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Re: The Iran Thread
Iran and Russia in conflict over Azerbaijan would be like a Christmas present for Mosche. ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
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Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
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Re: The Iran Thread
Alexis wrote:.Such "Azerbaijan Anschluss" ideas fly in the face of two realities:AzariLoveIran wrote:.
Iran might give Ilham a pushing hand
"Anschluss"
Baku, here we come
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The treaty confirmed inclusion of modern day Azerbaijan, Daghestan and Eastern Georgia into the Russian Empire.
- Iranian Army having only small armored forces
- Russia having very significant, battle-hardened armored forces, and a demonstrated will to use them when provoked. Ask Georgia's Saakashvili about it
If Iranian government was foolish enough to attack Azerbaijan, two things would happen:
- They would get their back part handed to them by the Russian Army
- Israeli and American leaderships would be in serious danger of dying by laughter !
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Alexis
you misunderstand the whole thing
Iran does not want to attack anybody , has not last 500 yrs
Iranian provinces "Shirvan & Arran" same people as Iranian Azarbaijan last 5000 yrs
like saying Austria wants to attack Italy to capture Sud Tyrol
Those people will revolt against Mossad & CIA cronies .. and .. as Iraqi Shia did .. look to Iran
In Iraq case, we not quite same people
but
in Shirvan & Arran case , we same people last 5000 yrs
as said, similar to Sud Tyrol
Not only Iran, but the people of Shirva and Arran want to come back to their brothers and sisters
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Ask Georgia's Saakashvili ? ?
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Who the genuflect is Georgia's Saakashvili ? ?
BTW .. FYI , Ossetian Iranians
Question is whether Putin would rather have CIA (and Mossad), another American military base encircling Russia as neighbor or Ahmadinejat.
The Ossetian language is part of the Eastern Iranian branch of the Indo-European languages family.
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You bet the farm he prefers Ahmadinejat
Enki wrote:.
Iran and Russia in conflict over Azerbaijan would be like a Christmas present for Mosche.
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" head of the Political Situation Center, the head of the Caspian Cooperation Institute, Sergey Mikheev, comments on the situation around Iran " : Sergey Mikheev: “Attacking Iran, the US attacks Russia”
Russia wants a "stable and strong" buffer zone in the south .. and not an enemy
meaning Russia would not tolerate CIA and American bases and military in Caucasus
Only reason Russia not genuflecting all those western cronies in Baku and Tbilisi, is, Russia now gathering strength .. once Russia strong enough .. BANG
Notion, Russia would go to war with Iran for Azerbaijan coming back home is naive .. Russia would rather see Iran than Americans take over Azarbaijan .. that would be lasting for 100s of yrs
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Re: The Iran Thread
IISS | Strait of Hormuz: Iran's disruptive military options
Could Iran shut the Strait of Hormuz, or significantly hinder traffic passing through it? A recent decision by the European Union to impose a total embargo on the purchase of Iranian oil has prompted threats from Tehran to close the world's most important oil chokepoint. However, an assessment of military capabilities deployed in the area, and of probable tactics, suggests that Iran would find it difficult or unpalatable to cause major disruption.
According to the United States Energy Information Administration, 17 million barrels of oil passed through the strait every day in 2011, or about 35% of all seaborne traded oil. Iran itself is heavily dependent on oil flowing through the strait: approximately 70% of the government's revenues come from oil exports, all of which currently transit the strait. Iran has no pipelines to its Indian Ocean ports or to countries to its east.
In late 2011 and early 2012, the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy and Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Navy conducted Velayat-90, a series of exercises that focused on sea denial. Although Iran possesses capabilities that could, at least temporarily, disrupt shipping, it seems unlikely that it would be able to close the strait for a prolonged period.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
Re: The Iran Thread
Typhoon wrote:.
