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Nonc Hilaire wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:18 am
Zack Morris wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:44 am Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Mark Zuckerberg are gifted outliers. For a person of average to above average intellect, college is still the pathway to efficiently acquiring skills that will guarantee an upper middle class life. It would be nice if the educational system were more flexible early on. But the market wants standardized education to make assessment of employees easier.

If you're an outlier -- a Gates, Jobs, or Zuckerberg -- you can already make your own rules.
Not outliers. Out & out liars.


just robber barons on the new frontier, history will not be kind once the fanboyism dies down.
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Zack Morris wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:57 pm Useless, yet highly-privileged, people who hate themselves, their life choices, and the society that they live in.
Sounds like you just described the "red pill" crowd to a tee.

If one were educating a child today in a developed country, I would advise them to pursue the arts as a major, STEM as a minor. The future belongs to those with imagination and a passion for life.
Presumes that the arts have a lock on "imagination" and a "passion for life".

In the West, my own anecdotal observation is the opposite is the case.

I find it interesting that every scientist I know has some artistic talent: most play a musical instrument, some paint, a few even sculpt.

On the other hand, when it comes to art majors, they are typically less informed about science than a bevy of swans.
Of course, there are notable exceptions.
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noddy wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:28 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:32 pm
noddy wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:28 am this is all last century arguments, violence has been trending down in all demographics since the 70's.

the current argument is who gets tax payer resources and why are they more deserving than other cultures/sub cultures.

middle class uni education is only the dream of middle class uni educated types, they never checked if that was the dream of native americans, rednecks or ghetto blacks.
Not one is arguing [except some of my US colleagues] that all blacks should attend uni [white rednecks are ignored].

Be it black or white redneck, everyone in a society should have competent math and literacy skills so that they can make other choices in life than "livin' with yo mama" while trying to make it as a "gangsta rappa". Be that a apprenticeship to learn a useful trade, attend college to earn a useful degree, or attend a uni to earn a professional degree [M.D., P.Eng, etc.]. The talented few should have the opportunity give STEM a go.

On the other hand, degrees in various "grievance studies" may be a growth industry in the West, but they contribute less than zero to society.
I dont get your point, sorry.

we dont need any more tradies, we dont need any more college grads, we dont need any more uni grads.

all those roles are already over serviced and have increasing unemployment, the fix is to create less of those students, not more.
As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger, 'What do you mean "We", Kemosabe?'.

Japan has a labour shortage, due in part to the low birthrate.

Automation is part of the solution.
Unlike Australia and the US, mass immigration from India and China is not an option for the foreseeable future.
noddy wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:28 am
noddy wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:28 am
india and china pump out more surplus grads in all industries than the population of my country.

i really think we are past bromides on all this - education is not the answer, its not going to create more jobs, just more competition for existing jobs.

its why we had the occupy protests, its why we had the tea party protests, its why we have the BLM protests, its why we have alt-right and angry groups everywhere.

our societies stopped making safe middle class jobs for "mediocre" people, those people are expected to be happy about being declared not good enough to live comfortably.

its why we have all the bitterness against "mediocre white men giving each other jobs"

if the percentage of safe middle class jobs for black people is statistically correct, that still leaves way too many of them exactly where they are right now.

we need some way of making the 50% of the population who are below mediocre a part of society in ways that dont leave them angry and feeling under the pump

when i was a kid, atleast 50% of the population barely finished middle school and happily went on to work with on the job training - farms and industry.

they could then afford single income house and raise a family modestly on that.

those folks are the angry ones, they arent going anywhere, and jobs arent being created that need them.

I dont know what the solution is, all I know is that education is only a small part of the picture.
Long term the trend is to automation.

The decline of the US industrial base, notably manufacturing, was well underway back when I lived in the US in the early 1990s.

Imagine the situation when the massive managerial class, so-called, is significantly impacted by automation.

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These are typically well-paying jobs. Over valued and over payed one could argue.
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Long term the trend is to automation.

The decline of the US industrial base, notably manufacturing, was well underway back when I lived in the US in the early 1990s.

Imagine the situation when the massive managerial class, so-called, is significantly impacted by automation.


