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Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:46 pm
by Typhoon
Recently looked this up.
The US has 112.6 firearms per 100 residents*
and despite effectively having
more firearms than people still cannot prevent repeated mass shooting sprees.
The proposed solution? More firearms.
Fascinating.
*wherein resident includes anyone and everyone with a mailing address
Context:
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:15 am
by Simple Minded
Typhoon, You are being facetious here, right?
As a man of science, you would know it is not the total number of guns that are the problem, but the limited range of the guns owned by gun owners who are outside of the "Gun Free" zones. Now if they had the ability to shoot, sniper style, from outside the gun free zones, in to the gun free zones....
or perhaps it is more a Marxist problem, not too many guns, but unequal distribution of guns?
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:43 am
by Typhoon
Simple Minded wrote:Typhoon, You are being facetious here, right?
As a man of science, you would know it is not the total number of guns that are the problem, but the limited range of the guns owned by gun owners who are outside of the "Gun Free" zones. Now if they had the ability to shoot, sniper style, from outside the gun free zones, in to the gun free zones....
or perhaps it is more a Marxist problem, not too many guns, but unequal distribution of guns?
Yes, partly.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:59 am
by Nonc Hilaire
The idea of gun control is to make it easier to arrest people with guns. This could work if all trials were jury trials and juries were informed of their absolute right to nullify the law in favor of justice.
Mandatory sentencing guidelines and plea bargaining screw that up. The court has become a mindless meat grinder instead of an arbiter of justice.
Gun control is a bad thing in the current system because it catches the good guys with the bad.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:35 am
by Simple Minded
Nonc Hilaire wrote:The idea of gun control is to make it easier to arrest people with guns. This could work if all trials were jury trials and juries were informed of their absolute right to nullify the law in favor of justice.
Mandatory sentencing guidelines and plea bargaining screw that up. The court has become a mindless meat grinder instead of an arbiter of justice.
Gun control is a bad thing in the current system because it catches the good guys with the bad.
well said. but it avoids a lot of emotional hot button issues and finger pointing, so it will probably not be popular.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:42 pm
by Simple Minded
Typhoon wrote:Simple Minded wrote:Typhoon, You are being facetious here, right?
As a man of science, you would know it is not the total number of guns that are the problem, but the limited range of the guns owned by gun owners who are outside of the "Gun Free" zones. Now if they had the ability to shoot, sniper style, from outside the gun free zones, in to the gun free zones....
or perhaps it is more a Marxist problem, not too many guns, but unequal distribution of guns?
Yes, partly.
it would be an interesting social experiment to take a high crime city, and just flood it with small cheap handguns. Everyone who is over 21 gets a gun and ammo when they pick up a welfare or social security check, pay their electric bill, property taxes, or stop by city hall and fill out the forms.
Would crime and violence increase or fall? And for how long? When would it stabilize? Would the neighborhood cull the bad seeds? Who would feel more empowered, the good people or the bad people? Would it be killing field chaos, or as would people be as polite as they are at gun shows?
Then in a similar city, do the same but tell everyone in that city that each gun and bullet were uniquely traceable to each person.
Would the inanimate objects dominate the personalities, or would the personalities dominate the inanimate objects?
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:47 pm
by noddy
from my experience the results would be tightly tied to the amphetamine usage.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:51 pm
by Simple Minded
on a lighter note:
https://www.google.com/search?q=best+pr ... Pgodz5wARA
https://www.google.com/search?q=best+an ... A&dpr=1.25
In the olden days I liked the "Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns" bumper sticker
Now "Monica Lewinsky's x-boyfriend's wife for president!" and "If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted!" make me smile.
If people ever get rational, this world will be so boring......
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:00 pm
by Simple Minded
noddy wrote:from my experience the results would be tightly tied to the amphetamine usage.
so you are saying the inanimate object the person ingests would dominate their personality more than the inanimate object they own.....
I think you may be right. big market out there for Chill Pills........
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:37 am
by YMix
Two die in two US university shootings
Two people have died after two separate university shootings in Texas and Arizona, just hours apart.
One person was killed and three injured in the first shooting at Northern Arizona University early on Friday, which involved fraternity members.
Later that morning a shooting at a student complex near Texas Southern University left one person dead.
The attacks came as President Barack Obama visited families of victims of a college shooting in Oregon.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:03 pm
by noddy
Simple Minded wrote:noddy wrote:from my experience the results would be tightly tied to the amphetamine usage.
so you are saying the inanimate object the person ingests would dominate their personality more than the inanimate object they own.....