IISS | Strait of Hormuz: Iran's disruptive military options
.Could Iran shut the Strait of Hormuz, or significantly hinder traffic passing through it? A recent decision by the European Union to impose a total embargo on the purchase of Iranian oil has prompted threats from Tehran to close the world's most important oil chokepoint. However, an assessment of military capabilities deployed in the area, and of probable tactics, suggests that Iran would find it difficult or unpalatable to cause major disruption.
According to the United States Energy Information Administration, 17 million barrels of oil passed through the strait every day in 2011, or about 35% of all seaborne traded oil. Iran itself is heavily dependent on oil flowing through the strait: approximately 70% of the government's revenues come from oil exports, all of which currently transit the strait. Iran has no pipelines to its Indian Ocean ports or to countries to its east.
In late 2011 and early 2012, the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy and Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Navy conducted Velayat-90, a series of exercises that focused on sea denial. Although Iran possesses capabilities that could, at least temporarily, disrupt shipping, it seems unlikely that it would be able to close the strait for a prolonged period.
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If Iran is kept from Exporting oil, no oil will pass through Hormoz .. many ways doing this .. does not even need a military blockage .. just anouncing that any tanker in Hormuz could be hit by a rocket will make those tanker uninsurable .. a modern VLCC (or ULCC) caries minimum of 3.5 million barrels of Oil = $ 350 million of Oil, plus, cost of tanker ($ 150 m) = $ 500 hit
but, That is where Iran is going to hit next .. if so, 1.2 m b/d will be cut
that's where the next hit will come.
Azerbaijan's attitude is viewed with strong suspicion by Tehran's ruling elite, which may resort to offensive measures inside Azerbaijan to retaliate against Israeli aggression.
In such a scenario, Azerbaijan would be put on a state of alert, scaring energy investors, and thus introducing economic hardship to an already weak and fragile economy that counts on regional peace to advance its "pipeline" politics.
This could also have adverse effects for European energy security, now slightly edging toward insecurity due to the European decision to embargo Iranian oil, thus making Europe ever-more dependent on Russia, a main supplier of European energy, a true nightmare scenario for all European politicians.
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my suspicion is Russia has a hand in all this
If Azerbaijan is destabilized, if so, then gas and pipeline planed to take central Asia Oil & Gas under Caspian Sea through Azerbaijan become non viable .. only Russian network will be only game in town
In that sense, Putin and Iran, friends
unless
Barak Hussein jettisons that monkey on his back and head to Tehran for the Grand Bargain
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funny , but makes sense
these were not meant to kill .. Zionist impersonated CIA officers, now they impersonating terrorist hitting their own to blame Iran
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Re: The Iran Thread
Pop goes the weasel. Caught bang to rights. Didn't have a leg to stand on.
Re: The Iran Thread
He could work for the Iranian regime, or he could be anti-regime, such as the MEK, which has been rumored to be behind the terrorist attacks in Iran and supported by Israel.
The latest incidents look suspiciously like the Lavon Affair.
If it really is the Iranians, it wouldn't surprise me; but if it were the Israelis or their pals, it wouldn't surprise me either.
The latest incidents look suspiciously like the Lavon Affair.
If it really is the Iranians, it wouldn't surprise me; but if it were the Israelis or their pals, it wouldn't surprise me either.
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Re: The Iran Thread
Thank you Very Much for your post, Sparky.Sparky wrote:Pop goes the weasel. Caught bang to rights. Didn't have a leg to stand on.
Good one!
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But AIUI, technically, he did have "a" leg to stand on; just not 2 legs.......
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FWIW, presuming things are as they seem, there is a de facto State of Assasination between Iran and Israel..............
What a shame.............
Remember the OLD days when Israel and Iran were friends...........when G_d put his stamp of approval on the Persian Shah............ When Iran helped build the Second Temple........... When a Jewish girls won the Royal beauty contests to become a real princesses/queen............ Too bad that a bad guy was hanging
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Hope this does.......
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For the love of G_d, consider you & I may be mistaken.
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Turkey Sticking with Iranian Oil
Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.
Seems Iran is no longer stuck
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Here's a link you will probably like............
