The Ukraine-Russia war

[Parodite]

Some things are hard to predict, especially the future, but it seems to me that Trump might pull it off—a ceasefire for starters, increased military spending on defense by Western Europe and giving stronger support for Ukraine, with more domestic European production of war gear in the future.

This spat between Zelensky, Trump, and JD has helped move the pieces on the chessboard in the right direction. If Putin is effectively stopped in his tracks with only minimal territorial gains beyond Crimea and Donbas, it would be a massive victory for NATO, Europe, and the USA. And probably the maximum result for Ukraine while fending off a WW3 escalation.

It seems to me that Trump putting Zelensky in a tough spot is a tactical maneuver to get Putin to the negotiation table. And who knows? If Putler can save face, he might be able to sell a ceasefire to his Russian compatriots as a victory.

[noddy]

It wasnt a spat, it was theatre - never seen anything like it, its all strangely comical.

The US wanted to be free of the world police role, its going to get that good and proper.

Making a deal with the US now is like making a deal with Putin - subject to emporers whim and full exploitation of the consequences.

It will be good for the Ukrainians to stop dying in a war they cant win, but the change in the perception on America will last a lot longer than that.

[Doc]

It wasnt a spat, it was theatre - never seen anything like it, its all strangely comical.

The US wanted to be free of the world police role, its going to get that good and proper.

Making a deal with the US now is like making a deal with Putin - subject to emporers whim and full exploitation of the consequences.

It will be good for the Ukrainians to stop dying in a war they cant win, but the change in the perception on America will last a lot longer than that.

Hmmmm Ukrainians stop dying in war good. Trump stopping war bad.

How Americans are tired of being perceived:



The US navy was given $12 billion dollars by congress to build new submarines. No submarines were built and the navy doesn't know where the $12 billion went to.

Also:



Plus:

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/24/e ... ine-report

EU spends more on Russian oil and gas than financial aid to Ukraine – report

Europe estimated to have bought €22bn of fossil fuels from Russia in 2024 but gave €19bn to support Kyiv

Ajit Niranjan

Mon 24 Feb 2025 00.00 EST

The EU is spending more money on Russian fossil fuels than on financial aid to Ukraine, a report marking the third anniversary of the invasion has found.

EU member states bought €21.9bn (£18.1bn) of Russian oil and gas in the third year of the war, according to estimates from the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (Crea), despite the efforts under way to kick the continent’s addiction to the fuels that fund Vladimir Putin’s war chest.

The amount is one-sixth greater than the €18.7bn the EU allocated to Ukraine in financial aid in 2024, according to a tracker from the Kiel Institute for the World Economy (IfW Kiel).

Vaibhav Raghunandan, an analyst at Crea and coauthor of the report, said: “Purchasing Russian fossil fuels is, quite plainly, akin to sending financial aid to the Kremlin and enabling its invasion. [It’s] a practice that must stop immediately to secure not just Ukraine’s future, but also Europe’s energy security.”

The researchers compiled trade data to estimate the value of Russian fuels that were sold around the world in the third year of the invasion. They forecast data for February 2025, which is not yet available, based on imports in January.

In the calendar year 2024, the EU spent 39% more on Russian fossil fuel imports than it set aside for Ukraine. The aid figure does not include military or humanitarian contributions.

Christoph Trebesch, an economist at IfW Kiel, which was not involved in the analysis, said there was a striking gap between how much aid donors had mobilised for Ukraine compared with past wars, with European donors spending on average less than 0.1% of GDP a year.

He said: “Many countries were more generous in past conflicts. Germany, for example, mobilised much more aid, more quickly for Kuwait’s liberation in 1990/91 than it has for Ukraine in a comparable time period.”

The report also found Russia earned €242bn from global fossil fuel exports in the third year of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, with revenues since the start of the war “now inching closer to the trillion figure” as the country adapts to sanctions.

Russia gets up to half of its tax revenues from the oil and gas sector and has sought to bypass sanctions by moving fuels on a “shadow fleet” of old and underinsured tankers. The obscure ships are responsible for transporting about one-third of its fossil fuel export revenues, according to Crea.