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These are typically well-paying jobs. Over valued and over payed one could argue.
yeh, before I switched to industrial jobs most of my work was automating middle management away, that process is constantly happening and its main holdback has been luddite boomer managers and traditional workplaces - both of which Covid have attacked virulently!
Over valued and over payed one could argue.

indeed, the list of angry unemployables gets bigger every day, something is going to pop.

.. which leads us to domestic terrorism being the number one focus of the moment.
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Data Scientists need to "learn to code"


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Colonel Sun wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:04 am
Zack Morris wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:57 pm Useless, yet highly-privileged, people who hate themselves, their life choices, and the society that they live in.
Sounds like you just described the "red pill" crowd to a tee.

If one were educating a child today in a developed country, I would advise them to pursue the arts as a major, STEM as a minor. The future belongs to those with imagination and a passion for life.
Presumes that the arts have a lock on "imagination" and a "passion for life".

In the West, my own anecdotal observation is the opposite is the case.
Famous Questions:

The science major asks "Why does that work?"
The engineering major asks "How does that work"
The art major asks "You want fries with that?"
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Zack Morris wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:42 am
Enki wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:41 pm I guess being banned by Google or Twitter for advocating racial violence is culture. If they had a better culture they wouldn't be having their rights infringed by multinationals.
This brings up an interesting question: what exactly is conservative culture and what innovations has it developed in recent decades? One of the most interesting deficits is in the area of comedy. Why aren't conservatives funny? Pushing the boundaries of permissible thought, as these intellectual rebels see themselves, should produce humor and satire that resonates with people demoralized by stale liberalism.

[You're not special. https://www.onthenatureofthings.net/for ... p?p=65#p65]


Funny? Why do conservatives even need to be funny? 'Liberals' always manage to make themselves look ridiculous without any help:

The terrifying scourge of ‘multiracial whiteness’
- Cockburn, The Spectator, 18 January 2021
https://spectator.us/topic/terrifying-s ... whiteness/



The Washington Post reveals why so many ‘white supremacists’ are in fact not white. It’s scary



... The Washington Post is here to explain all the bad think away. Over the weekend, the paper ran a piece by NYU history professor Cristina Beltrán: ‘To understand Trump’s support, we must think in terms of multiracial Whiteness.’

Multiracial…whiteness? Aren’t those antonyms? Not at all, you fool. Beltrán explains: ‘Rooted in America’s ugly history of white supremacy, indigenous dispossession and anti-blackness, multiracial whiteness is an ideology invested in the unequal distribution of land, wealth, power and privilege — a form of hierarchy in which the standing of one section of the population is premised on the debasement of others. Multiracial whiteness reflects an understanding of whiteness as a political color and not simply a racial identity — a discriminatory worldview in which feelings of freedom and belonging are produced through the persecution and dehumanization of others.’

See? Sloppy reporting has left everyone tragically confused. When the Post calls Trump supporters white, it’s not talking about their actual skin color. It’s just calling them evil. But the path of unrighteousness is open to all. Beltrán warns that those born brown may fall to whiteness by embracing the evil path of…’colorblind individualism’.
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Simple Minded wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:42 pm
Colonel Sun wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:04 am
Zack Morris wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:57 pm Useless, yet highly-privileged, people who hate themselves, their life choices, and the society that they live in.
Sounds like you just described the "red pill" crowd to a tee.

If one were educating a child today in a developed country, I would advise them to pursue the arts as a major, STEM as a minor. The future belongs to those with imagination and a passion for life.
Presumes that the arts have a lock on "imagination" and a "passion for life".

In the West, my own anecdotal observation is the opposite is the case.
Famous Questions:

The science major asks "Why does that work?"
The engineering major asks "How does that work"
The art major asks "You want fries with that?"
Still more useful then the management consultant mob.
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Colonel Sun wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:04 am
Zack Morris wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:57 pm Useless, yet highly-privileged, people who hate themselves, their life choices, and the society that they live in.
Sounds like you just described the "red pill" crowd to a tee.

If one were educating a child today in a developed country, I would advise them to pursue the arts as a major, STEM as a minor. The future belongs to those with imagination and a passion for life.
Presumes that the arts have a lock on "imagination" and a "passion for life".

In the West, my own anecdotal observation is the opposite is the case.

