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Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:12 pm
by Heracleum Persicum

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:28 pm
by Endovelico
Another vulnerability created in respect of US dominance. The Empire is doomed to disappear.

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:34 pm
by YMix
The Empire can easily occupy the new canal. Or make the Nicaraguan government deny passage to certain nations.

Also: "Meanwhile, ecologists fear the giant ship canal will endanger Lake Nicaragua - Central America's largest lake and Nicaragua’s largest main water source – which the waterway will run through."

Reeaaally great idea. :roll:

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:12 pm
by Endovelico
YMix wrote:The Empire can easily occupy the new canal. Or make the Nicaraguan government deny passage to certain nations.

Also: "Meanwhile, ecologists fear the giant ship canal will endanger Lake Nicaragua - Central America's largest lake and Nicaragua’s largest main water source – which the waterway will run through."

Reeaaally great idea. :roll:
Interesting how "ecologists" - CIA ecologists? - only seem to be concerned with this lake...

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:02 pm
by Doc
Endovelico wrote:
YMix wrote:The Empire can easily occupy the new canal. Or make the Nicaraguan government deny passage to certain nations.

Also: "Meanwhile, ecologists fear the giant ship canal will endanger Lake Nicaragua - Central America's largest lake and Nicaragua’s largest main water source – which the waterway will run through."

Reeaaally great idea. :roll:
Interesting how "ecologists" - CIA ecologists? - only seem to be concerned with this lake...
Originally the US did not build a canal in Nicaragua because of all the vulcanos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vo ... _Nicaragua
List of volcanoes in Nicaragua

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is a list of active and extinct volcanoes in Nicaragua.

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A map of Nicaragua's volcanoes.
Volcanoes[edit]

Name Elevation Location Last eruption
meters feet Coordinates
Apoyeque 518 1699 12.242°N 86.342°W 2160 BC
Ciguatepe 603 1978 12.53°N 86.142°W Holocene
Cerro Negro 728 2388 12.506°N 86.702°W 1999
Concepción 1700 5577 11.538°N 85.622°W 2009
Cosigüina 872 2861 12.98°N 87.57°W 1859
Estelí 899 2949 13.17°N 86.40°W Holocene
Granada 300 984 11.92°N 85.98°W 10,000 BC
Lajas 926 3038 12.30°N 85.73°W Holocene
Las Pilas 1088 3570 12.495°N 86.688°W 1954
Maderas 1394 4573 11.446°N 85.515°W Holocene
Masaya 635 2083 11.984°N 86.161°W continuing
Mombacho 1344 4409 11.862°N 85.968°W 1570
Momotombo 1297 4255 12.422°N 86.540°W 1905
Nejapa-Miraflores 360 1181 12.12°N 86.32°W Holocene
Rota 832 2730 12.55°N 86.75°W Holocene
San Cristóbal 1745 5725 12.702°N 87.004°W 2012
Telica 1061 3481 12.602°N 86.845°W 2007
Azul 201 659 12.53°N 83.87°W Holocene
Zapatera 629 2064 11.73°N 85.82°W Holocene

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:06 pm
by Heracleum Persicum
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Looks like Chinese are building the Canal

If so,

Am sure, Nicaragua will have some kind of special treaty with China for protection of the Canal

But

IMO

Nicaragua Canal is in benefit of US too, as it gives a 2nd venue in case Panama Canal is, for whatever reason, closed for a period of time

Issues in the future will not be anymore military, but economy

Am sure China and America have discussed this and have found a common ground .. once construction begins, US will announce it's approval, am sure


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Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:08 pm
by Doc
Heracleum Persicum wrote:.

Looks like Chinese are building the Canal

If so,

It is, am sure, Nicaragua will have some kind of special treaty with China for protection of the Canal

But

IMO

Nicaragua Canal is in benefit of US too, as it gives a 2nd venue in case Panama Canal is, for whatever reason, closed for
a period of time

Issues in the future will not be anymore military, but economy

Am sure China and America have discussed this and have found a common ground .. once construction begins, US will
announce it's approval am sure


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The Panama canal is pretty much indefensible. It would only take three guys with the dynamite they could carry on their backs, to put it out of commission for two to three years.

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:22 am
by noddy
Endovelico wrote:
YMix wrote:The Empire can easily occupy the new canal. Or make the Nicaraguan government deny passage to certain nations.

Also: "Meanwhile, ecologists fear the giant ship canal will endanger Lake Nicaragua - Central America's largest lake and Nicaragua’s largest main water source – which the waterway will run through."

Reeaaally great idea. :roll:
Interesting how "ecologists" - CIA ecologists? - only seem to be concerned with this lake...
thats the spirit endo, progress first what what, worried scientists are just spies for the other guy, we will make a good industrialist capitalist out of you yet.

shame they are using the lake, in principle more shipping lanes is good.

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:58 am
by Heracleum Persicum
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Panama Canal is "VITAL" to American security, economic, military etc etc "national interest"

An out of service Panama Canal would be disaster for USA

A "SECOND canal" should be in primary American national interest

In that sense, I do not see any issue or problem Nicaragua building the Canal


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Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:38 am
by noddy
endo is seeing americans under his bed.

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:54 am
by YMix
Endovelico wrote:Interesting how "ecologists" - CIA ecologists? - only seem to be concerned with this lake...
I don't discount the possibility of CIA (or National Endowment for Democracy) funding for these protests, but that doesn't excuse the destruction.

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:33 pm
by Endovelico
noddy wrote:endo is seeing americans under his bed.
The US has in fact controlled the Panama Canal since the beginning, even if that control has not been used so far against any one country. A situation which could change in case of a wider conflict. Being able to disrupt an essential sea lane is strategically important. Two channels would make that a lot more difficult, and thus the Nicaragua Canal goes against US interests.

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:05 pm
by Heracleum Persicum
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Wang Jing .. (secretive) Chinese Billionaire behind the project .. is said, close to Chinese military

Seems he will be in control of the Canal for 50 yrs, with option to extend another 50 yrs

Looks like this (sort of) Chinese government/military project


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Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:49 am
by noddy
interesting.

for the moment i think endo got it right with
even if that control has not been used so far against any one country
but i also observe that its exactly this kind of behaviour from china that you think justifies russia getting all aggresive at america.

nice double standards.

Re: Nicaragua Canal

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:04 am
by Doc
noddy wrote:interesting.

for the moment i think endo got it right with
even if that control has not been used so far against any one country
but i also observe that its exactly this kind of behaviour from china that you think justifies russia getting all aggresive at america.

nice double standards.
I know the US should build a south China Sea canal by treaty with and between the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Taiwan giving it exclusive control for 50 years with an option for another 50 years. :D