And US/Obama/Israel probably not..........
Seems Iran won this round/battle of the game/war
But if sanctions don't work..........Exclusive: Turkey sticks with Iran oil after Saudi talks
By Humeyra Pamuk and Evrim Ergin
DUBAI/ISTANBUL | Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:14am EST
(Reuters) - Turkey has no plans to cut its imports of Iranian oil, remaining a rare loyal customer of Tehran despite rising pressure from international sanctions and initial signals it may buy more Saudi oil, Turkish and Saudi sources told Reuters. .............
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The Best Laid Plans of Men, Monkeys & Pigs Oft Go Awry
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Re: The Iran Thread
Get a load of this Azari...
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/01/05/is-ir ... ly-wealth/
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http://www.aolnews.com/2010/01/05/is-ir ... ly-wealth/
Is Iran's Spiritual Leader Awash in Earthly Wealth?
LONDON (Jan. 5) -- Iran's supreme leader, Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, likes to portray himself as a simple man of faith, interested only in spiritual -- not material -- wealth. But an exiled Iranian filmmaker says that behind this frugal front, Khamenei luxuriates in an opulent lifestyle supported by an ill-gained fortune of about $30 billion.
Celebrated director and Iranian opposition spokesman Mohsen Makhmalbaf laid out his exhaustive evidence of Khamenei's highlife on his personal Web site (a translated version can be read here), after interviewing ex-Intelligence Ministry officials and former Khamenei household employees who have fled abroad.
His sources say that since the early 1980s -- Khamenei was president from 1981 to '89 -- the supreme leader has gained control of the Iranian economy by granting key positions to family members and close allies. His brother Hassan, for example, oversees the Oil Ministry, a brother-in-law has a monopoly on imports of Sony electrical equipment, and the father of one of his daughters-in-law handles the state's land sales.
A prominent dissident researcher says Iran's supreme leader, Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has amassed a great fortune at his people's expense.
Makhmalbaf alleges that Iran's leading man of faith -- whom opposition protesters accuse of rigging last summer's re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- used these connections to siphon off $12 billion in commissions from oil sales, $2 billion from land deals and $6 billion from the arms business. Ahmadinejad has also allegedly handed him $10 billion over the past four years.
The Khamenei clan tops the family fortune with other smart money-making schemes. Communal prayer sessions are held in the supreme leader's house up to four times a week, and five guests are allowed to join in. But being led in prayer by the supreme leader doesn't come cheap: Guests, who Makhmalbaf says are frequently bazaar traders, pay about $500,000 each to take part. At the end of prayers, he claims, the traders receive valuable business tips from the cleric.
Only a small chunk of Khamenei's treasure is sitting in Iranian accounts. Presumably afraid that he'll lose his retirement fund if he were ever ousted in a revolution, the supreme leader has spread the majority of his hoard among foreign banks in Russia, Syria, China, Britain and a host of other countries, according to Makhmalbaf.
But while Khamenei may be a careful saver, he has also splashed his cash on a glut of earthly delights. Makhmalbaf says the cleric's bulging bank balance has allowed him to purchase a private transport fleet -- he owns eight planes (including two 140-seater Boeing 707s), five helicopters and more than 1,200 cars -- run six palaces, and indulge in several unusual and costly hobbies.
Makhmalbaf's sources say Khamenei has built up a $1.2 million collection of 170 antique canes, including a 170-year-old jewel-encrusted walking stick worth $200,000. And after swapping cigarettes for a tobacco pipe in 1981 (he thought cigarettes looked unpresidential), Khamenei started collecting pipes. He now owns 200 of them, Makhmalbaf says, worth an estimated $2 million.