I find it interesting that every scientist I know has some artistic talent: most play a musical instrument, some paint, a few even sculpt.

On the other hand, when it comes to art majors, they are typically less informed about science than a bevy of swans.
Of course, there are notable exceptions.
Technology is a commodity now. The value add comes from imagining interesting ways to apply technology and it is the creative types who are the most valuable and influential. Engineers and scientists have become hyper specialized and product ideas are increasingly being driven by people who shun that label.
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thats going to employ dozens of people, maybe hundreds
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Zack Morris wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:02 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:04 am
Zack Morris wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:57 pm Useless, yet highly-privileged, people who hate themselves, their life choices, and the society that they live in.
Sounds like you just described the "red pill" crowd to a tee.

If one were educating a child today in a developed country, I would advise them to pursue the arts as a major, STEM as a minor. The future belongs to those with imagination and a passion for life.
Presumes that the arts have a lock on "imagination" and a "passion for life".

In the West, my own anecdotal observation is the opposite is the case.

I find it interesting that every scientist I know has some artistic talent: most play a musical instrument, some paint, a few even sculpt.

On the other hand, when it comes to art majors, they are typically less informed about science than a bevy of swans.
Of course, there are notable exceptions.
Technology is a commodity now. The value add comes from imagining interesting ways to apply technology and it is the creative types who are the most valuable and influential. Engineers and scientists have become hyper specialized and product ideas are increasingly being driven by people who shun that label.
Can you provide concrete examples to back up your claims or are these vapid assertions?
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https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-s ... n-rate.htm

the official stats arent looking that flash for white or black folks and its a bipartisan 20 year trend.
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Colonel Sun wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:04 am
Zack Morris wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:02 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:04 am
Zack Morris wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:57 pm Useless, yet highly-privileged, people who hate themselves, their life choices, and the society that they live in.
Sounds like you just described the "red pill" crowd to a tee.

If one were educating a child today in a developed country, I would advise them to pursue the arts as a major, STEM as a minor. The future belongs to those with imagination and a passion for life.
Presumes that the arts have a lock on "imagination" and a "passion for life".

In the West, my own anecdotal observation is the opposite is the case.

I find it interesting that every scientist I know has some artistic talent: most play a musical instrument, some paint, a few even sculpt.

On the other hand, when it comes to art majors, they are typically less informed about science than a bevy of swans.
Of course, there are notable exceptions.
Technology is a commodity now. The value add comes from imagining interesting ways to apply technology and it is the creative types who are the most valuable and influential. Engineers and scientists have become hyper specialized and product ideas are increasingly being driven by people who shun that label.
Can you provide concrete examples to back up your claims or are these vapid assertions?
That artistic and creative ability are major value drivers? I can give a concrete example: Apple, Facebook, Google, and to a lesser extent Microsoft are locked in a fierce but largely still invisible (to the public) competition to bring a particular technology to market. It will become part of your daily life in the same way smart phones have. Technologically, these will be perhaps the most sophisticated consumer products ever produced. The departments working on them have had almost unlimited budgets at their disposal and account for a dominant share of new technology development at some of these firms.

Yet these departments also staff an enormous number of artists, technical artists, and designers in key roles. They’re necessary not only to conceptualize the user experience but also find themselves valuable for being able to visualize concepts and communicate them to stakeholders. The physicists, programmers, electrical and mechanical engineers are mostly sequestered on hyper focused projects, while the creative folks liaise, brainstorm, ideate, and most importantly, persuade. A lot of these folks are being pulled from the gaming and film industries, interestingly.

Outside of big companies, there’s been an explosion of independent artists leveraging existing platforms. Entertainment spending continues to grow — humans have a boundless appetite for entertainment. The game industry alone is now larger than the music and film industries. Gaming companies that are able to receive venture funding are, anecdotally, led by creative people, not technologists.

In the way that social media was a harbinger of how the web would evolve 15 years ago, whatever the kids are doing these days (TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitch, OnlyFans) are clues as to what will become valuable in the future and how entertainment will evolve.