I think you may be right. big market out there for Chill Pills........
amphetamines turn you into an aggressive zero tolerance ball of indestructible energy with a god complex, which is why they are the pill of choice for armies, bikers and miscellaneous thugs.
their is a school of thought that many of the nazi atrocities and the worst of the american soliders flipping out in various wars all leads back to a certain stimulant.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:52 pm
by Simple Minded
noddy wrote:
Amphetamines turn you into an aggressive zero tolerance ball of indestructible energy with a god complex, which is why they are the pill of choice for armies, bikers and miscellaneous thugs.
I think I might have a vitamin A deficiency.....
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:16 am
by Doc
YMix wrote:Two die in two US university shootings
Two people have died after two separate university shootings in Texas and Arizona, just hours apart.
One person was killed and three injured in the first shooting at Northern Arizona University early on Friday, which involved fraternity members.
Later that morning a shooting at a student complex near Texas Southern University left one person dead.
The attacks came as President Barack Obama visited families of victims of a college shooting in Oregon.
I suppose Obama went to the wrong school, even if there were no fund raisers close by.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:03 am
by Typhoon
I think it was the Lyndon LaRouche cult that had a bump sticker:
What spreads faster than radioactive fallout?
Jane Fonda
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:05 am
by Typhoon
Doc wrote:YMix wrote:Two die in two US university shootings
Two people have died after two separate university shootings in Texas and Arizona, just hours apart.
One person was killed and three injured in the first shooting at Northern Arizona University early on Friday, which involved fraternity members.
Later that morning a shooting at a student complex near Texas Southern University left one person dead.
The attacks came as President Barack Obama visited families of victims of a college shooting in Oregon.
I suppose Obama went to the wrong school, even if there were no fund raisers close by.
Would setting up an official college hunting season help keep under control and in check to an acceptable level?
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:05 am
by YMix
Doc wrote:I suppose Obama went to the wrong school, even if there were no fund raisers close by.
Looks like he should just go from school to school all year long.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:27 pm
by Doc
Typhoon wrote:Doc wrote:YMix wrote:Two die in two US university shootings
Two people have died after two separate university shootings in Texas and Arizona, just hours apart.
One person was killed and three injured in the first shooting at Northern Arizona University early on Friday, which involved fraternity members.
Later that morning a shooting at a student complex near Texas Southern University left one person dead.
The attacks came as President Barack Obama visited families of victims of a college shooting in Oregon.
I suppose Obama went to the wrong school, even if there were no fund raisers close by.
Would setting up an official college hunting season help keep under control and in check to an acceptable level?
For Dems any level is acceptable above zero as long as it gives them a chance to politicize
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:46 am
by Simple Minded
Panic strikes school after student says ‘gum’
October 14, 2015
KYLE, Texas – Emotions are on a hair trigger in schools these days.
So much so, just hearing the word “gum” can cause a school-wide freak-out, as evidenced by an episode Wednesday.
A student at Lehman High School student reportedly asked for some chewing gum, but another student thought the student said “gun,” KCEN reports.
No gun was found and Hays County, Texas school district spokesman Tim Savoy insists the school was never in “lock down,” though school administrators did “hold students in their extended class periods to investigate the concern with little to no disruption to their schedule.”
gum gun 337x244Principal Michelle Chae sent a letter home to parents after the incident, according to the Hays Free Press, writing:
Dear Lobo Parents,
This morning we received a report from a student that there was allegedly a weapon on campus. After investigating the concern, it was determined that a student thought he heard the word “gun,” but in fact it was another student asking for some “gum.”
The safety of our students is always foremost on our list of priorities, so we take these concerns seriously. We continue to encourage students to report anything they see or hear that causes them concern. Fortunately, in this case, it was a misunderstanding and there was no threat to our school or need to conduct a lockdown.
Because we are conducting the PSAT, we were able to hold students in their extended class periods to investigate the concern with little to no disruption to their schedule.
Sincerely,
Michelle Chae
Principal, LHS
No gun was ever found. No word on if the student ever got the requested gum.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:13 am
by Typhoon
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:51 am
by Simple Minded
Ya gotta admit, those are very useful life lessons. Some things you don't want to learn the hard way.
"Always learn from others. He who teaches himself has a fool for a master."
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:42 pm
by Typhoon
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:32 am
by Simple Minded
All drones, or only the gun carrying drones?
Not having enough criminals in society is easily fixed with more regulation.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:56 pm
by YMix
Maybe having lots of concealed carry drones would make for a more polite society.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:35 pm
by noddy
if everyone had a drone equipped with railguns it would be awesome, like the knife missles in the culture books.
Re: Guns in the USA | Shooting the news
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:58 am
by Simple Minded
Now that it is possible to do a lot more damage with a smartphone or a computer than with a gun, all electronic devices should be registered.
thankfully, it has never occurred to any American to carry their smartphone in a concealed manner.