I don't buy supremacy
Media chief
You menace me
The people you say
'Cause all the crime
Wake up motherfucker
And smell the slime
Media chief
You menace me
The people you say
'Cause all the crime
Wake up motherfucker
And smell the slime
Re: The Iran Thread
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Hans ,
Don't waste your time and eyesight reading/watching/listening to (so called) Iranian opposition outside of Iran .. dime a dozen .. all colors and shape .. they all on somebodies payroll or wannabee or fools
they all BS
Acid test for Iranian opposition is being in Iran .. anything else is rubbish
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Hans
Iranian economy is controlled by "Iranian Revolutionary Guard" .. people's Army .. all
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Hans ,
Don't waste your time and eyesight reading/watching/listening to (so called) Iranian opposition outside of Iran .. dime a dozen .. all colors and shape .. they all on somebodies payroll or wannabee or fools
they all BS
Acid test for Iranian opposition is being in Iran .. anything else is rubbish
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Hans
Iranian economy is controlled by "Iranian Revolutionary Guard" .. people's Army .. all
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Re: The Iran Thread
I thought you might like that.
I know its all bullshit. It was amusing to read though...
8 planes!
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I know its all bullshit. It was amusing to read though...
8 planes!
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I don't buy supremacy
Media chief
You menace me
The people you say
'Cause all the crime
Wake up motherfucker
And smell the slime
Media chief
You menace me
The people you say
'Cause all the crime
Wake up motherfucker
And smell the slime
Re: The Iran Thread
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Lots of emails circulating, pretty much all writen by Mujahedin Khalgh (people's Mujahedin) assholes, that give bank account # and name of the bank and how much mad mullahs have in their account in London and and and
In the height of dispute with London, when London was freezing even Iranian central bank money, the idiots were saying Khamnei son has xx Billion in London bank
Garbage
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L.A. Times ... Most people in the Arab world, according to opinion polls, believe that the Holocaust never happened, that it's a Jewish invention and trick to win the world's sympathy and support.
true , Arabs think this way
that is why Ahmadienjat said this thing need an "independent" , unbiased , research
European did it .. they not unbiased
Zionist cooperated with Nazi .. they not unbiased
Jews were victim .. they not unbiased
Arabs victimized by Zionist dumping on them all that stuff .. they no unbiased
Only one left is our beloved Iran that gave refuge, housed, fed the Hebrew tribe last 2600 yrs
Iranians must study this atrocities done by born again champions of human rights
cpP7b2lUxVE
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Hans Bulvai wrote:I thought you might like that.
I know its all bullshit. It was amusing to read though...
8 planes!
Lots of emails circulating, pretty much all writen by Mujahedin Khalgh (people's Mujahedin) assholes, that give bank account # and name of the bank and how much mad mullahs have in their account in London and and and
In the height of dispute with London, when London was freezing even Iranian central bank money, the idiots were saying Khamnei son has xx Billion in London bank
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Garbage
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L.A. Times ... Most people in the Arab world, according to opinion polls, believe that the Holocaust never happened, that it's a Jewish invention and trick to win the world's sympathy and support.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
true , Arabs think this way
that is why Ahmadienjat said this thing need an "independent" , unbiased , research
European did it .. they not unbiased
Zionist cooperated with Nazi .. they not unbiased
Jews were victim .. they not unbiased
Arabs victimized by Zionist dumping on them all that stuff .. they no unbiased
Only one left is our beloved Iran that gave refuge, housed, fed the Hebrew tribe last 2600 yrs
Iranians must study this atrocities done by born again champions of human rights
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cpP7b2lUxVE
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Re: The Iran Thread
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A must watch
JUDGE NAPOLITANO FIRED AFTER THIS BROADCAST
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unbelievable FOX broadcasting this
Can not be accidental
Rhubarb, it ain't good
funny comments on same clip uTube site :
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A must watch
JUDGE NAPOLITANO FIRED AFTER THIS BROADCAST
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Something crazy happening.
Holy lavender... This information is not really a secret for those that read around sites like ATS and others, but I never imagined that talking about American and possibly Israeli false flag attacks and hinting that the war on terror is bogus on a mainstream news network would ever be allowed. It is definitely very very unusual that this type of information would come out of a major news network, on live TV.