People increasingly crave experiences, not things. Anybody raising a child today would be foolish not to bias their education slightly more in favor of drawing, music, and theater over math olympiads, coding boot camps, and science.
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As for automation making immigration unnecessary, we aren’t there yet. I visited Japan a couple of years ago after not having been there for about 9 years. It was striking to see how many low-skill immigrants were manning convenience stores and fast food joints. I’m actually not sure I even encountered a Japanese cashier at the 711sand Lawsons I visited. A decade prior, all the cashiers were Japanese. Change is already happening surprisingly fast.

I’m a big believer in automation but do you know why we don’t have robots doing our dishes yet? People are still a lot cheaper.
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Zack Morris wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:24 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:04 am
Zack Morris wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:02 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:04 am
Zack Morris wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:57 pm Useless, yet highly-privileged, people who hate themselves, their life choices, and the society that they live in.
Sounds like you just described the "red pill" crowd to a tee.

If one were educating a child today in a developed country, I would advise them to pursue the arts as a major, STEM as a minor. The future belongs to those with imagination and a passion for life.
Presumes that the arts have a lock on "imagination" and a "passion for life".

In the West, my own anecdotal observation is the opposite is the case.

I find it interesting that every scientist I know has some artistic talent: most play a musical instrument, some paint, a few even sculpt.

On the other hand, when it comes to art majors, they are typically less informed about science than a bevy of swans.
Of course, there are notable exceptions.
Technology is a commodity now. The value add comes from imagining interesting ways to apply technology and it is the creative types who are the most valuable and influential. Engineers and scientists have become hyper specialized and product ideas are increasingly being driven by people who shun that label.
Can you provide concrete examples to back up your claims or are these vapid assertions?
That artistic and creative ability are major value drivers? I can give a concrete example: Apple, Facebook, Google, and to a lesser extent Microsoft are locked in a fierce but largely still invisible (to the public) competition to bring a particular technology to market. It will become part of your daily life in the same way smart phones have. Technologically, these will be perhaps the most sophisticated consumer products ever produced. The departments working on them have had almost unlimited budgets at their disposal and account for a dominant share of new technology development at some of these firms.

Yet these departments also staff an enormous number of artists, technical artists, and designers in key roles. They’re necessary not only to conceptualize the user experience but also find themselves valuable for being able to visualize concepts and communicate them to stakeholders. The physicists, programmers, electrical and mechanical engineers are mostly sequestered on hyper focused projects, while the creative folks liaise, brainstorm, ideate, and most importantly, persuade. A lot of these folks are being pulled from the gaming and film industries, interestingly.

Outside of big companies, there’s been an explosion of independent artists leveraging existing platforms. Entertainment spending continues to grow — humans have a boundless appetite for entertainment. The game industry alone is now larger than the music and film industries. Gaming companies that are able to receive venture funding are, anecdotally, led by creative people, not technologists.

In the way that social media was a harbinger of how the web would evolve 15 years ago, whatever the kids are doing these days (TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitch, OnlyFans) are clues as to what will become valuable in the future and how entertainment will evolve.

People increasingly crave experiences, not things. Anybody raising a child today would be foolish not to bias their education slightly more in favor of drawing, music, and theater over math olympiads, coding boot camps, and science.
if this isnt parody, its serious cut n paste gold :) :)

"let them become famous artistes!"
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noddy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:00 pm
if this isnt parody, its serious cut n paste gold :) :)

"let them become famous artistes!"
:lol: :lol:

Yeah!

"Let them eat Play-Doh sculptures of cake!"

"Rembrandt, Schembrandt! Let show you what I can do with PhotoShop!"

My brother once took a picture of his buddy's head and posted it on the body of a lamb, with the caption "Sheep Rick." The local convenient store owner put it under the plate of glass on the counter top by the cash register. The next time his friend Rick came in there he saw it and went Ballistic!

Now that is blending technology and artistic creativity!!!!
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A former co-worker once told how his family was one of the first in his area to raise chickens. His father told him he would have to build a chicken coop. So he got online, did a bunch of research, and down loaded the plans.

Then he had the family Butler build it!
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Simple Minded wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:06 pm A former co-worker once told how his family was one of the first in his area to raise chickens. His father told him he would have to build a chicken coop. So he got online, did a bunch of research, and down loaded the plans.