On Wednesday, EU ambassadors agreed on new measures to target Russia’s shadow fleet in the 16th round of sanctions since the war began.

The Crea researchers estimated Russian fossil fuel revenues could fall 20% by beefing up existing sanctions and plugging gaps. The measures include closing a “refining loophole” through which Europe can buy Russian crude that has been processed in another country, and restricting gas flows through the Turkstream pipeline.

The report also called for a crackdown on liquefied natural gas (LNG). Europe has slashed its imports of piped Russian gas since the start of the Ukraine war but has sated some of its hunger for energy with shipments of super-chilled gas, including from Russia.

Jan-Eric Fähnrich, a gas analyst at Rystad Energy, said the role of LNG in the EU and UK has grown dramatically since the start of the war, shooting up from a prewar high of 81.3mt in 2019 to 119mt in 2022. He said: “Russia captured the spot as No 2 LNG exporter to Europe last year.”

So please excuse us if our perception of our European NATO partners has changed.

[noddy]

With all these huge blows to expensive wastes your tax cuts are going to be mighty impressive.

Congrats.

[Doc]

With all these huge blows to expensive wastes your tax cuts are going to be mighty impressive.

Congrats.

Well the national Debt is now $36 trillion dollars. Soon to be an estimated $54 Trillion dollars with an annul interest payment of $2 Trillion.

Now it is interesting to note that the US has paid $21.9 Trillion for the Defense of Europe via NATO over the last 75 years. Plus interest I imagine that number would be well over $54 Trillion.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-has-n ... rs-1886632

Over the past 75 years, the U.S. contributed $21.9 trillion to NATO's defense budget, according to its yearly Defense Expenditure of NATO Countries report, significantly more than its 31 peers.

(This is according to NATO)

Since its inception on April 4, 1949, amid the post-World War II recovery period, NATO has stood as a bulwark of collective security against the specter of aggression, with the U.S. playing perhaps the most important role in its financial and strategic underpinnings.

The foundation of NATO, motivated by the need to secure Western Europe against the looming threat of Soviet expansion, required political and financial solidarity.

So the Soviet Union ceased to exit in 1991 almost 35 years ago. So why does NATO still exist and why is the US still paying for it?

[Doc]

This story is from a year ago. Note that at that time 59% of Americans were against sending more arms to Ukraine. That even back then Zelensky's inner circle(except Zelensky) did not believe Ukraine could win the war against Russia.



Zelensky’s Corruption EXPOSED: ‘Stealing Like There’s NO TOMORROW’ in Ukraine Government, Per Report

[Nonc Hilaire]

With all these huge blows to expensive wastes your tax cuts are going to be mighty impressive.

Congrats.

Well the national Debt is now $36 trillion dollars. Soon to be an estimated $54 Trillion dollars with an annul interest payment of $2 Trillion.

Now it is interesting to note that the US has paid $21.9 Trillion for the Defense of Europe via NATO over the last 75 years. Plus interest I imagine that number would be well over $54 Trillion.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-has-n ... rs-1886632

Over the past 75 years, the U.S. contributed $21.9 trillion to NATO's defense budget, according to its yearly Defense Expenditure of NATO Countries report, significantly more than its 31 peers.

(This is according to NATO)

Since its inception on April 4, 1949, amid the post-World War II recovery period, NATO has stood as a bulwark of collective security against the specter of aggression, with the U.S. playing perhaps the most important role in its financial and strategic underpinnings.

The foundation of NATO, motivated by the need to secure Western Europe against the looming threat of Soviet expansion, required political and financial solidarity.

So the Soviet Union ceased to exit in 1991 almost 35 years ago. So why does NATO still exist and why is the US still paying for it?

Without NATO Europe would be able to buy Chinese and Russian war toys.

[Doc]

With all these huge blows to expensive wastes your tax cuts are going to be mighty impressive.

Congrats.

