Use a bigger font size. My eyesight isn't what it used to be.Doc wrote:LINK?
Use a bigger font size. My eyesight isn't what it used to be.YMix wrote:Doc wrote:LINK?
NSA Targets World Leaders for US Geopolitical Interests
European Union Italy United Nations
Today, 23 February 2016 at 00:00 GMT [updated 12:20 GMT], WikiLeaks publishes highly classified documents showing that the US National Security Agency bugged a private climate change strategy meeting; between UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin; singled out the Chief of Staff of UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) for long term interception targetting his Swiss phone; singled out the Director of the Rules Division of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Johann Human, and targetted his Swiss phone for long term interception; stole sensitive Italian diplomatic cables detailing how Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implored Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to help patch up his relationship with US President Barack Obama, who was refusing to talk to Netanyahu; intercepted top EU and Japanese trade ministers discussing their secret strategy and red lines to stop the US "extort[ing]" them at the WTO Doha arounds (the talks subsequently collapsed); explicitly targetted five other top EU economic officials for long term interception, including their French, Austrian and Belgium phone numbers; explicitly targetted the phones of Italy's ambassador to NATO and other top Italian officials for long term interception; and intercepted details of a critical private meeting between then French president Nicolas Sarkozy, Merkel and Berluscon, where the latter was told the Italian banking system was ready to "pop like a cork".
Some of the intercepts are classified TOP-SECRET COMINT-GAMMA and are the most highly classified documents ever published by a media organization.
WikiLeaks editor Julian Assange said "Today we proved the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon's private meetings over how to save the planet from climate change were bugged by a country intent on protecting its largest oil companies. Back in 2010 we revealed that the then US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had ordered her diplomats to steal the UN leadership's biometric data and other information. The US government has signed agreements with the UN that it will not engage in such conduct. It will be interesting to see the UN's reaction, because if the United Nations Secretary General, whose communications and person have legal inviolability, can be repeatedly attacked without consequence then everyone is at risk."
The NSA data for this release: UN Sec Gen & Merkel intercept, UNHCR & WTO target selectors and assignments, Netanyahu-Berlusconi-Sarkozy-Merkel intercepts, EU-Japan WTO/Doha trade talks strategy intercept, EU & Belgium MFA target selectors and assignments and Italy target selectors and assignments.
So you can Google. That's good to know.Doc wrote:Without looking at your link it is from teh Atlantic originally.
They couldn't write anything favorable about Trump if they tried.
Source?Besdies that Trump has already done teh exact opposite of what they claim. He has ordered his White House Lawyers to get the actually warrants out of the bowels of the deep state.
After 9 month of no evidence on multiple Russia claims it's only fair to let Trump have some.YMix wrote:A day after President Donald Trump charged that President Obama had tapped his phones in advance of the November election, his spokesperson indicated that the White House did not intend to offer any evidence to substantiate that remarkable claim—and would not be offering further comment in the near future.
Meh, TV histrionics. Aside from an alleged investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to the Russians and Flynn's own stupidity, he has nothing. But he sure knows how to pound the table.Parodite wrote:w80TIsyASjw
Levin has a point.
Obama admin, the W.Bush-Turbo neo-liberal, who allowed for more drone strikes, pushed more wars in the Meddle East as-if nothing was learned from the Iraq war, who allowed for more surveillance powers to spy on everybody included political rivals, journalists, who went very tough on whistle blowers.. was in the worst case a calculating sociopath, or perhaps just a weak puppet on a string.YMix wrote:Meh, TV histrionics. Aside from an alleged investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to the Russians and Flynn's own stupidity, he has nothing. But he sure knows how to pound the table.Levin has a point.
NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:this is getting out of hand.
Transitions are supposed to be peaceful; they are going to wreck the whole thing for what purpose? To rule the rubble?
Actually, Obama did learn something from the Iraq debacle and tried to play Libya and Syria through proxies. That didn't work as expected either, much to the dismay or ordinary Libyans and Syrians.Parodite wrote:Obama admin, the W.Bush-Turbo neo-liberal, who allowed for more drone strikes, pushed more wars in the Meddle East as-if nothing was learned from the Iraq war,
Neither. Obama and Bush were party hacks who understood the system and kept it going.who allowed for more surveillance powers to spy on everybody included political rivals, journalists, who went very tough on whistle blowers.. was in the worst case a calculating sociopath, or perhaps just a weak puppet on a string.
Probably.But this is not about Obama or Trump. It is about the US gvts using intelligence bureaus, deep state to further their own political interest over national interest and democracy. Or deep state conversely controlling any US gvt to serve their own vested interests. It seems to me that a body/cartel that controls all intelligence can make or break anybody they want. Now their target may be Trump..next time it can be a democrat. Trump loves revenge.. he might use the deep state at one point once they are on his side.
I'm pretty sure the intelligence bigwigs working against Trump see themselves as patriots struggling to rescue US domination from a shortsighted and ignorant buffoon. And, by their own logic, they are correct. After all, the most important thing is...noddy wrote:I suspect their levels of entitlement and onwards and upwards reading on history leaves them unaware of any such outcomes, their worldview only sees the other side getting damage.
Good material for a new HBO series "Rogue State".YMix wrote:Probably.Parodite wrote:But this is not about Obama or Trump. It is about the US gvts using intelligence bureaus, deep state to further their own political interest over national interest and democracy. Or deep state conversely controlling any US gvt to serve their own vested interests. It seems to me that a body/cartel that controls all intelligence can make or break anybody they want. Now their target may be Trump..next time it can be a democrat. Trump loves revenge.. he might use the deep state at one point once they are on his side.
It's how nimrods operate.YMix wrote:It's how the political duopoly operates.
True.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:To paraphrase trump: "I like my heroes who don't lose".
He wanted to play, he's got to either win or go home.
