AzariLoveIran wrote:Iran only finance, arm, moral and any other support the Shias of Lebanon .. and this is fully legit
Shia of Lebanon had nobody except Iran since 100 yrs .. FYI, Shah started this,1958 Shah send
Teymur Bakhtiar, head of Savak (Iranian secret service), to Lebanon to set up a support and help and arm the Lebanese Shia (an anti Sunni Saudi move) .. All Sunni Arabs fought the Shia (power) in Lebanon .. Sharon shook hand with Lebanese Christians not only against Palestinians but also against Shia of Lebanon .. Sharon rolled over their houses, killed them .. funny thing was, until that date, Shia of Lebanon where not even anti Israel (in some instances even pro Israel) .. you see now the result
When everybody was at each other's throat in Lebanon's civil war and especially the PLO terrorizing other communities included Shia communities in the South and the whole chain of bloody events unfolding, for Israel it was bad scenario that PLO and its allies would come out victorious. That would guarantee future lavender at the Northern borders. No matter the judgment with hindsight of going in, the idea to crush the PLO in South-Lebanon and throw the remainders out made sense as an idea, but in practice the reality in Lebanon was way to complex and unpredictable. They chose the Lebanese Christian factions as the only reliable ally which makes sense, also given that the Islamic revolution in Iran brought to the fore very strong anti-Zionist voices; an Islamic Iran that backed the Islamic Amal movement. So the inspiration to fight Israel not only in Southern-Lebanon in order to throw them out,
but also inside Israel proper came from the Ayatollah's in Iran who wanted to turn Lebanon in an Islamic proxy to roll-up Israel, that Zionist cancer, and spread (Shia) Islamic Empire further into the region.
Of course, given that Israel is not a small power and Sunni's in general wouldn't like that idea... this megalomaniac idea of the new Iranian Islamic regime to project Iran power en Empire.. was doomed to fail and get swamped down in South-Lebanon. All they could do over the years is twist arms in Lebanon to enforce themselves in Lebanon politics and deploy Hezbollah with 10.000's rockets aimed at Israeli cities. Benefit to Iran? Nil. Added the nuclear crisis and Iranian insistence and persistence in anti-Zionist (anti-Israel) hate speech.. all they are left with is sanctions and a possible war with Israel and good chance the USA. Bravo Iran! Such a wonderful success story.
back to Palestinians and Israel and accept the reality .. Look Rhapsy, Middle East has his own mentality, ME people do not accept forced reality .. no matter what, they will not accept it, they might keep quite for a while, but when times come, BANG
LOL that's funny. Because you are so right! Everything in the ME exists due to force, bloody force, guns, knives, blood.. endless streams of blood. The Zionists found this out too after they woke up from their milk and honey dreams of the promised land...and they just could not afford
not join the game... with the bloody rest. Everybody is forcing realities on everybody. And indeed it is BANG BANG BANG non stop. A true monkey town.
Zionist fooling themselves thinking they can bring all those Russian lavender, house them on Arab land and create "reality" .. could Tchingiz create reality ? he killed millions
A country can let in anybody they like, and refuse anybody they dislike. That is the definition of a territory. You may not like a territory, be of the opinion it should not even be there preferably be replaced by some other territorial configuration and
enforce that new reality on the old one (
), but as long as it is there and there to stay most likely... hysterical complaints are just a waste of time.
Force never worked in ME
It is
the force that shapes the ME reality.
That is what Persian empire learned
Pomegranates kept the empire intact for 1000+ yrs by Justice .. rule by justice not by sword .. that is Iranian moto
Yes, Iran can and will help, but help will not be genuflecting the indigini to sign on dotted line becuase Iran know this will not work
Iran helping Shia Muslim militia that adhere ideologically to the destruction of Israel and supplying them with rockets and training is a very big miscalculation that at one point will blow in Iran's face.
Parodite wrote:And of course Iran wants nukes... why wouldn't they? Israel has them.. Pakistan, India.. the hated West, Russia... There is absolutely no reason at all why Iran would not think it needs them. Who are they fooling ?
Said many times on this fora and elsewhere, all Iranians,
begining with Shah, Iranian people and Ayatollahs want nuclear weapon .. all Iranians want it .. and nobody can stop Iran .. either on friendly bases or unfriendly .. many foreign services say Iran already has nuclear weapon.
I'm happy we then agree that the Iranians are liars to the world.
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Iran honors it's signature .. Non proliferation nuclear treaty signature .. NPT
Iranians, present rulers, have said very clearly : Iran will have ALL technology, knowledge and and and for nuclear technocracy .. so that, if needed .. to make nuclear bomb in short order .. not now .. but if needed
Iran admitted openly it will "only create a nuclear bomb when needed"? That would be world news. URLs?
They
already need it, since the Ayatollah's took office and declared the Zionist entity a cancer that needed removed, Lebanon to be an Islamic proxy etc.
The curtain is falling.
So, Iranian, did not lie .. Iran will not accept any limit on nuclear technology .. same as japan, same as Germany or Brazil .. Iran has MORE rights as German and Japan have .. Period
Iran as far as I know, has not said it will have nuclear technology and make nuclear bombs when it is considered necessary on short notice. It said it does not want nuclear bombs, because they are considered immoral.
Of course, this is all just twisting words, flapping tongues and fooling the fools. Iran long ago decided it needs nuclear weapons and wants them asap. Homemade.
Notion, Iran not this and that and is not allowed to have this or that technology pure rubbish
Countries that prove to be responsible, reasonable, peace seeking/mediating countries... tend to be trusted with nuclear weapons by a majority of other countries.
No need for Iran to lie .. Iran said this from day one
So why are they lying? They are.
Rahpsy ,
shall we talk rubbish or fact base ?
I am here to help you.
Iran, Ahmadinejat .. and Azari .. say , have always said .. Israel following last 70 yrs methods will lead to same destiny as South African Apartheid regime .. like Apartheid South Africa (President carter confirmed the Apartheid of Zionist state) Israel too will disappear from map .. that is what Ahmadinejat said 5 yrs ago
AhmaJo is entitled to his opinions, as you are. Fortunately none of his business either. In Israel it is a hot debate; should Israel under all circumstances remain a Jewish-majority state? That is at odds with democracy and civil rights in case Israeli non-Jews breed faster than Jews. Israeli Jews may one day be able to relax and not fear becoming a minority in Israel.. but that is very far away. It needs a couple of generations that can live without war, occupation, terror attacks, hate-speech in the Arab world.. Israeli Jews
know they are hated... hated so much... That they are "damned if they do, and damned if they don't".
since 1980
Zionist leaders have said all in the book to Iran, every threat and lavender is thrown towards Iran
You reverse reality again: the Ayatollahs that started the Islamic revolution in Iran were from day one anti-Zionist/Israel, prefer to have Israel removed from the map and install (Shia) Islamic power in the region, deal with Sunni lavender in the mean...
Don't play the innocent sissy here. Looks pathetic.