Well the national Debt is now $36 trillion dollars. Soon to be an estimated $54 Trillion dollars with an annul interest payment of $2 Trillion.

Now it is interesting to note that the US has paid $21.9 Trillion for the Defense of Europe via NATO over the last 75 years. Plus interest I imagine that number would be well over $54 Trillion.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-has-n ... rs-1886632

Over the past 75 years, the U.S. contributed $21.9 trillion to NATO's defense budget, according to its yearly Defense Expenditure of NATO Countries report, significantly more than its 31 peers.

(This is according to NATO)

Since its inception on April 4, 1949, amid the post-World War II recovery period, NATO has stood as a bulwark of collective security against the specter of aggression, with the U.S. playing perhaps the most important role in its financial and strategic underpinnings.

The foundation of NATO, motivated by the need to secure Western Europe against the looming threat of Soviet expansion, required political and financial solidarity.

So the Soviet Union ceased to exit in 1991 almost 35 years ago. So why does NATO still exist and why is the US still paying for it?

Without NATO Europe would be able to buy Chinese and Russian war toys.

No one wants Russian war toys anymore and China does want anything Europe has to exchange for war toys.

[noddy]

yeh dont worry about reposting the talking points, I can watch them stream past me on twitter , in uniform perfection from the talking point factory.

to be clear , because I havent posted for ages - Im not fussed about US support on Ukraine, in my perspective the situation was lost the moment Europe let Europe get attacked with no consequences - in that moment "the west" was gone already, everything since then is fall out.

might aswell call it a Russian victory and move on.

What I find interesting is what Trump is up to.

not only is he withdrawing support, he is threatning allies if they continue to support!

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24982 ... e-ukraine/

he is threatning Denmark/Greenland, he is threatning Canada and Mexico, basically we have a complete reversal of world power politics.

USA is now on the side of Russia as wildcard kleptocracy run by authoritarian whim - the rest of the west is now scrabbling to remove the US from its plans.

its amazing.

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/ ... -protests/

even a crackdown on colleges if they are anti trump, they lose funding - straight out of the Putin/Xi playbook!

so, your talking points are based on the hope that if you pick on trannies, lefties and euro fags enough then people will ignore all the consequences of the rest of the things happening.

and its working, its amazing.

Ukraine always was just the football for global power games, nobody has ever cared how many millions of slavs die - they are the white , black people.

[Doc]

yeh dont worry about reposting the talking points, I can watch them stream past me on twitter , in uniform perfection from the talking point factory.

to be clear , because I havent posted for ages - Im not fussed about US support on Ukraine, in my perspective the situation was lost the moment Europe let Europe get attacked with no consequences - in that moment "the west" was gone already, everything since then is fall out.

That happened when Serbia invaded Bosnia and Europe basically did nothing

might aswell call it a Russian victory and move on.

What I find interesting is what Trump is up to.

not only is he withdrawing support, he is threatning allies if they continue to support!

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24982 ... e-ukraine/

he is threatning Denmark/Greenland, he is threatning Canada and Mexico, basically we have a complete reversal of world power politics.

USA is now on the side of Russia as wildcard kleptocracy run by authoritarian whim - the rest of the west is now scrabbling to remove the US from its plans.

It is called forcing both sides to the negotiating table. Russia apparently wants to negotiate a face saving peace agreement. Ukraine uses the intel to attack Russia directly. Russia changes its mind. No deal. Ukraine has been hoping that Putin would be overthrown. The only problem with that is the only people around that might pull that off are the same people pushing to nuke Ukraine into submission.

Plus Ukraine is certainly a Kleptocracy as run by a leader that has suspended elections. Banned the political opposition parties. Made and acted on assassination list of journalists. Banned churches and kidnaped men off the street as a means of induction into the army.

But how do you expect the war in Ukraine to end? Just keep fighting until the last Ukrainian? Or would you go beyond that....

its amazing.

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/ ... -protests/

even a crackdown on colleges if they are anti trump, they lose funding - straight out of the Putin/Xi playbook!

