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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-17/ ... a/11972092

GM have finally cancelled their Australian division, called Holden - rednecks (locally called bogans) across the country are in mourning.

noddy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:49 am https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-17/ ... a/11972092

GM have finally cancelled their Australian division, called Holden - rednecks (locally called bogans) across the country are in mourning.

The deindustrialization of Australia continues.
Bogans may be in mourning over the end of the Holden Ute, but I would guess that the eco-Luddite chattering classes are pleased.

Colonel Sun wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:09 am

noddy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:49 am https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-17/ ... a/11972092

GM have finally cancelled their Australian division, called Holden - rednecks (locally called bogans) across the country are in mourning.

The deindustrialization of Australia continues.
Bogans may be in mourning over the end of the Holden Ute, but I would guess that the eco-Luddite chattering classes are pleased.

For this specific case, Im also in the camp that is glad to see it go.

they literally just cost us billions of dollars for a few hundred jobs, and the end result is poor quality , overpriced cars that dont sell very well.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-02/ ... es/4604558


When I was in the market for a shopping trolley, I could get a Hyundai for $15k AU drive away, or $25k AU for the equivalent Holden that was a worse car in all ways.

We are a tiny country, the size of a single Asian city, its debatable how much the pride of having a car plant is worth all that tax payer money to build a product noone wants.

The ability to ramp up on a war fitting and build millions of tanks was the previous justification for this - in modern times we might better off ramping up brushless motor supply for the drones.

the CSRIO quietly shifting our civilian energy nuclear program to a more defensive posture would be the more realistic war time response.

noddy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:39 am
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the CSIRO quietly shifting our civilian energy nuclear program to a more defensive posture would be the more realistic war time response.

Given that Australia has some of the largest uranium reserves on the planet, I find it bemusing that Oz does not have a civilian nuclear power program and instead spends money on intermittent and very low energy density foreign made solar panels and wind turbines.

Australia even had a nuclear physics pioneer in the late Mark Oliphant.

Anyways, speaking of the former Holden, came across this bit of retro-futurism.

Colonel Sun wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:17 am
Given that Australia has some of the largest uranium reserves on the planet, I find it bemusing that Oz does not have a civilian nuclear power program and instead spends money on intermittent and very low energy density foreign made solar panels and wind turbines.

Australia even had a nuclear physics pioneer in the late Mark Oliphant.

Australians are a very risk averse people, some of the most sheltered and lacking in spunk on the entire planet.

the only reason we have a reputation is due to 95% of the country being an empty playground for that small percentage of folks who arent like that.

get a comfy corporate or governement job, use rules to keep the rest of the world away from you, take zero risks and wait for house prices to go up so you can retire early.

nuclear power plants destroy house prices, they are not allowed to happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_p ... _Australia

refreseshed my memory of the situation.

business orientated men (right wing voters) are the only clear majority of pro nuclear power, the commercial numbers make sense to them

for the rest, its all safety first attitudes, they would rather everyone lived poorer than take a risk.