Israel

[Typhoon]

YES .. True .. better late than never

It will be good for America and good for middle east .. Western backing for minor players distorted and perverted the progress of all ME.

Now let China and Pers*ans handle things.

Israel now must "rethink" the whole story .. not anymore America or Europe will be guarantor of a "Jewish State" , but Pers*a .. this not the first time .. Golden Age of Israel was when part of Pers*an Empire .. there no reason not again.
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CCP controlled China is dead dude. Iran shot off 300 missiles at Israel. 3 of them got through the antimissile defenses. That sounds more like erectile dysfunction than "Handling things"

Seems like Iran needs to give up the cigarettes



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Old habits difficult to get red of


Would you have been happy if 1000s of civilians had been killed ? ?

Iran conveyed the message without inflicting any casualty, Mull*hs should get a medal for this.

Our beloved Pers*ans value human life - Iranian F-4 loaded with twenty four 500-pound bombs to bomb Iraqi installations came back with ordnance not wanting to inflict civilian casualty.
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Or maybe they were afraid that Saddam was going to come looking for them after. When it was the US they didn't have any doubt about "after"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUEwGUDwOxk

In 2013, two Iranian Air Force F-4 Phantoms moved to intercept an MQ-1 drone flying in international airspace near the Iranian border. The two IRIAF fighters were quickly shooed away by two F-22 Raptors who were flying in escort.

Except, they didn't just get a warning message, they were Maverick-ed. That's what I'm calling it now.

And they were singing "Bye bye, its American sky. Drove the F4s to the Gulf but we could not score."

Not sure your read The American Conservative linked above, not sure

It is too fluid a situation to comment in detail, but, for what it’s worth, it appears that the Iranians wanted to keep the attack within that goldilocks threshold with ample warnings ahead.

They had backchannels open with the U.S.

They informed Iraq about the flight path and trajectory of their missiles.

The choice of weaponry—no one intent on waging war uses subsonic drones that take hours to reach the airspace of the enemy to start an air attack followed by a few ballistic missiles, thereby letting enemy air defenses go fully active—was another signal that Iranian actions were predicated on reestablishing deterrence, and not escalation.

2013 .. that was 11 yrs ago .. now Iran not Iran used 2B neither America .. On CNN , Biden said to Natanyahu , America does not want to get involved with Iran .. that closes the Israel Chapter

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Of course they wanted a goldilocks attack on Israel that caused as little damage as possible They may be crazy but they aren't that crazy. Israel is now the partner of the Arabs. Iran ordered the Oct 7th attack because they wanted to prevent Saudi Arabia from signing the Abraham accords. Now Arab countries are defending Israel from Iranian drones and missiles.

What a disaster What a disaster.

There is either an official or de facto peace and cooperation between Israel and the various Arab states.

For example, the Egyptian and Jordanian response to the current war in Gaza was to build border walls as they have no interest in hosting Gazans whom they rightly perceive as toxic to peace and stability.

The common enemy is Iran and its mad mullahs - the only mob still obsessed with the goal of destruction of Israel.
Well, aside from the useful idiots and usual anti-Semites in the West.

[Heracleum Persicum]

There is either an official or de facto peace and cooperation between Israel and the various Arab states.

For example, the Egyptian and Jordanian response to the current war in Gaza was to build border walls as they have no interest in hosting Gazans whom they rightly perceive as toxic to peace and stability.

The common enemy is Iran and its mad mad Mad mad mad mad mad mullahs - the only mob still obsessed with the goal of destruction of Israel.
Well, aside from the useful idiots and usual anti-Semites in the West.

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Look, Since a year HP sayin what really going on in Ukraine, that Ukraine is losing badly .. But you guys posted wishful thinking PR plants celebrating the contrary


This ex-CIA military analyst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVCEEJPyBH4&t=43s


CRAZY .. clip showing Iranian Ballistic missile just before hitting Nevatim Air Base is intercepted by Israeli anti missile missile ..
Iranian ballistic missile evades by changing course and hits the target

I posted some time ago a detailed report and pictures that Iranian ballistic missiles are "steerable", change course to the last millisecond before hitting target .. for that they must be steered by AI

Not aware that Americans "ballistic missiles" are steerable to last moment
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[NapLajoieonSteroids]

and your posting armchair generals who are thinking like the 20th century men that they are.