Anti Trump colleges? Where did you get that idea from? Jewish students have routinely faced violent harrassment on college campuses during pro Hamas protests. Particularly Columbia University.

The president’s post comes a day after multiple federal agencies announced they will be reviewing contracts and grants with Columbia University and deciding whether to continue them due to allegations of antisemitism on its campus

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https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2025/03/ ... puses.html

Given Columbia’s ongoing inaction in the face of relentless harassment of Jewish students, the Federal Government’s Task Force to Combat Anti-Semitism is considering Stop Work Orders for $51.4 million in contracts between Columbia University and the Federal Government. The task force will also conduct a comprehensive review of the more than $5 billion in federal grant commitments to Columbia University to ensure the university is in compliance with federal regulations, including its civil rights responsibilities.

“Anti-Semitism – like racism – is a spiritual and moral malady that sickens societies and kills people with lethalities comparable to history’s most deadly plagues,” said HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. “In recent years, the censorship and false narratives of woke cancel culture have transformed our great universities into greenhouses for this deadly and virulent pestilence. Making America healthy means building communities of trust and mutual respect, based on speech freedom and open debate.”

I would add that in order to get Federal contracts and grants Colombia University like any other institution or Business is REQUIRED to agree not to discriminate against anyone because of Race, national origin, religion, or sex.

so, your talking points are based on the hope that if you pick on trannies, lefties and euro fags enough then people will ignore all the consequences of the rest of the things happening.

and its working, its amazing.

Ukraine always was just the football for global power games, nobody has ever cared how many millions of slavs die - they are the white , black people.

I think you have lost the plot.

For example Trannies Trump has told colleges and universities that allowing men IE Trans women" to compete in women's sports will lead to the loss of their considerable Federal funds.

Do you think men should be allowed to participate in women's sports?
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/high-sch ... -calls-ban

A North Carolina high school volleyball player said she suffered significant and long-term physical and mental injuries last fall when she was spiked in the face by a transgender athlete who was able to compete on a girls’ team because of a policy put in place by the state’s high school athletic association.

He has done nothing WRT gay people otherwise. As far as "lefties" go If they commit actual crimes as they are threatening to do like the "mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 they should be arrested.

[noddy]

It is called forcing both sides to the negotiating table. Russia apparently wants to negotiate a face saving peace agreement. Ukraine uses the intel to attack Russia directly. Russia changes its mind. No deal.

But how do you expect the war in Ukraine to end? Just keep fighting until the last Ukrainian? Or would you go beyond that....

I dont expect anything, couldnt give a shit if the northern hemisphere turned itself into glass.

I just watch whats happening, and whats happening is the USA pulling out of the west, and I find that intersting.

Ill pop back in a year or so, and we can see how that pans out.

Ukraine was never about the ukrainians, and this peace deal is not about them either.

I think you have lost the plot.

that would indicate I had one to lose.

a rare state of affairs indeed.

[Parodite]

Welcome back Noddy, thought you got lost

Well Western Europe turning into glass would solve a lot of problems mine included.

I don't see Putler bow to Trump. So there is still glass in the pipeline. Western Europe is considering sending troops to Ukraine which will heat up the oven.

[noddy]

I glassed my personal life, their are no traces left of the previous empire

Poland is now on war footing, all millitary aged men are getting prepped https://tvpworld.com/85449284/poland-to ... en-says-pm

[Doc]

I glassed my personal life, their are no traces left of the previous empire

Poland is now on war footing, all millitary aged men are getting prepped https://tvpworld.com/85449284/poland-to ... en-says-pm

And Poland has told the western EU it doesn't want any part of their boots on the ground. Why? Rather than being worried about Putin invading through Ukraine their worry is Putin invading through Belarus and the Baltic states. Which was always the route that even back in the days of the Soviet Union that was the worry.

[Nonc Hilaire]

New war correspondence. Confirms the insane Russian pipeline attack of March 1 where a squad was reported on X to have marched 14 km through an unused pipeline to successfully stage a surprise attack on a Ukrainian position.

https://open.substack.com/pub/simpliciu ... -as-daring

[noddy]

Without NATO Europe would be able to buy Chinese and Russian war toys.

