wasnt thinking you didnt, just felt my previous speil wasnt concise enough or clear enough.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:04 amyeah, I'm agreeing with all that.noddy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:52 am most are depressed and traumatised, all have horror stories.
to clarify my point earlier - lawless gangs who kill with impunity, will absolutely kill for racist reasons, they will also kill for a nice pair of shoes.
to pin this stuff on racism, or homophobia or any of the other middle class western obsessions is missing the glaring point - they have reasons to kill anyone they feel like killing.
I'd do one better (as you've already pointed out) they are more likely to kill for a pair of shoes than for whatever racial fantasies go on in their heads.
But I just wanted to point out that it's a failed place on all sorts of levels starting with a lack of cooperation.
afaik, before the Europeans started slaughtering everybody, the Zulu were busy doing it.
their is no "white people" on any level, their is still scots and english and french and germans.
"white people" is an interesting thing in many ways - for all that people laugh at its generic minimalist culture, it does represent whats left when tribes give up what makes them unique.
spengler put it down to some american mysticism, which was wank, same thing happened in canada and australia and new zealand with far less fanfare.
the EU is an attempt to make it happen back in the motherland, from what I can tell their is no real way of forcing it to happen.
the other thing they face is something that crosses all boundaries "white people" donty really give a lavender about eachother anyway, its not like the rich are falling over themselves to make the rednecks lives amazing.