"The media will show" was correct a long time ago, what does that even mean in a world of advanced video manipulation? And that cuts both ways, there is a nonzero percentage of people who will trust or distrust anything put in front of them.

Why would the media go anywhere nowadays? Who can afford it? The NY Times value, as an example, was built on foreign correspondence...something now obsolete for 30+ years. If I wanna hear how Brussels is doing I have a million and one internet portals to talk to residents or observe from a distance; I don't need Bob Reporter to filter that for a dollar a viewing.

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As for American drones and ballistic missiles, only God knows when it comes to stuff kept close to the vest. I'm not placing a wager down but realistically; America has been experimenting with this stuff since WWII. Joe Kennedy Jr, the older brother of the President (and the one being groomed for the job) died during an experimental drone mission in 1944. Between the armed forces, the national space program and the private sector, who knows who has been playing around with what since then- maybe all for naught, maybe not.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Ukraine is a perfect example of how media warfare doesn't move the needle like it once did.

So many grand pronouncements and assurances, so little accomplished. It's been all over for Ukraine and Israel for years now. They are taking longer to get to the future than the Brazilians.

What to do with all the wish-fulfillment floating around? Beats me.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Agree, you right in both above posts.

Re Israel now, I think the main message of Mull*hs to Israel AND West is that things now operate based on a new equation .. if West and Israel accept this, they will operate, calculate, based on the new equation and generally things will calm down as they know now that Mull*hs not Mull*hs used 2B.

I think also, key in all this is what West, Europe and US, decide .. it is not in Israeli hand .. West decides calm down or escalate.

Escalation would mean NATO and Europe weakening in eastern front, Russia taking Odessa, cutting Ukraine off Black Sea, probably end of Ukraine as now.

US would be into another Iraq/Afghan quicksand with Sheikhs f*cked, Hormuz closed, Brents at 200 $/b

All this for what ? ?

Israeli wise, Israel's hand are empty, they know all this, Mull*hs know this too.

So, everybody relaaax

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[Heracleum Persicum]

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No sure whether you got what Mull*hs saying .. they sayin :

If Israel, directly or indirectly, attacks any Iranian, Iranian interest or anything related to Iran, WORLDWIDE, Iran would hit very hard INSIDE Israel.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/evZ8xQ2AE2Y

[Heracleum Persicum]

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https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/nyt ... Newsletter

LEAKED NYT GAZA MEMO TELLS JOURNALISTS TO AVOID WORDS “GENOCIDE,” “ETHNIC CLEANSING,” AND “OCCUPIED TERRITORY”

Told you

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[Heracleum Persicum]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lxAqALLNiE


Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. is a senior fellow at Brown University's Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, a former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense, ambassador to Saudi Arabia (during operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm), acting Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs, and Chargé d'affaires at both Bangkok and Beijing.

He began his diplomatic career in India but specialized in Chinese affairs. (He was the principal American interpreter during President Nixon's visit to Beijing in 1972.)

Cuts through Western media PR bullsh*t

He is an American establishment high ranking official .. he not now constrain to tell the real story

He confirms what HP sayin .. watch what he says




And

https://youtu.be/YSLoueGyHLs?si=3SP3r1TmHS2Sdoy4&t=123

The most heavily defended place on planet, heavier defended than the While House, is Nevatim Airbase in Israel .. Iran fired 7 ballistic missiles at that base , 5 hit the base , if even 2 missiles would have been carrying the the usual warhead the base would have been total write off.

That should tell you guys something
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[Heracleum Persicum]

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https://youtu.be/R9mnnGuOgNA?si=sd-W8h0HEwLltLMU&t=503


Jacques Baud is a former member of Swiss strategic intelligence, a specialist in Eastern European countries and head of United Nations peace operations doctrine.
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[Nonc Hilaire]

The name is Baud. Jacques Baud.

