GOP leaders say erratic attacks hurt Trump, but he vows to fight and win
Republican leaders who have watched Donald Trump’s summer surge with alarm now believe that his presidential candidacy has been contained and may begin to collapse because of his repeated attacks on a Fox News Channel star and his refusal to pledge his loyalty to the eventual GOP nominee.
Fearful that the billionaire’s inflammatory rhetoric has inflicted serious damage to the GOP brand, party leaders hope to pivot away from the Trump sideshow and toward a more serious discussion among a deep field of governors, senators and other candidates.
They acknowledge that Trump’s unique megaphone and the passion of his supporters make any calculation about his candidacy risky. After all, he has been presumed dead before: Three weeks ago, he prompted establishment outrage by belittling the Vietnam war service of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), only to prove, by climbing higher in the polls, that the laws of political gravity did not apply to him.
Still, Trump’s erratic performance during and after the first Republican presidential debate last week sparked a backlash throughout the party Saturday and a reassessment of his front-running bid. The final straw for many was Trump’s comment on CNN late Friday that Fox moderator Megyn Kelly had “blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever.”
Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.), a fellow candidate, said Trump was jeopardizing the GOP’s chances of winning back the White House and urged party leaders to stop “tiptoeing” around him.
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The first primary debate on Fox attracted a record cable television audience of 24 million viewers and lent some clarity to a presidential race that has seemed hazy. It underscored former Florida governor Jeb Bush’s inability, at least so far, to excite the party’s grass roots and step fully into the role of the alpha candidate. It also marked the emergence of back-of-the-pack candidates, including Ohio Gov. John Kasich and former technology executive Carly Fiorina, as potential contenders.
The performances renewed the belief of many Republican leaders that the party has the strongest field in a generation, with several contenders capable of challenging Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton at a time when she appears increasingly vulnerable.
“What could come out of this debate is Republicans beginning to have a conversation about the ticket,” said Matthew Dowd, a former strategist for President George W. Bush. He said there was considerable chatter on Friday about pairing Kasich and Sen. Marco Rubio: old and young, white and Latino, executive and legislator, swing-state Ohio and swing-state Florida. “Maybe that’s the ticket.”
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In New York, meanwhile, Trump’s campaign was in turmoil as he parted ways with longtime adviser Roger Stone after weeks of quarreling over political strategy. Stone is the second top Trump adviser to leave in as many weeks.
The timeline and reason for Stone’s departure were under dispute. Trump said in an interview that he “fired” Stone on Friday night because he didn’t want “publicity seekers” working for his campaign and because he heard from other associates that Stone had been grumbling about Trump’s behavior and refusal to heed his advice in the debate.
But Stone said in an interview that he had quit and was not fired. In a resignation letter to Trump obtained by The Post, Stone expressed regret for ending a “close relationship” that dates to the 1980s but said that “current controversies involving personalities and provocative media fights have reached such a high volume that it has distracted attention from your platform and overwhelmed your core message. . . . I can no longer remain involved in your campaign.”
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In an interview Saturday, Erickson said Trump’s remarks about Kelly — a favorite of conservatives and a colleague of his at the network where he works as a contributor — woke up the “sleeping giants” within the conservative movement.
“It’s been building for a while,” he said. “You’ve had a lot of people, myself included, holding our breath as he kept talking and talking.”
Even without being in Atlanta, Trump dominated the conference on Saturday. One after another, presidential candidates were asked to respond to Trump’s comments. On stage, Erickson described the hundreds of e-mails he had received that morning from Trump supporters calling President Obama “the n-word” and Kelly “the c-word.”
From the audience — the kind of grass-roots activists primed to rally to Trump’s anti-Washington call — there was a jarring burst of anger against the candidate.
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Strategists predicted that Trump’s raising of his hand in the opening minutes of Thursday’s debate — declining to rule out an independent candidacy should he fail to be the GOP nominee — could limit his ability to expand beyond his base of angry, anti-establishment voters. An adviser to a rival campaign described Trump’s move as “the hand of heresy.”
“If you start to see erosion of Trump’s numbers, it could become a tailspin quickly, and it could be hard to pull the plane out of the dive,” said Phil Musser, a GOP consultant and chairman of IMGE, a digital media agency. “There would be a major pile-on and likely a spectacular crash.”