Its seeming that nobody is going to trust anybody elses toys and America will just not sell them as easily anymore

news like this seems to be the new normal.


https://www.airdatanews.com/instead-of- ... w-fighter/

The Portuguese Air Force is no longer expected to acquire the 5th generation F-35 fighter from Lockheed Martin, all due to the review of the US position towards NATO.

In an interview with Público, the Portuguese Defense Minister, Nuno Melo, ruled out an order for the aircraft, as did several other European nations, and blamed the Trump administration.

With Trump’s unstable administration, Melo stated that the “predictability of our allies is a greater asset to take into account. We have to believe that, in all circumstances, these allies will be on our side.”

[NapLajoieOnSteroids]

In an interview with Público, the Portuguese Defense Minister, Nuno Melo....

Or as the German Eugyppius headlines provocatively [bold type my emphasis]:

Eurotard hysteria achieves new heights as Ursula von der Leyen unveils her new Goatse-branded defence initiative and Friedrich Merz reacts to literal fake news with a massive deficit spending plan

This war included bizarre moments, like direct attacks on German energy infrastructure, and also escalatory brinksmanship, as when Biden authorised long-range missile strikes within Russian territory, and the Russians responded with a not-so-subtle threat of nuclear retaliation. Throughout all of this madness, the Europeans slept, sparing hardly a single thought for their defence. Now that Donald Trump hopes to end the war in Ukraine, however, Continental political leaders are losing their minds. War: not scary at all. Peace: an existential threat.

The first way our leaders hope to dispel the disturbing spectre of peace, is via Ursula von der Leyen’s “ReArm Europe” initiative, which will permit member states to take on billions in debt to fund their rearmament. In this way, the clueless histrionic Brussels juggernaut hopes (in the words of Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk) to “join and win the arms race” with Russia, even if (in the words of the Neue Zürcher Zeitung – h/t the incomparable Roger Köppel) we must “avoid for the moment a confrontation with the new Washington.” Becoming a global superpower with a view towards confronting the hated Americans is all about spending and time, you don’t need strategy or a plan or anything like that.

Those of you wondering whether it might be a better idea to rearm first and then set about alienating our powerful geopolitical partners simply lack the Eurotardian vision. These are such serious people, that in the space of a few days they spun up this remarkable logo for their spending programme …

… which obviously portrays the EU member states smearing yellow warpaint on themselves and in no way evokes the most notorious obscene internet image of all time. Nations just do stuff, but the Eurotards cannot even take a shit without bizarre hamfisted branding campaigns.

As I said, these are deeply serious people, and they also speak very seriously, in declarative sentences that don’t mean anything. In a publicity statement, von der Leyen said that these are “extraordinary times” which are a “watershed moment” for Europe and also a “watershed moment” for the Ukraine.” Such extraordinary watersheds require “special measures,” such as “peace through strength” and “defence” through “investment.” Top EU diplomat and leading Estonian crazy person Kaja Kallas for her part noted that “We have initiative on the table” and that she’s “looking forward to seeing Europe show unity and resolve.” Perhaps there will also be money in the ReArm Europe programme to outfit Brussels with an arsenal of thesauruses so we do not have to hear the same words all the time.

The European defence-spending orgy was inspired partly by our deeply spooked and unstable soon-to-be Chancellor, Friedrich Merz, whose spirit animal is a pigeon.

Last Tuesday, all of the Eurotards managed to terrify themselves that Donald Trump would announce the withdrawal of the United States from NATO in his pending congressional address. I said in my last post that this was not going to happen, but none of our Eurotard ruling class have any good lines of communication to the Trump administration or any understanding of American intentions at all. Thus Merz apparently believed these crazy rumours, and in a fit of panic he decided that Germany should abolish the debt brake after all. Overnight, he announced plans to reform the German constitution to exempt much defence spending from debt limits entirely, and also to establish a 500 billion-Euro “special fund” for infrastructure spending. (In German politics, “special fund” is a euphemism for “great big wad of debt.”)