[Heracleum Persicum]

The name is Baud. Jacques Baud.

Yes , it is



very informative and true expert report

2 important points he says

- He says that Iran kept others (Yemen, Lebanon guy, Syria etc) out .. so that Israeli know this Iran who they dealing with .. and those are kept in reserve for the next BANG which will be much more massive, in case Israel answers back.


- he says thet Iran send many very cheap drones to drain western anti missiles .. next were send old cruise missiles to drain more defence .. when the ballistic missiles arrived, there was no defence left , and, the ballistic missiles were "multi head warheads"

informative to watch

[Typhoon]

Ukraine is a perfect example of how media warfare doesn't move the needle like it once did.

So many grand pronouncements and assurances, so little accomplished. It's been all over for Ukraine and Israel for years now. They are taking longer to get to the future than the Brazilians.

What to do with all the wish-fulfillment floating around? Beats me.

The naiveté and lack of resolve of the political and chattering classes in the West is pathetic.

[Parodite]

Wouldn't be surprised if adding all the dead and injured people plus material damage per war, they would all come very close. Only difference would be duration: from short and intense... to loooong and protracted. More killing i.e. enough killing and destruction are the metric by which wars end eventually. Like a fire burning itself out.

The "international community" in particular seems to prefer a slomo controlled demolition, adding extra fuel for the next round. Maybe the Isra-Pal conflict is just a campfire where people come together to warm hands and hearts, get a bit of excitement as hooligan supporters for one or the other, or look at the bloodshed to be inspired and sing Kumbaya. Ukraine of course is a similar victim of autistic-messianic anti-realist burocrats in the West. Another season on Netflix of "The Rape of Ukrainina" is to be enjoyed.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Wouldn't be surprised if adding all the dead and injured people plus material damage per war, they would all come very close. Only difference would be duration: from short and intense... to loooong and protracted. More killing i.e. enough killing and destruction are the metric by which wars end eventually. Like a fire burning itself out.

The "international community" in particular seems to prefer a slomo controlled demolition, adding extra fuel for the next round. Maybe the Isra-Pal conflict is just a campfire where people come together to warm hands and hearts, get a bit of excitement as hooligan supporters for one or the other, or look at the bloodshed to be inspired and sing Kumbaya. Ukraine of course is a similar victim of autistic-messianic anti-realist burocrats in the West. Another season on Netflix of "The Rape of Ukrainina" is to be enjoyed.

Biden, Europeans sobered "Natanyahu & friends" that now time Israel folds its cards .. the attack on Iran just PR for internal consumption.

To untrained eye all this does not look good, contemplating Mull*hs now too daring .. but, hopefully, now "BiBi & friends" realize world has changed and Israel's position, internationally, militarily, morally dramatically weakened, that should make Israel realize time to settle with Palestinians running out, Natanyahu's vision of future Israel is out the window.

Maybe now the time to call an election, and see what Israeli electorate wants, more of the same, or settle with Pali

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[Heracleum Persicum]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUBAMVDjHQU

Iranian (very informed) media


Says a few Israeli missiles (on the way to Iran) were intercepted and shot down over Iraq .. they were intercepted and shot down by US Forces.

Seems US and European told Natanyahu it is not in Western interest to expand this and Israel should not respond, Natanyahoo did not listen .. so, US intercepted and shot down Israeli missiles over Iraq


And .. accurate assessment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBf8VvyiWIw&t=9s

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[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Ukraine is a perfect example of how media warfare doesn't move the needle like it once did.

So many grand pronouncements and assurances, so little accomplished. It's been all over for Ukraine and Israel for years now. They are taking longer to get to the future than the Brazilians.

What to do with all the wish-fulfillment floating around? Beats me.

The naiveté and lack of resolve of the political and chattering classes in the West is pathetic.

"Naiveté and lack of resolve" may be too kind in some cases.

