little—or none—long—lasting radioactive debris is almost formally admitted. The question I got—from a knowledgeable person—was almost a formal admission of that. Apparently, these devices can be made to fit an unsuspicious suitcase. Could Israel smuggle one into the US? The way to achieve that would be dismantling the device in as many parts as possible, while properly encapsulating the radiating ones, and then smuggling it using as many ports of entry as possible. Israel has three easy options for that. A certain group of Israeli citizens—who dress up in a peculiar way—has been many times reported in the Hebrew media as involved in the smuggling of diamonds and illegal goods by sewing them in their odd clothes. For various reasons, customs don’t touch them. Another channel is El Al, Israel’s airline. On October 4, 1992, El Al Flight 1862, a Boeing 747 cargo plane crashed into the Groeneveen and Klein-Kruitberg flats in the Bijlmermeer neighborhood of Amsterdam. Many people died and were injured. The cargo included over 280 kilograms of depleted uranium—used for certain types of missiles—and 190 litres of dimethyl methylphosphonate, which could be used in the synthesis of Sarin nerve gas. The owner of the last was Israel Institute for Biological Research. Most important of all, is the Zim option; I commented in The Cross of Bethlehem how this shipping company is used to transfer products from Dow Chemical to Dimona’s nuclear reactor. Overall, it seems Israel is capable of transferring whatever it wants into the USA.
The Great Game 2012
After Israel achieves that, what would its target be? It must be a place where Israel will find it easy to coordinate the event and where Israel will be perceived as a tragic victim of the event in the aftermath. Most readers have probably guessed like I did: New York. Keeping this in mind while reading Armageddon’s Alliance creates a scary picture, especially due to Yehoshua’s speech. “Leave America!,” he kept saying to American Jews. “Otherwise, you’ll be sacrificed as European Jewry was,” was the implied subtext.
Thus, on the theoretical level, this is a possible Israeli gambit. Would Netanyahu add to his title of bioterrorist the one of nuclear-terrorist? The American Administration has reasons to be worried.
The Poker Game
Hebrew mainstream media is quite boring last months: “War, War, War” read the headlines; “Iran, Iran, Iran” read their subtitles. I commented on that several times (for example in Israel Bluffs Iran). Israel’s poker ploy is clear: “Hold me back!” is Netanyahu saying to the world, hoping to force the USA to attack (see Netanyahu Wags the Dog).
Iran’s attitude is more developed. Its forces are arranged in a defensive fashion (this is admitted even by the CIA), but at the same time is providing help to Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza. Some time ago, I claimed that Bedouins may declare an independent state in the Sinai Peninsula and parts of the Negev Desert (see Explosion in Sinai). Confirming this possibility, Israeli media reported on March 19, 2012, that Iranian military experts are also training the Bedouins in Sinai. Iran’s poker ploy is sending a clear message that Israel could be hit even after a nuclear attack on the Iranian mainland.
America’s maneuvers were pretty clear until now. They were centered on complete support to Israel (see Netanyahu-Obama Talks Aftermath: Alert in Tel Aviv). Yet, it seems the USA is truly worried about the false flag operation described above. So worried, that on March 20, President Obama blinked.
On Tuesday, Obama made a video appeal to the Iranian people on the occasion of Nowruz—the Persian New Year—saying that there was “no reason for the United States and Iran to be divided from one another.” This is a sharp deviation from the belligerent Israeli-American discourse in recent months. Reliable sources claim these words left Netanyahu speechless and blinking uncontrollably.
Netanyahu is now afraid that the USA will sign a deal with Iran. After all, these two could live together in peace. Yet, Israel depends on war for its survival; this is so because war is Israel’s main source of incomes, but also because it is a way of controlling its population by distracting it from the deep social problems this country faces. Netanyahu needs a war with Iran. The only way Netanyahu could prevent a deal between the USA and Iran is by attacking Iran before an agreement is signed, or by performing a false flag attack on American soil. Obama bluffed Netanyahu, who is now looking down into hell, right below the bluff he is precariously standing on. No good options were left for him.
After WWII, the new nuclear weapons of the USA and the USSR lead them into a Cold War. Nowadays we are watching a new Cold War, this time between nuclear USA and a nuclear country that likes to portray itself as its ally: Israel.
Source : Roytov.com
ABOUT THE AUTHOR— Roy Tov is an Israeli dissident who converted to Christianity. Having had a career at Israel’s highest scientific institution and having served in top-secret military units provided Tov with unique insights. This made Tov a marked man when he tried to leave Israel. An attack by Israel left him with permanent damage in his throat. Personal grudges and grievances aside, like Norman Finklestein, Noam Chomsky, Gilad Atzmon , Phil Weiss and so many others, he has the mind and the intellectual reasoning qualities of a typical well-educated and logical Jewish scholar. He is an effective researcher and writer on anti_Zionist and Israeli matters.