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The GOP establishment has gleefully launched the Dump The Trump campaign.
“There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent? Take a look at what we’ve done, too.” - Donald J. Trump, President of the USA
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Fascinating to watch you align with the GOP establishment.
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Look at this, a socialist is running for the Democrat nomination, and doing very well. Who ever would have thought, socialist in the Democrat party.
A union endorsing a socialist for Dem nomination. Who ever would have thought. Union-socialis-Democrat, all in one sentence together.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/10/politics/ ... index.html
A socialist is popular with Democrats. Who would have thought.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/iow ... 08597.html
A union endorsing a socialist for Dem nomination. Who ever would have thought. Union-socialis-Democrat, all in one sentence together.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/10/politics/ ... index.html
A socialist is popular with Democrats. Who would have thought.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/iow ... 08597.html
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Martin O'Malley discovering the true nature of his party. It's a party of the status quo. A party of the 1%, by the 1% for the 1%. Servicing the 1% in any way they desire.
It's a party of Superdelegates. Of Establishment. Of huge money. That decides matters behind closed doors. That stifles speech and debate. Literally.
Martin O'Malley is discovering the truth.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski ... .cqBlAVd2J
It's a party of Superdelegates. Of Establishment. Of huge money. That decides matters behind closed doors. That stifles speech and debate. Literally.
Martin O'Malley is discovering the truth.
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Martin O’Malley Erupts On Debate Schedule: “What The Hell Kind Of Democratic Party Is This?”
“We shouldn’t be a party that’s afraid to talk about America’s role in the world and the lessons we’ve learned from these last very hard 14 to 15 years of conflict.”
Democratic presidential candidate and former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley criticized his party’s debate schedule on Monday, calling the format of six debates a “sad state of affairs.”
“I think that having more debates would certainly have all of the candidates take positions on issues,” O’Malley said in an interview with Boston Herald Radio. O’Malley is positioning himself as a progressive alternative to Hillary Clinton
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Not really, he is his own donor. Still one dollar for a vote.Mr. Perfect wrote:True. Hillary will run to represent her donors. Just another way Trump is better than Hillary.kmich wrote:No, Trump will run for Trump, not for anyone else. That is his appeal.Parodite wrote:What if Trump decides to run for the Dems eventually.. is that in theory possible?
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So HRC is going to lose to Bernie Sanders, not even Trump. Who would have thought, a Socialist as the Democrat nominee. How shocking, isn't it.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinio ... n_nh_44_37
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Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders has rocketed past longtime front-runner Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, a stunning turn in a race once considered a lock for the former secretary of state, a new Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald poll shows.
Sanders leads Clinton 44-37 percent among likely Democratic primary voters, the first time the heavily favored Clinton has trailed in the 2016 primary campaign, according to the poll of 442 Granite-Staters.
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Sanders polling well in New England doesn't mean anything.
“There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent? Take a look at what we’ve done, too.” - Donald J. Trump, President of the USA
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It means he wins a primary state that was impossible for him to win.
Imagine that, a Socialist winning a Democrat primary. You could knock me over with a feather.
Imagine that, a Socialist winning a Democrat primary. You could knock me over with a feather.
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The primary is six months away. Anything can happen.
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Including a Socialist winning the Democrat nomination. Imagine that, a Socialist at the head of the Democrat party. Who ever would have thought that. Imagine.
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What there to be surprised about? They're everywhere. Lurking under your bed, hiding in your closet, standing in the shadows.Mr. Perfect wrote:Including a Socialist winning the Democrat nomination. Imagine that, a Socialist at the head of the Democrat party. Who ever would have thought that. Imagine.
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If Sanders wins, we could end up like Norway!Typhoon wrote:What there to be surprised about? They're everywhere. Lurking under your bed, hiding in your closet, standing in the shadows.Mr. Perfect wrote:Including a Socialist winning the Democrat nomination. Imagine that, a Socialist at the head of the Democrat party. Who ever would have thought that. Imagine.
Ready to get you as soon as you drop your guard. Hope you sleep with a gun under your pillow.
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Mr. Perfect is always prepared. He sleeps with his gun, dog and truck under his pillow.Typhoon wrote:Ready to get you as soon as you drop your guard. Hope you sleep with a gun under your pillow.
