Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:40 pm
Q and Qanons were two entirely different things, Doc.
Q was a single 8chan account. It primarily posted questions about current events, mostly challenges to the mainstream narrative.
Qanons were various accounts who speculated on what Q posted.
That just shows how little I payed attention.Look at it this way Nap. How many of 'Q''s or Qannon prediction came true? Huber ? Sessions? Durhamn? "trust the plan" doesn't seem much of a plan when none of its implied goals work out.
13% of Americans believe a man has never walked on the moon I don't know how many believe that 911 was an inside job. And what 50% of Americans believe that Trump is an agent of putin? This is normal people try to rationalize things where there is a lack of real information Then you have rumors and even politicians making stuff up out of whole cloth. Look at Adam Schiff He went for years going on MSNBC and CNN claiming he had more than circumstantial evidence that Trump Colluded with Russia. Then the Republicans force the release of his "secret testimony" Out of 53 witnesses ZERO had any knowledge of any evidence that Trump Colluded with Russia. But even after that complete lack of even knowledge of evidence people still believe that Trump Colluded with Russia.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... a-colluded
Almost half in new poll still say Trump, Russia colluded
By John Bowden - 03/27/19 07:21 AM EDT
The reason this happens is because people rationalize the world they see. If there are gaps in knowledge the brain fills in the gaps. It is a survival strategy that is hard wired into our brains. If 100,000 years ago one of our ancestors was say in a jungle with limited viability. Maybe that shape over there a few feet away is a Tiger. No way to be sure based on what he could see. But the brain rationalizes to make sense out of the information it has.
These are not the specific example I wanted to post, but they may get my point across
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In the Second video Hammer VS saw. the subject doesn't rationalize why he drew a hammer but I suspect it is because he already understands the trick.So when he is asked why he drew a saw when his left brain saw the hammer (that controls language) he says "I don't know"
In the Video I would rather have posted it is an blue bird and an orange.
With his left hand he selects an orange pencil and draws an orange. Then looks confused. The research asked him what he drew and the subject replies "I wanted to draw an orange bird but I don't know how to draw a bird"
The researcher then tells him to finish with his right hand. SO he picks up the pencil and finishes the drawing making the orange into an orange bird.
He rationalized a story to explain his actions. Even though his left brain saw a blue Bird he ended up drawing an orange bird
Now think about what happens when you use a search on a search engine. You aren't exactly sure what you are looking for specifically just in general terms. You are searching because you are not clear on the facts. You are missing information
The most notable example is the 2016 election but it could be anything.
You search for "Hillary Clinton" and the auto search fill fills in links to positive articles about Hillary Clinton (This has already been well documented that Hillary received an additional 2.4 million votes than should would have otherwise is why I am using this example)
If you typed in Donald Trump the auto search fill suggestions are all negative stories about Trump
What they are doing is training your brain to rationalize in a way that meets THEIR GOALS.
20 years ago they were at level of predicting the prime moment to try to sell someone a give type of product.
I bought my son a learning game for 7 years olds. I was furious when I found it contained a web bug to collect metrics from children using it. I found the company that made that web bug and found they're was the one I mentioned just above. But it wasn't just aimed at my son. The web bug installed as a separate program with the install of the learning software that continuously ran in the back ground.
But it just collected metrics The modern version is to actually influence how people actually rationalize by presenting information to fill in the gaps.
Someone sees a complex issue that they aren't really sure about what the hell is going on. When they search for missing information without interference it doesn't mean they are going to come to a rationalization fits the real world HOWEVER they have a better chance of finding the missing information to rationalize with if no one is presenting them with disinformation that could fit the rationalization.
This stuff is a lot older than the internet. But Google Facebook Amazon etc .. all employ large numbers of behavior psychologists for a reason.
In fact when Google first started using behavioral psychologists Google search advertisement (or as they say in Brasil propaganda)profits increased by
30 times over night. That was a year or two after they proclaimed their company motto to be "Do no Evil"
I don't recall and I never knew all the "details" put forward in Pizzagate. But I do have a good idea how it started. John Podesta's emails and the seemingly sexual erotic statues he had in his house of young men Plus the pictures of the children in Comet(?) Pizza. Pictures like a little girl with her arms taped to a table with masking tape. People started taking that as child sex grooming. There were others as well. The pictures were somewhat odd but didn't have to mean anything.
There were a whole series of things like that. Podesta also had a kinda of weird way of joking about pizza.
People tried to make sense of it. So their brains rationalized what their eyes were seeing. I am sure there was more to it than the above. I didn't pay all that much attention as I saw it as a big waste of time.
Anyway that is basically how this kind of things starts. Seems like more intelligent people fall for them as they tend to have bigger imaginations. But I have seen people that believe things like professional wrestling are real. And there is no talking them out of their beliefs.
I used to believe in aliens visits of the earth. Then I figured out, I guess when I was about 19 or 20, that only green bug eyed aliens were coming to north American and Aryan looking aliens were going to Europe. I have been a cynic ever since about most things that are short on details.