Then he had the family Butler build it!
Let me guess -- the Butler was white supremacist ? Butler Build Better !!!!

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Apollonius wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:00 pm
The terrifying scourge of ‘multiracial whiteness’[/b] - Cockburn, The Spectator, 18 January 2021
https://spectator.us/topic/terrifying-s ... whiteness/



The Washington Post reveals why so many ‘white supremacists’ are in fact not white. It’s scary



... The Washington Post is here to explain all the bad think away. Over the weekend, the paper ran a piece by NYU history professor Cristina Beltrán: ‘To understand Trump’s support, we must think in terms of multiracial Whiteness.’

Multiracial…whiteness? Aren’t those antonyms? Not at all, you fool. Beltrán explains: ‘Rooted in America’s ugly history of white supremacy, indigenous dispossession and anti-blackness, multiracial whiteness is an ideology invested in the unequal distribution of land, wealth, power and privilege — a form of hierarchy in which the standing of one section of the population is premised on the debasement of others. Multiracial whiteness reflects an understanding of whiteness as a political color and not simply a racial identity — a discriminatory worldview in which feelings of freedom and belonging are produced through the persecution and dehumanization of others.’

See? Sloppy reporting has left everyone tragically confused. When the Post calls Trump supporters white, it’s not talking about their actual skin color. It’s just calling them evil. But the path of unrighteousness is open to all. Beltrán warns that those born brown may fall to whiteness by embracing the evil path of…’colorblind individualism’.
Thanks for posting Apollonius. The never ending parade of identifying other people as herd animals is getting too rich. Competition to outwoke your competitors is fierce!

As Thomas Sowell said "Some things are so ridiculous, only an intellectual can believe them!"

I'm hip. I now self-identify as a unemployed, 22 year old, black, lesbian, Hooters waitress!!!!

On the plus side, soon recognizing another person's self-identity will be seen as a badge of bigotry, so it is a self-correcting process.
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noddy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:00 pm
Zack Morris wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:24 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:04 am
Zack Morris wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:02 am
Colonel Sun wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:04 am
Zack Morris wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am

Sounds like you just described the "red pill" crowd to a tee.

If one were educating a child today in a developed country, I would advise them to pursue the arts as a major, STEM as a minor. The future belongs to those with imagination and a passion for life.
Presumes that the arts have a lock on "imagination" and a "passion for life".

In the West, my own anecdotal observation is the opposite is the case.

I find it interesting that every scientist I know has some artistic talent: most play a musical instrument, some paint, a few even sculpt.

On the other hand, when it comes to art majors, they are typically less informed about science than a bevy of swans.
Of course, there are notable exceptions.
Technology is a commodity now. The value add comes from imagining interesting ways to apply technology and it is the creative types who are the most valuable and influential. Engineers and scientists have become hyper specialized and product ideas are increasingly being driven by people who shun that label.
Can you provide concrete examples to back up your claims or are these vapid assertions?
That artistic and creative ability are major value drivers? I can give a concrete example: Apple, Facebook, Google, and to a lesser extent Microsoft are locked in a fierce but largely still invisible (to the public) competition to bring a particular technology to market. It will become part of your daily life in the same way smart phones have. Technologically, these will be perhaps the most sophisticated consumer products ever produced. The departments working on them have had almost unlimited budgets at their disposal and account for a dominant share of new technology development at some of these firms.

Yet these departments also staff an enormous number of artists, technical artists, and designers in key roles. They’re necessary not only to conceptualize the user experience but also find themselves valuable for being able to visualize concepts and communicate them to stakeholders. The physicists, programmers, electrical and mechanical engineers are mostly sequestered on hyper focused projects, while the creative folks liaise, brainstorm, ideate, and most importantly, persuade. A lot of these folks are being pulled from the gaming and film industries, interestingly.

Outside of big companies, there’s been an explosion of independent artists leveraging existing platforms. Entertainment spending continues to grow — humans have a boundless appetite for entertainment. The game industry alone is now larger than the music and film industries. Gaming companies that are able to receive venture funding are, anecdotally, led by creative people, not technologists.

In the way that social media was a harbinger of how the web would evolve 15 years ago, whatever the kids are doing these days (TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitch, OnlyFans) are clues as to what will become valuable in the future and how entertainment will evolve.