“There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent? Take a look at what we’ve done, too.” - Donald J. Trump, President of the USA
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Most prudent and commendable. One can never be too prepared:YMix wrote:Mr. Perfect is always prepared. He sleeps with his gun, dog and truck under his pillow.Typhoon wrote:Ready to get you as soon as you drop your guard. Hope you sleep with a gun under your pillow.
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Lesbians serving in the military engaging in premarital sex?Nonc Hilaire wrote:If Sanders wins, we could end up like Norway!Typhoon wrote:What there to be surprised about? They're everywhere. Lurking under your bed, hiding in your closet, standing in the shadows.Mr. Perfect wrote:Including a Socialist winning the Democrat nomination. Imagine that, a Socialist at the head of the Democrat party. Who ever would have thought that. Imagine.
Ready to get you as soon as you drop your guard. Hope you sleep with a gun under your pillow.
The horror. The horror.
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‘Top Secret’ emails found as Clinton probe expands to key aides
Billary is just too dumb to be running for POTUS.As pressure builds on Hillary Clinton to explain her official use of personal email while serving as secretary of state, she faced new complications Tuesday. It was disclosed her top aides are being drawn into a burgeoning federal inquiry and that two emails on her private account have been classified as “Top Secret.”
The inspector general for the Intelligence Community notified senior members of Congress that two of four classified emails discovered on the server Clinton maintained at her New York home contained material deemed to be in one of the highest security classifications - more sensitive than previously known.
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Her problem is dishonesty, not intelligence.Typhoon wrote:‘Top Secret’ emails found as Clinton probe expands to key aides
Billary is just too dumb to be running for POTUS.As pressure builds on Hillary Clinton to explain her official use of personal email while serving as secretary of state, she faced new complications Tuesday. It was disclosed her top aides are being drawn into a burgeoning federal inquiry and that two emails on her private account have been classified as “Top Secret.”
The inspector general for the Intelligence Community notified senior members of Congress that two of four classified emails discovered on the server Clinton maintained at her New York home contained material deemed to be in one of the highest security classifications - more sensitive than previously known.
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If she is not smart enough to capably cover her tracks and hide her lies . . .Nonc Hilaire wrote:Her problem is dishonesty, not intelligence.Typhoon wrote:‘Top Secret’ emails found as Clinton probe expands to key aides
Billary is just too dumb to be running for POTUS.As pressure builds on Hillary Clinton to explain her official use of personal email while serving as secretary of state, she faced new complications Tuesday. It was disclosed her top aides are being drawn into a burgeoning federal inquiry and that two emails on her private account have been classified as “Top Secret.”
The inspector general for the Intelligence Community notified senior members of Congress that two of four classified emails discovered on the server Clinton maintained at her New York home contained material deemed to be in one of the highest security classifications - more sensitive than previously known.
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Outside of the US, yes, they are everywhere. Inside the US they are almost entirely contained within the Democrat Party, so it's not a problem spotting them.Typhoon wrote: What there to be surprised about? They're everywhere. Lurking under your bed, hiding in your closet, standing in the shadows.
Ready to get you as soon as you drop your guard. Hope you sleep with a gun under your pillow.
This works better than the pillow thing.
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No. We won't end up like Norwary.Nonc Hilaire wrote: If Sanders wins, we could end up like Norway!
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My security measures are so good that I don't need to worry about this.YMix wrote:Mr. Perfect is always prepared. He sleeps with his gun, dog and truck under his pillow.Typhoon wrote:Ready to get you as soon as you drop your guard. Hope you sleep with a gun under your pillow.
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Al Gore a possible run for president in 2016
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Better late than never
Al Gore won the presidency, they cheated in all level and stole the presidency
Imagine, Al Gore been declared president January 2001, imagine how America would be looking now
For sure no Iraq or Afghanistan fiasco, at least 2 trillion dollars pored into toilet .. American would have been 100 yrs ahead.
Folks, lets hope he enters presidency run AND wins .. he the most qualified of the crowed.
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Better late than never
Al Gore won the presidency, they cheated in all level and stole the presidency
Imagine, Al Gore been declared president January 2001, imagine how America would be looking now
For sure no Iraq or Afghanistan fiasco, at least 2 trillion dollars pored into toilet .. American would have been 100 yrs ahead.
Folks, lets hope he enters presidency run AND wins .. he the most qualified of the crowed.
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