[noddy]

all true.

yet also, perhaps missing the point.

good chances everyone is going to think longer and harder about a contract which is subject to the whims of a president, and not locked in by a "deep state" stability.

[NapLajoieOnSteroids]

Being a stable genius, maybe the most stable and most genius, as many are saying; I would agree with that if not for this being a consistent message from several administrations now. Obama asked politely, Trump 1 would call Merkel up weekly to yell at her about it, and Those-Who-Spoke-For-Joe were launching missiles on their borders asking if they were interested in getting ready for a fight and they didn't even shift in their seats.

That's what rankles here. They're throwing "stabbed in the back" rhetoric which is inflammatory and hysterical for something they may not like to hear but have been hearing for 2 decades.

[Nonc Hilaire]

Imo everything pre-Trump is mostly irrelevant. The faction Trump represents controls the world now and the old ruling faction is still powerful but completely subservient.

[Doc]

all true.

yet also, perhaps missing the point.

good chances everyone is going to think longer and harder about a contract which is subject to the whims of a president, and not locked in by a "deep state" stability.

Meanwhile vigilantes are taking matters into their own hands.



Pre WWII The US had no need for a deep state. How did they ever manage to get along without one? Seems like they did not need one because they minded their own business and weren't the world's policeman.

Back then they had had problems with Trusts, interlocking boards of directors, and monopolies AKA Robber Barons. Who were also beholden to the whims of a president. TR went extra judicial to end that. Plus a vigilante Bosnian Serb took out some guy in Serbia. Though everyone thought no big deal as WWI would be over in a couple of weeks. GOOD JOB !!

Now they are inciting riots among a million man 15 minutes of silence protests with sound canons.

What the f*ck is happening in Serbia..

Like a small pizza pie that's Deep State Amouri

Jan 6th before the riots started:

j6 video 1, the first flash bangs tear gas go off.

Like a small pizza pie that's Deep State Amouri


Belgian Police Arrest Several In Corruption Probe Linked To European Parliament | Race To Power

Like a small pizza pie that's Deep State Amouri

Nazi flags seen at freedom convoy in Ottawa

Yes the deep state loves me. Yes the Deep State loves me. Yes the deep state loves me. The MSM tells me so.

[NapLajoieOnSteroids]

Pre WWII The US had no need for a deep state. How did they ever manage to get along without one? Seems like they did not need one because they minded their own business and weren't the world's policeman.

To be fair, leaving aside capability which cuts down on want- we did have a burgeoning 'deep state'. The need or desire most certainly started post civil war. Minding our own business is not how I imagine the Japanese and Chinese, among others, understood the situation.

[Doc]

Pre WWII The US had no need for a deep state. How did they ever manage to get along without one? Seems like they did not need one because they minded their own business and weren't the world's policeman.

To be fair, leaving aside capability which cuts down on want- we did have a burgeoning 'deep state'. The need or desire most certainly started post civil war. Minding our own business is not how I imagine the Japanese and Chinese, among others, understood the situation.

I am not talking about military intel. There was not much in Intel services outside of the military and during war time prior to WWII.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO ... nt022.html

A Peacetime Role for Intelligence
Prior to the 1880s, intelligence activities were devoted almost exclusively to support of military operations, either to support deployed forces or to obtain information on the views or participation of other countries in a particular conflict. In March 1882, however, the first permanent intelligence organization-the Office of Naval Intelligence-was created within the Department of the Navy to collect intelligence on foreign navies in peacetime and in war. Three years later, a similar organization-the Military Intelligence Division-was created within the Army to collect foreign and domestic military data for the War Department and the Army.

The Administration of Theodore Roosevelt saw perhaps the most active use of intelligence for foreign policy purposes by any President until that time. Historians note that Roosevelt used intelligence operatives to incite a revolution in Panama to justify annexing the Panama Canal. In 1907, the President also relied on intelligence that showed the military build-up of the Japanese as justification to launch the worldwide cruise of the "Great White Fleet" as a display of U.S. naval force.