People increasingly crave experiences, not things. Anybody raising a child today would be foolish not to bias their education slightly more in favor of drawing, music, and theater over math olympiads, coding boot camps, and science.
if this isnt parody, its serious cut n paste gold :) :)

"let them become famous artistes!"
Indeed.

The pointy-hair manager in the comic strip "Dilbert" comes to mind.

In other words, we seem to have a failure to communicate and understand what "concrete" means.

Let's have a concrete look:

Google | Current full-time job listing

Lots of jobs involving project management, engineering, software development, accounting, finance, sales, etc.

Saw one for "visual designer".

No listings for artistes.
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a quick check of EA games, which is the second biggest, globally hiring mega corp in modern gaming.

10,000 employees, mostly disposable, hired and sacked in development cycles, spread across the entire planet.

thats not even a percent of a percent, spread across the entire western world - old factories in shitsville towns used to employ simmilar amounts , all from the local population.

ive worked in the computer industry my whole life, the one thing all my colleagues have agreed on is to stay away from games and movies - its a burn and churn industry which hires young people with heads full of romanticism and exploits their hope till they give up.
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noddy wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:36 am a quick check of EA games, which is the second biggest, globally hiring mega corp in modern gaming.

10,000 employees, mostly disposable, hired and sacked in development cycles, spread across the entire planet.

thats not even a percent of a percent, spread across the entire western world - old factories in shitsville towns used to employ simmilar amounts , all from the local population.

ive worked in the computer industry my whole life, the one thing all my colleagues have agreed on is to stay away from games and movies - its a burn and churn industry which hires young people with heads full of romanticism and exploits their hope till they give up.
Not unlike the anime/manga industry in Japan.
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Quit shitting on our new President's assertion that even coal miners could learn to code. It's all about Unity now, dammit.
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crashtech66 wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:00 am Quit shitting on our new President's assertion that even coal miners could learn to code. It's all about Unity now, dammit.
Amen. Realists telling Idealists to abandon all hope of escaping into permanent virtual reality is insensitive at the least and probably racist, sexist, and ageist!

Lets see how much the elite artists are laughing when displaced Keystone Pipeline Roughnecks start taking their jobs!

We should focus on common ground. Like how now everyone is eligible to play Middle School girls field hockey!!!! :)
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WSJ | Taking stock of a most violent year
Some blamed the mayhem on the pandemic, but persistent cop-bashing emboldened criminals.

By Heather Mac Donald
WJS | Jan. 24, 2021 5:05 pm ET

The year 2020 likely saw the largest percentage increase in homicides in American history. Murder was up nearly 37% in a sample of 57 large and medium-size cities. Based on preliminary estimates, at least 2,000 more Americans, most of them black, were killed in 2020 than in 2019. Mainstream media and many politicians claim the pandemic caused this bloodbath, but the chronology doesn’t support that assertion. And now the criminal-justice policies supported by President Biden promise to exacerbate the current crime wave, while ignoring its actual causes.

The local murder increases in 2020 were startling: 95% in Milwaukee, 78% in Louisville, Ky., 74% in Seattle, 72% in Minneapolis, 62% in New Orleans, and 58% in Atlanta, according to data compiled by crime analyst Jeff Asher. Dozens of children, overwhelmingly black, were killed in drive-by shootings. They were slain in their beds, living rooms and strollers. They were struck down at barbecues, in their yards, in malls, in their parents’ cars, and at birthday parties. Fifty-five children were killed in Chicago in 2020, 17 in St. Louis, and 11 in Philadelphia. In South Los Angeles alone, 40 children were shot, some non-lethally, through September.

Why this mayhem? The St. Louis Post-Dispatch expresses the conventional wisdom: because of the “economic, civic and interpersonal stress” from the coronavirus pandemic. Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot blamed pandemic-related “frustration, anger . . . trauma and mental health challenges.” But crime fell during the first months of the pandemic shutdowns, both in the U.S. and globally. Only at the end of May did that trend reverse itself, and only in the U.S., thanks to a surge in drive-by shootings.

