noddy wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:10 am
Simple Minded wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:45 pm
Easily prevented by a little bit of parenting while they are children. But a significant number of parents don't feel the need to instill civilized behavior in their yutes these days.
this is the current state of the modern argument, the other bits are history.
so the trick is, do you just keep shooting ghetto kids or do you try and reduce their ghettoness, and how does one reduce their ghettoness without getting into stolen generations and cultural genocide (tm)
its all much simpler if you stick to the keep shooting em till they learn angle but a heap of folks are uncomfortable with that.
personally, I have no idea on the subject - these things bubble away until they dont , except its probably not going to be shooting that fixes it.
Current state of the art thinking in Merika boils down to two schools.
The first group believes that people are individuals with free will and control of their destinies.
Second group believes that "their group" (Whites, blacks, lefties, righties, etc.) are herd animals with no control over their thoughts or behavior, but are always steered and/or victimized by the irroestiable influence of "society."
To the second group, blacks shooting blacks is fine, whites shooting blacks or whites is bad (therefore we need more gun control), and blacks shooting whites is payback (why should anyone object).
To the first group, skin color/group identity is irrelevant, and the question is "Why did Fred do what he did to Joe?"
The first group are much more effective problem solvers.
Belonging to the second group is more lucrative and gets you more power and larger internet followings.
The girl who recently got shot by the cop while she was in the process of trying to stab another girl is a textbook example. The cop car rolls up, neither the cop nor the car are invisible, she decides to move in front of the cop to try to kill another person in broad daylight, while shouting "I'm gonna stab the f**k out of you Bitch!"
Not sure I have the knowledge or resources to "fix" that person's hard drive or software. Get enough of them together and you have a localized mini-culture.
What does the existence of that mini-culture in a nation of 300+ million people, and millions of other mini-cultures say about the fact that we lack an all controlling culture?
I think you might have hit on a viable solution in the other thread with govt sponsored voluntary isolation chambers with free bread and circuses. Out of sight, out of mind. Worked for their parents.....