For the most part, however, the early part of the twentieth century was marked not by an expanded use of intelligence for foreign policy purposes, but by an expansion of domestic intelligence capabilities. The Justice Department's Bureau of Investigation (the forerunner of the FBI) was established in 1908 out of concern that Secret Service agents were spying on members of Congress. By 1916, the Bureau had grown from 34 agents focusing primarily on banking issues to 300 agents with an expanded charter that included internal security, Mexican border smuggling activities, neutrality violations in the Mexican revolution, and Central American unrest. After war broke out in Europe, but before the United States joined the Allied cause, the Bureau turned its attention to activities of German and British nationals within our borders.

[noddy]

Imo everything pre-Trump is mostly irrelevant. The faction Trump represents controls the world now and the old ruling faction is still powerful but completely subservient.

Yeh, handed entire country to the robber barron IT globalists who are sitting on the biggest ever deep state data collection in the history of histories.

Even handed over the keys to the social.security database to them.. unelected, to destroy anything that annoyed their plans

Oh well

Its good smashing things, the trick is rebuilding them different, not worse.

Can anyone actually describe the plan for that without bumper sticker gibberish.

I feel sad , not because i give a.shit about the death of our socialist world order, but because the replacement is going to be judge dread dystopia.

[Parodite]

I'm only curious how long this much dreaded global tech big bro will survive.

The Grim Reaper’s Surprise
The Grim Reaper visits an old man.
Old Man: “I knew this day would come.”
Grim Reaper: “Actually, I’m here for your Wi-Fi connection.”
Old Man: “What?”
Grim Reaper: “Yeah, it’s been running smoothly for years. Clearly, it’s next.”

[Doc]

Imo everything pre-Trump is mostly irrelevant. The faction Trump represents controls the world now and the old ruling faction is still powerful but completely subservient.

Yeh, handed entire country to the robber barron IT globalists who are sitting on the biggest ever deep state data collection in the history of histories.

Even handed over the keys to the social.security database to them.. unelected, to destroy anything that annoyed their plans

Oh well

Its good smashing things, the trick is rebuilding them different, not worse.

Can anyone actually describe the plan for that without bumper sticker gibberish.

I feel sad , not because i give a.shit about the death of our socialist world order, but because the replacement is going to be judge dread dystopia.

I am sure many will miss it. But if they miss it so much they should have gotten off their butts and done their part instead of letting the US do all the heavy lifting for them. IF I hear the term "Special relationship" Between the US and UK again I am going to scream in outrage. The UK interfered with at least the 2016 elections in the US. If the UK wants to prove it has a "special relationship" with the US it could start by extraditing Christopher Steele to the US to testify under oath and potentially face criminal charges.

[noddy]

thats a no then.

[noddy]

I'm only curious how long this much dreaded global tech big bro will survive.

The Grim Reaper’s Surprise
The Grim Reaper visits an old man.
Old Man: “I knew this day would come.”
Grim Reaper: “Actually, I’m here for your Wi-Fi connection.”
Old Man: “What?”
Grim Reaper: “Yeah, it’s been running smoothly for years. Clearly, it’s next.”

google, apple and facebook (et all) have been collecting every single aspect of humanity for over a decade now in a way that if the government tried, everyone would be screaming fascist authoritarian nightmare - it was only considered OK because of the popular view that private choices made with private business is all good, its not the government forcing people.

now they are the government.

penny will drop soon. maybe.

kind doubt it .. seems most of the population is powered by the shaudenfraude of the old system getting punished to care what the new system looks lke.

[Nonc Hilaire]

The penny dropped. It is AI.

The questions are:
1) Why free?
2) Why now?
3) When was it first used?

[noddy]

free because more people put more data through it , they would pay for this data, they love getting it "for free"

not sure about the other two - but the timing on the AI investment and AI explosion and the gloves coming off from the techbros on takeover on the roles of government.

suspiciously aligned.