[Parodite]

Wouldn't be surprised if adding all the dead and injured people plus material damage per war, they would all come very close. Only difference would be duration: from short and intense... to loooong and protracted. More killing i.e. enough killing and destruction are the metric by which wars end eventually. Like a fire burning itself out.

The "international community" in particular seems to prefer a slomo controlled demolition, adding extra fuel for the next round. Maybe the Isra-Pal conflict is just a campfire where people come together to warm hands and hearts, get a bit of excitement as hooligan supporters for one or the other, or look at the bloodshed to be inspired and sing Kumbaya. Ukraine of course is a similar victim of autistic-messianic anti-realist burocrats in the West. Another season on Netflix of "The Rape of Ukrainina" is to be enjoyed.

Biden, Europeans sobered "Natanyahu & friends" that now time Israel folds its cards .. the attack on Iran just PR for internal consumption.

To untrained eye all this does not look good, contemplating Mull*hs now too daring .. but, hopefully, now "BiBi & friends" realize world has changed and Israel's position, internationally, militarily, morally dramatically weakened, that should make Israel realize time to settle with Palestinians running out, Natanyahu's vision of future Israel is out the window.

Maybe now the time to call an election, and see what Israeli electorate wants, more of the same, or settle with Pali

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Actually factually, nothing much changed, nothing new, same old for decades. Your projections and sub-realistic claims notwithstanding.

Isra-Pal still fighting over same territories. Every 10 year or so militant freedom fighter Palestinians violently attack, not minding blowing up buses, restaurants, random stabbings, or a pogromesque mass murder of Jews on 7-10 2023. Israel then takes out its big hammer and pulverizes enough of them, collateral civil deaths taken as an unavoidable self-inflicted price the Pals have to pay, to ensure the coming 10 years or so know some manageable quiet.

None of the surrounding players, which includes Iran, want these cat&mouse confrontations to escalate into a wider regional war. Which means that these iterations will just continue without major changes.

Which begs the question: if anything, what will end this cycle of decadal meyham, enforce a real and different trajectory?

Of course a WW3 might, that likely starts in a confrontation between Putin and the West over Ukraine. Much more at stake there for many more power gamers.

But other external forces may come in, especially those not-anticipated. I would bet on a viral pandemic that dwarfs covid and does bring down society as we know it.

China isn't an existential threat, despite the CCP behaving like a mobster gang of psychopaths - which it is. The real victims of the CCP will be Chinese elderly left to die and rot in their surplus real estate sky scrapers.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Wouldn't be surprised if adding all the dead and injured people plus material damage per war, they would all come very close. Only difference would be duration: from short and intense... to loooong and protracted. More killing i.e. enough killing and destruction are the metric by which wars end eventually. Like a fire burning itself out.

The "international community" in particular seems to prefer a slomo controlled demolition, adding extra fuel for the next round. Maybe the Isra-Pal conflict is just a campfire where people come together to warm hands and hearts, get a bit of excitement as hooligan supporters for one or the other, or look at the bloodshed to be inspired and sing Kumbaya. Ukraine of course is a similar victim of autistic-messianic anti-realist burocrats in the West. Another season on Netflix of "The Rape of Ukrainina" is to be enjoyed.

Biden, Europeans sobered "Natanyahu & friends" that now time Israel folds its cards .. the attack on Iran just PR for internal consumption.

To untrained eye all this does not look good, contemplating Mull*hs now too daring .. but, hopefully, now "BiBi & friends" realize world has changed and Israel's position, internationally, militarily, morally dramatically weakened, that should make Israel realize time to settle with Palestinians running out, Natanyahu's vision of future Israel is out the window.

Maybe now the time to call an election, and see what Israeli electorate wants, more of the same, or settle with Pali

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Actually factually, nothing much changed, nothing new, same old for decades. Your projections and sub-realistic claims notwithstanding.

Isra-Pal still fighting over same territories. Every 10 year or so militant freedom fighter Palestinians violently attack, not minding blowing up buses, restaurants, random stabbings, or a pogromesque mass murder of Jews on 7-10 2023. Israel then takes out its big hammer and pulverizes enough of them, collateral civil deaths taken as an unavoidable self-inflicted price the Pals have to pay, to ensure the coming 10 years or so know some manageable quiet.