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unbelievable FOX broadcasting this
Can not be accidental
Rhubarb, it ain't good
funny comments on same clip uTube site :
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Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta's Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel's diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or "order a hit" on Barack Obama. Either way, problem solved!
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@FreeSlave247 .. Yes, Zionist billionare Ronald Lauder (Estee Lauder cosmetics, funder of Mossad school) had to have Stewart AFB decommissioned in order to pull this off. His close buddies include Frank Lowy, Dov Zakheim and of course Lucky Larry Silverstein. The U.S. military should stage a coup d'etat and remove the complicit traitors running the shadow government.
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Re: The Iran Thread
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The Senate authorized the use of force against Iran.
The Senate authorized the use of force against Iran.
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
-Alexander Hamilton
Re: The Iran Thread
Enki wrote:.
nV1sk9mSJEY
The Senate authorized the use of force against Iran.
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Look, Tinker
Although we were watching daily TV news Zionist/Israel and their lobby here in US pushing America into attacking Iraq .. now .. Zionist and Jews denying everything, saying they did not push America into Iraq war
Result of America attacking Iraq was, America already with one foot out of Middle East and now losing in Afghanistan (America was winning in Iraq & Afghanistan as long as Iran was cooperating with America)
America should arrest these Zionist senators, like McCarthy did with communists .. Zionist bigger enemy of America than communists
These are Jewish lobby in Senate .. Senate as whole has not approved an attack on Iran
but
Iran not asking American senate what Iran can and can not have
Not only Shah, not only Ayatollahs, but Iranian people want to have nuclear technology .. AND .. Nuclear Bomb
Attack on Iran not so simple .. bombing this and that, yes, but that is when things start
Game played is world strategic .. Russia, China, India, Europe, South America, Africa all will be effected
Look folks ,
World changing, world in 30 yrs will not be same world as today
Only question is whether things should change "orderly" .. or .. chaotic and unpredictable
WW 2 changed the world .. Brits were somebody, they now nobody .. same thing could happen to America
America should wake up .. desperately a McCarthy-II needed now
This for Americans to decide
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Re: The Iran Thread
Joe McCarthy is one of the worst things to happen to America in American history. We need a second McCarthy like we need an Iranian suitcase nuke going off in the Empire State Building.
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
-Alexander Hamilton
Re: The Iran Thread
Radical hysterectomy .. metastasized .. McCarthy right remedyEnki wrote:.
Joe McCarthy is one of the worst things to happen to America in American history.
We need a second McCarthy like we need an Iranian suitcase nuke going off in the Empire State Building.
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Tinker,
not sure you watched this clip .. if you watched, just pick your city
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Surest way to have an Iranian suitcase nuke going off in the Empire State Building, is attacking Iran
Those days behind us .. military power same as "crack", gives you a "high" for a while, but aftermath is disaster
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Re: The Iran Thread
Agreed Azari
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
-Alexander Hamilton
Re: The Iran Thread
I knew you as a reasonable manEnki wrote:Agreed Azari
that is why I respect you
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Re: The Iran Thread
He doesn't say it is reasonable when Iranians let go off a nuke case in a US city. He might mean that from rabid Iranians such an evil act is to be expected.AzariLoveIran wrote:I knew you as a reasonable manEnki wrote:Agreed Azari
that is why I respect you.
Deep down I'm very superficial
Re: The Iran Thread
You mean America or anybody else dropping a nuke on our beloved Iran should remain without same ?Parodite wrote:.He doesn't say it is reasonable when Iranians let go off a nuke case in a US city. He might mean that from rabid Iranians such an evil act is to be expected.AzariLoveIran wrote:.I knew you as a reasonable manEnki wrote:.
Agreed Azari
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that is why I respect you.
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Rhapsy, you must let go of that "Frechheit" character of yours
Zionist can blackmail (but only so much) the Europeans .. but not the Iranians
Come a time, that redneck had it .. O boy O boy .. have merci lord .. have merci
and watch that video, good for you
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