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Roy Tov was a Top high ranking Israeli military intelligence officer
well ,
we should debate this
Monster, you go first
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Thank You VERY Much for you post, Azari.
Thank you again for posting the article: something that I would not have been likely to see otherwise.
Is it possible that Israel could do a false flag nuke attack on the US?
Yes. When dealing with things like this, one has to consider capabilities as well as what you believe intentions are.
Israel has nukes. Is tech savvy: so probably has portable nukes that could be used. Israel has done false flag operations (Hat tip to Azrael).
Israel/Bibi does NOT like or trust Obama.... Possibly correctly..........May be getting desperate......
Likewise the Saudis......... Desperate people can be VERY dangerous...... ***
This article reminds me of another nightmare vision: "Prayers for the Assassin" where a false flag operation by Israel like this is discovered after nukes have been used on Washington, New York and Mecca* ..... Results in the destruction of Israel and the conversion of much of America to Islam and a Civil war that breaks up America into about 4 separate nations..........
The twist is that there was a second false flag operation within the first, that the Israeli agent responsible for the attacks was working for a Muslim terrorist mastermind......... who got pretty much what he wanted.........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayers_for_the_Assassin
Byzantine but has to be considered.......
Yes Israel could do it but so could other players.......... and try to blame it on either Israel OR Iran.....
I consider it a real possibility that Iran already has portable nukes purchased most likely from the Soviets or possibly the Norks. Could set up something on the order of "Prayers for the Assassin......
Likewise the Saudis......... They have the money...... Could have bought nukes from the Soviets or others........ Saudis would love to see the effective end of Shia Islam/Iran.........turn the Persian Gulf into the Arabian Gulf......... Elite will be gone for the fallout season.........
The Pakistanis.. probably less likely ......but the US-Pakistan relationship is deteriorating ........ Who knows who has control of the Pak Nukes for how long...... And what they think other than a burning desire for revenge on India.....The wrong people in Pakistan might not mind having Shia Iran, Jewish Israel and Infidel US bloody each other....... Might give them a chance to do India.......But the fallout makes me rate this one less likely but not impossible.......
The Norks: Cause chaos so can grab South Korea while US busy with Iran and Israel..... Probably not but ..... with Norks
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Other actors possible too...... China if they decide they don't need US as a market when we pay with funny money ....... Russia if annoyed enough.... Unlikely but possible..... Brits and French least likely IMVHO but.............
Bottom Line: Possible.......... Possible enough that it needs to be guarded against.......
Means that as peace is sought, care must be paid to the concerns of the Israelis and Saudis at least...... Need to be assured that peace does not mean that either is being abandoned........
Especially Israel as we KNOW for sure that they have Nukes.......... Aid will have to be continued unchanged or increased
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Israel and Iran also need to make peace...... Would love to see as allies again....... Maybe a joint missile project including the US this time: Orion Rocket...........
Details to be discussed later but essentially Israel as it is inside the current borders: Gaza is already gone so the main adjustments need to be on the West Bank: maybe a 3 State Solution...... No more attacks......... Palestinians who want to leave can leave for wherever will take them........ Try to turn Gaza and West Bank into Hong Kong/Singapore/Macao of Mediterranean for those who remain.......
If Iran got a CANDU reactor as part of the deal and set it up properly, Iran could become the radiological disposer for the World........
Make money AND make Iran essential to the world even after the oil runs out......... I wish we/US would do something like this to take care of our radio-waste......
All of this mean if humanity want to survive.......... Get off this 3rd Rock from the Sun/Bedlam planet..........
The Good News: If Tov is right about the mini-nukes specs, then Project Orion is more possible than ever.
* Radiological attack: Mecca is intact but the Haj is now often a life ending event
** Reminds me of the Begin, Carter, Sadat accords.......
*** Would be horrendously risky to try an indirect attack like this...... If you want something done right, Do It Yourself........
IMVHO would be MUCH smarter for Israel to just attack Iran directly with some sort of short half life salted nuke attack. Might well be able to get US to forgive especially if there is something that could be viewed as a provocation.......
Much smarter than tricking a clumsy US to attack Iran.... probably would not do the job thoroughly enough......
And if Iran survives, it will likely attack with counter attack and high probability of good bye much of Northern Hemisphere........
Could happen anyway if Iran has Soviet nukes......... Or if others undertake to avenge Iran even if they were 'despicable Shia'............
I imagine any attack would be aimed at Obama so we/US get Biden as President.....
BUT if false flag discovered and we/US are not sent Bibi's and other conspirator's heads........ End of US Israel relationship...... Possible Armageddon for at least Northern Hemisphere....... Salted nukes..........
Unless peace is made on terms tolerable to all concerned with ability to screw the deal........... Trouble ahead....... I could be wrong..........
For the love of G_d, consider you & I may be mistaken.
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