None of the surrounding players, which includes Iran, want these cat&mouse confrontations to escalate into a wider regional war. Which means that these iterations will just continue without major changes.

Which begs the question: if anything, what will end this cycle of decadal meyham, enforce a real and different trajectory?

Of course a WW3 might, that likely starts in a confrontation between Putin and the West over Ukraine. Much more at stake there for many more power gamers.

But other external forces may come in, especially those not-anticipated. I would bet on a viral pandemic that dwarfs covid and does bring down society as we know it.

China isn't an existential threat, despite the CCP behaving like a mobster gang of psychopaths - which it is. The real victims of the CCP will be Chinese elderly left to die and rot in their surplus real estate sky scrapers.

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One can not predict things in micro level .. but the big picture crystal clear


World has changed dramatically for Israel .. all the past rules are out the window and new rules now apply

It is not anymore possible to attack Syrian targets and maybe Iranians be killed .. Mull*hs said any attack on Iranians anywhere in the world they would massively retaliate directly inside Israel from Iranian soil .. that is on the record

And, West does not want "distracted" from Ukraine (Russia threatening all Europe), China (eating American lunch)

All western public AND military personnel are now anti Israel.

Considering all the above, all now depends on Israeli electorate, whether they realize all that, and which road ahead they chose.

Israel now should reboot .. After October 17 and Iran teaching a lesson to Israel, after present government ruined what Israel built last 80 yrs, has not the mandate for what next .. there is a need for new mandate from Israeli electorate what road ahead Israel should take

New election the way to go ..
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[Parodite]

Iran will continue what it was doing for decades already. As I said nothing changed; from their proxy locations in Syria they will make sure no peace is ever possible and when the Israelis decide certain targets in Syria need to be bombed, rocketeered or snipered they will do do so.

The Mad mad mullahs are not called mad for no reason. They keep doing the same thing and expect different results. Or maybe they don't and just enjoy seeing Israelis suffer, scared or even better killed, while having wet dreams about non-existing realities.

Cyrus the Great, of which I am an incarnation, has decided: the mad mullahs and their military gangsters have to go. They are destroying the Persian Promise. Popular uprising in Iran will accomplish that. After that, when also Bibi and the other Mad Moshes in Israel are sidelined, relationships between Iran and Israel will be normalized. These are all co-dependent preconditions, one won't happen without the other.

Sunni Arabs will be kept on life support for as long as there is oil under their feet to pay their bills. When oil is over, naturally Iran and Israel together will clean out the barn. Russia and China will soon end being butt buddies. Not a natural marriage.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Iran is set to receive its First Batch of roughly 24 Su-35 “Flanker-E” Air Superiority Fighters from Russia sometime next Week

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyHycvWmuAU&t=70s


US , West, wants to get red of present Israeli government .. but Natanyahu would not call new election .. also, Natanyahu has fooled Israeli mass (and some posters here ) into believe that Israel can wipe out Palestinians and have it all

So, William J. Burns head of CIA met with Iranian official and gave the OK for Iran attack on Israel on condition no fatality occurs ..

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US forces in ME , in Iraq , 5th fleet in Bahrain, in Kuwait, in UAE and Qatar , they have strict order to repel any attack against Iran, to prevent Iran hitting back and things escalate"

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IDdujdwRumc

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[Heracleum Persicum]

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Columbia University VP
unable to answer if Palestinians are humans


All this remembers me of Anti Vietnam war uprising in US campuses, leading to Kent State Shooting

That sealed Vietnam war chapter

We headed into that direction with "Israel Project" ..


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WVk131DwTJc .. DISASTER

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[Parodite]

The sky is full of faces.

[Nonc Hilaire]

University protests. All the Jewish students are home for passover and not at classes anyway.

The US protests are just the communists doing their OCCUPY/BLM/Antifa election thing again. This time their witch of Endor has summoned the ghosts of the Intifada and the Vietnam protests.