Eighteen people were murdered in Chicago on May 31—the city’s most violent day in six decades, according to University of Utah law professor Paul Cassell. Other American cities saw similar spikes in mayhem, all tied to the street violence unleashed by the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis on May 25. The political and media response to Floyd’s death amplified the existing narrative that policing was lethally racist. The ensuing riots received little condemnation from Democratic leaders and a weak response from the criminal-justice system.

Cops now face a poisonous environment. Since the summer, they have been shot in the head, firebombed and assaulted with lethal projectiles. An officer providing first aid at a crime scene may be met with a hail of rocks and bottles. Resistance is now the norm. Officers believe they face a political and legal environment that is eager to sacrifice them in the name of racial justice.

As a result, the calculus for engagement has changed. An Oakland, Calif., officer who has arrested dozens of known murderers and gang members over his career tells me he is scared for the first time, “not because the criminals are necessarily more violent, even though they are.” But if he has to use force on a resisting suspect, he could lose his career, his life, or his liberty, he says. A “simple cost-benefit analysis” recommends simply responding to calls for service and collecting a paycheck. “All cops now understand this.”

“Every day you have to decide whether to get out of your patrol car and do something or do nothing,” a veteran Chicago detective reports. If you opt for real police work, you may end up in jail or without a job if an interaction goes off script.

“Proactive police work is dead,” says Lt. Bob Kroll of the Minneapolis Police Department. The data bear him out. In Minneapolis, police stops fell more than 50% over the summer. The number of police-civilian contacts plummeted in Philadelphia, Oakland, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles and elsewhere. Across the country, specialized police units that got guns off the street were disbanded, since they were said to have a disparate impact on African-Americans. Police chiefs and prosecutors have refused to enforce low-level quality-of-life laws for the same reason.

The consequence: More gang members are carrying guns, since their chances of being stopped are slim. They are enthusiastically killing each other and innocent bystanders out of opportunism, not economic deprivation or existential angst.

The anarchy of 2020 has continued into 2021. Shootings in South Los Angeles rose 742% in the first two weeks of the year. In Oakland, homicides were up 500% and shootings up 126% through Jan. 17. In New York, murders were up 42% and shooting victims up 15% through Jan. 17. Carjackings, already up 135% in Chicago in 2020, are spilling into the city’s suburbs. On Jan. 16, a woman was pulled from her car in Aurora, Ill., and shot in the back by carjackers who had already stolen two vehicles earlier that day [Bloody hell, that's where the club I rowed out of on the Fox Fiver was located - in once safe and staid Far West suburbia]. Four other Chicago suburbs were hit that weekend. In Chicago proper, there have been 144 carjackings through Jan. 21, with 166 guns recovered.

Mr. Biden’s presidency augurs no turnaround. During the campaign, he claimed without justification that African-Americans rightly feared that their loved ones could be killed by a cop every time they stepped outside. His criminal-justice blueprint promises to eliminate racial disparities in law enforcement. Given vast racial disparities in the commission of crimes, that can be done only by eliminating law enforcement itself.

Nevertheless, the Biden Justice Department will treat disparate stop or arrest rates as evidence of police bias and seek to put as many police departments as possible under costly consent decrees. It will even try to extend its oversight authority to local prosecutors’ offices, should district attorneys generate racially disparate charging data (an inevitability, in light of the reality of crime).

The Biden policing agenda is based on a false conceit, however. In 2020 the police killed 15 unarmed African-Americans and 21 unarmed whites, according to the Washington Post’s database of fatal police shootings. The Post defines “unarmed” to include suspects fleeing the cops in stolen cars who attempted further carjackings en route, who then appeared to threaten the pursuing officer with a gun, and who violently resisted arrest. Those 15 “unarmed” blacks will represent 0.17% of all black homicide deaths in 2020, assuming a black murder toll of about 8,600 victims in 2020, as seems probable.

The police aren’t the problem in the black community, criminals are. The many law-abiding residents of troubled areas know this and beg for vigorous law enforcement. High-profile homicide trials of police officers will take place this year in Minneapolis, Atlanta, Louisville and Rochester, N.Y. If there are acquittals, more riots—followed by an even greater shooting surge—seem likely. It is urgent that public officials stop demonizing the police.

Ms. Mac Donald is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and author of “The War on Cops.”
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