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Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 7:44 pm
by Typhoon
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Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:58 pm
by Doc
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... ans/380252
Wealthy L.A. Schools' Vaccination Rates Are as Low as South Sudan's

Hollywood parents say not vaccinating makes "instinctive" sense. Now their kids have whooping cough.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:05 am
by Typhoon
Doc wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... ans/380252
Wealthy L.A. Schools' Vaccination Rates Are as Low as South Sudan's

Hollywood parents say not vaccinating makes "instinctive" sense. Now their kids have whooping cough.
Another data point in my pet [conspiracy] theory that we have evolved to endure constant adversity.

Lacking adversity, having to endure comfort, safety, wealth, and abundance, we create our own.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:43 am
by Simple Minded
Colonel Sun wrote:
Another data point in my pet [conspiracy] theory that we have evolved to endure constant adversity.

Lacking adversity, having to endure comfort, safety, wealth, and abundance, we create our own.
Agreed. When reality fails to provide dragons to slay to prove one's self-importance, our imagination and intuitiveness never let us down.

To a creative mind, there is no safe space!!

check out my website, leeches-r-us.com for the latest in non-current medical technologies.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:48 am
by Nonc Hilaire
Disagree. The personal ethos has changed from one of seeking self-satisfaction and accomplishment to fear of loss and humiliation.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:05 am
by Doc
Simple Minded wrote:
Colonel Sun wrote:
Another data point in my pet [conspiracy] theory that we have evolved to endure constant adversity.

Lacking adversity, having to endure comfort, safety, wealth, and abundance, we create our own.
Agreed. When reality fails to provide dragons to slay to prove one's self-importance, our imagination and intuitiveness never let us down.

To a creative mind, there is no safe space!!

check out my website, leeches-r-us.com for the latest in non-current medical technologies.
People have to much time on their hands. Back in the good old days when it was hunt or be hunted things were so much simpler

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:36 am
by Typhoon
Doc wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:
Colonel Sun wrote:
Another data point in my pet [conspiracy] theory that we have evolved to endure constant adversity.

Lacking adversity, having to endure comfort, safety, wealth, and abundance, we create our own.
Agreed. When reality fails to provide dragons to slay to prove one's self-importance, our imagination and intuitiveness never let us down.

To a creative mind, there is no safe space!!

check out my website, leeches-r-us.com for the latest in non-current medical technologies.
People have to much time on their hands. Back in the good old days when it was hunt or be hunted things were so much simpler
Simpler, perhaps, but not a life I'd care to experience.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:37 am
by Typhoon
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Disagree. The personal ethos has changed from one of seeking self-satisfaction and accomplishment to fear of loss and humiliation.
Interesting. How so?

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:49 am
by noddy
seems this argument is
paranoid of imaginary boogermen vs paranoid of missing out vs paranoid of losing it all.
which tends to suggest the primal paranoia is the core of it :P

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:57 am
by Simple Minded
noddy wrote:seems this argument is
paranoid of imaginary boogermen vs paranoid of missing out vs paranoid of losing it all.
which tends to suggest the primal paranoia is the core of it :P
that's why we have so many zip codes in the US! :P With 320+ million, even 39,000 zip codes isn't enough to sub-catagorize the herd.

you left out the very real paranoia of "I have virtual access to too many people so it is very difficult for me to feel special."

"the internet" is the biggest herd of all. How to stand out?

I think the assignment of Global Recognition Identification Numbers (GRIN) is the answer. I lay claim to GRIN # 1,234,567,890!!!! noddy can have 7,777,777,777. Mr. Perfect can have 6,666,666,666. The rest of all y'all better get on board fore all the good numbers are gone! ;)

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:03 am
by Simple Minded
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Disagree. The personal ethos has changed from one of seeking self-satisfaction and accomplishment to fear of loss and humiliation.
for some, I have no doubt this is an accurate description. also how to stand out in the herd at Penn Central is another category.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:43 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Colonel Sun wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Disagree. The personal ethos has changed from one of seeking self-satisfaction and accomplishment to fear of loss and humiliation.
Interesting. How so?
It starts with failure to identify and conquer frontiers. People today want to optimize their personal situation and maintain stability.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:59 pm
by Typhoon
Simple Minded wrote:
Colonel Sun wrote:
Another data point in my pet [conspiracy] theory that we have evolved to endure constant adversity.

Lacking adversity, having to endure comfort, safety, wealth, and abundance, we create our own.
Agreed. When reality fails to provide dragons to slay to prove one's self-importance, our imagination and intuitiveness never let us down.

To a creative mind, there is no safe space!!

check out my website, leeches-r-us.com for the latest in non-current medical technologies.
If you can grow leeches, then there are microsurgery teams that would appreciate your business ;)

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:51 pm
by Doc
Colonel Sun wrote:
Doc wrote:
Simple Minded wrote:
Colonel Sun wrote:
Another data point in my pet [conspiracy] theory that we have evolved to endure constant adversity.

Lacking adversity, having to endure comfort, safety, wealth, and abundance, we create our own.
Agreed. When reality fails to provide dragons to slay to prove one's self-importance, our imagination and intuitiveness never let us down.

To a creative mind, there is no safe space!!

check out my website, leeches-r-us.com for the latest in non-current medical technologies.
People have to much time on their hands. Back in the good old days when it was hunt or be hunted things were so much simpler
Simpler, perhaps, but not a life I'd care to experience.
Nor I. But perhaps SM.... :P

In any event I remember reading an article several years ago that new drugs were coming soon to medicate people to make it easier to deal with modern society. I wouldn't care to experience that either.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:22 pm
by Typhoon
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Colonel Sun wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Disagree. The personal ethos has changed from one of seeking self-satisfaction and accomplishment to fear of loss and humiliation.
Interesting. How so?
It starts with failure to identify and conquer frontiers. People today want to optimize their personal situation and maintain stability.
At least in science, there is no shortage of new frontiers to identify and conquer, but I suspect that is not what you have in mind.

Can you be a bit more specific? Examples.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:12 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Colonel Sun wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Colonel Sun wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Disagree. The personal ethos has changed from one of seeking self-satisfaction and accomplishment to fear of loss and humiliation.
Interesting. How so?
It starts with failure to identify and conquer frontiers. People today want to optimize their personal situation and maintain stability.
At least in science, there is no shortage of new frontiers to identify and conquer, but I suspect that is not what you have in mind.

Can you be a bit more specific? Examples.
In college and science the theme is now play it safe, get a good job or tenure. Why is AGW so successful? Science is political now.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:17 pm
by Typhoon
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Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:15 pm
by Typhoon
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:12 pm
Colonel Sun wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:
Colonel Sun wrote:
Nonc Hilaire wrote:Disagree. The personal ethos has changed from one of seeking self-satisfaction and accomplishment to fear of loss and humiliation.
Interesting. How so?
It starts with failure to identify and conquer frontiers. People today want to optimize their personal situation and maintain stability.
At least in science, there is no shortage of new frontiers to identify and conquer, but I suspect that is not what you have in mind.

Can you be a bit more specific? Examples.
In college and science the theme is now play it safe, get a good job or tenure. Why is AGW so successful? Science is political now.
That's a bit of a broad brush. AGW certainly is as are some other fields.
Tenure has always been a key goal, as long as tenure has existed.

I was discussing this topic with a colleague this past weekend and he wryly observed that movie stars, politicians, and other public personalities have nothing on scientists when it comes to craving attention and recognition, especially by one's peers.

Being published in a prestigious journal, feted in the popular press, etc. leads to a cascade of rewards.

The ultimate recognition being a Nobel award or Fields medal [math].

The pathological extreme is when scientists become activists, believing their own bullsh*t, aligning themselves with some popular and influential cults and using the power of such cults to carry out a contemporary form of Lysenkoism.

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:16 pm
by Typhoon
Aeon | Suspicion makes us human
Conspiracy theories have always been with us, powered by an evolutionary drive to survive. How’s that working for us now?

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:07 pm
by Doc
Colonel Sun wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:16 pm Aeon | Suspicion makes us human
Conspiracy theories have always been with us, powered by an evolutionary drive to survive. How’s that working for us now?
You mean I should be suspicious of bright orange stuff that dances?

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:02 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
Pro-vaccine immunologist, leader in the field, talks about side effects so he must be silenced. Business and politics trump science again.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/11 ... cine-views

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:16 pm
by Nonc Hilaire
What if Trump laid an estoppel on all USAID funds until the programs produced an accounting?

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1196 ... 38091.html

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:32 pm
by Doc
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:16 pm What if Trump laid an estoppel on all USAID funds until the programs produced an accounting?

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1196 ... 38091.html
Is it the US Government's business what foreign leaders do with their retirement accounts?

Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:17 pm
by Doc
Paranoid Doomer Porn

SM this will make you laugh at around 5:08 in.

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Re: Conspiracy Theories, Crackpots, and other Looney Tunes

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:21 pm
by Simple Minded
Doc wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:17 pm Paranoid Doomer Porn

SM this will make you laugh at around 5:08 in.

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Brilliant, even though I only watched the first 7 minutes, gotta save some for later. I like the cat's reaction at about 3:00.

Seems like this guy may be the primary source for Zerohedge.

I think, since you are a doctor, you should jump a plane to Sweden and check to see if Greta's hymen is still intact.